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Is this ‘hostile unkind and petty’ I don’t think so !

360 replies

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:13

We have lived next door to our current neighbour for about 6 years, got on ok. No issues. She’s just come out of a very bad relationship (dv) about 8 months ago and ever since has been an absolute nightmare

At first we probably made the mistake of being too available as felt bad for her so when she asked favours we said ok (dropping to school / pick up occasionally, lift to places )

She has had a job at the same place as dp now for the last 3 months, she keeps asking for the same shifts as expects a lift. We’ve had to say no and she’s extremely pissed off and has come round today and told me I’m hostile, unkind and petty that I’m putting obstacles in her way when dp is going there at the same time and it is unfair to make her life more difficult.

I don’t think that having boundaries is hostile unkind and petty???

OP posts:
Mcvitieschoccybiscuit · 18/04/2024 18:06

It’s not just the lifts though is it. OP is helping with childcare and her DH is the taxi service- like she has staff. Shes saving hundreds a month. I imagine OP and her DH have also offered a fair amount of emotional support. It’s all quite invasive. I’d help anyone out but when you feel it’s not appreciated you do start to feel resentful. If she’d said “look I can’t thank you enough for helping me out over the past x months. I’m going to get my own car soon but just need to get myself on my feet first” and offered a little bit of petrol money/ bottle of wine to show some gratitude it might feel different but it seems like it’s expected.

Firefightress1 · 18/04/2024 18:04

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 17:30

It just feels like OP isn't being honest (with us) about her reasons.

And I can just imagine what would be said if it was "I'd like to help out the newly single dad next door by giving him a lift to work, as we work at the same place, but DH doesn't trust me"

She has already said her husband has spoken to his boss to ask not to be on the same shifts....

MaryGreenhill · 18/04/2024 17:58

She is not your responsibility OP let her think what she likes .

TheBitchOfTheVicar · 18/04/2024 17:58

Watchkeys · 18/04/2024 15:23

Lots of people use the journey to spend some time alone/have some headspace before and after work. Nobody is obliged to give anybody a lift.

I wonder if the people who say you're petty would be ok with a neighbour sitting in their living room whilst they're home?

It's not petty to refuse to act as a transport service to someone, especially if they're just assuming you'll do it.

This

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2024 17:52

As someone who had a car share - which included petrol money paid religiously - very successfully for two years, it really does seem petty. Why can’t there be a conversation about continuing with the lift in exchange for petrol money? Changing shifts is an incredibly immature way to deal with it.

takemeawayagain · 18/04/2024 17:46

Having someone reliant on you is just a pain, the odd lift is fine but when they just assume and expect it soon becomes too much. Then you're ill and they start getting angry that you can't take them, or you want to go somewhere else after work and they ask you how they're supposed to get home.
No good deed goes unpunished OP. She's obviously a CF and the #bekind brigade are welcome to drive her around for free themselves if they are so keen.

ShelleyCarpenter · 18/04/2024 17:32

Watchkeys · 18/04/2024 15:23

Lots of people use the journey to spend some time alone/have some headspace before and after work. Nobody is obliged to give anybody a lift.

I wonder if the people who say you're petty would be ok with a neighbour sitting in their living room whilst they're home?

It's not petty to refuse to act as a transport service to someone, especially if they're just assuming you'll do it.

This 100%. It would drive me mad having a neighbour in the car all the time. I like to decompress, listen to music, podcast, audiobook, whatever I want. If I have been in meetings all day I like to drive in silence.

Also, why should the neighbour not pay anything just because the OP’s DH is going there? Why should he have all the expenses, petrol, wear and tear on the car etc

DurhamDurham · 18/04/2024 17:31

It does make a difference to the driver as if the neighbour expects a lift there and back she'll act put out of he wants to go somewhere else after work or needs to call in sick.
Her sense of entitlement would be enough to put me off giving her a lift. Not offering petrol money to share the cost is awful behaviour.

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 17:30

NigelHarmansNewWife · 18/04/2024 17:25

They're a team. Don't know why you're making such a big deal out of a minor detail.

It just feels like OP isn't being honest (with us) about her reasons.

And I can just imagine what would be said if it was "I'd like to help out the newly single dad next door by giving him a lift to work, as we work at the same place, but DH doesn't trust me"

Newbutoldfather · 18/04/2024 17:27

It is one of those tricky ones, as it does seem a bit mean, but I also see where you are coming from.

I think that, as you are going to places at the same time, then you could offer to share her car but I do think that she should pay towards petrol and wear and tear.

You need to have a decent conversation with her and if she says ‘but you are gong there anyway’ then you can reply with ‘so are you, and a contribution is a lot cheaper than getting a car and paying 100% of the petrol’.

If she actually paid, it could be quite a good arrangement for everyone, but she does need to change her attitude.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 18/04/2024 17:25

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 16:51

We still don't know what DH thinks.

If OP doesn't want to do the schoolruns, of course she should say no. If DH doesn't want to do the lifts he should say so.

I don't understand why "we" "had" to put a stop to it. Is suspect he's perfectly happy to do it and that's OP's real problem.

They're a team. Don't know why you're making such a big deal out of a minor detail.

Crumpleton · 18/04/2024 17:21

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:22

Dp mentioned this once and she said ‘but you’re going there anyway it doesn’t use more whether there’s one or two people in the car!’

I like to be behind her at the queue on a bus.

No matter who is helping her, they're offering a way in which she gets to work, although by the sound of it she's more expecting it now, so yes, she should contribute towards costs.

Nonewclothes2024 · 18/04/2024 17:18

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:20

She’s just very intense. I said to her she should get herself a car

Because that is so easy.

SabreIsMyFave · 18/04/2024 17:16

Vegandiva · 18/04/2024 17:01

This isn’t just speaking to each other, it’s spending time alone twice a day in very close proximity with each other

I think that poster posted on the wrong thread. I think she thought she was on the 'Rude or Polite' thread. currently running here on AIBU. I was just looking at it.

ohlookimbackagain · 18/04/2024 17:13

Am I the only person thinking “hell, no my husband isn’t giving a lift to another woman twice a day?”
That’s how affairs start
And they say romance is dead…* *

Danikm151 · 18/04/2024 17:09

Has she never heard of a bus?

what if your hubby has a day off?or has plans after work? What does she do then?

this is just cheeky and guilt tripping you. She’s taking advantage and can’t see that

Stompythedinosaur · 18/04/2024 17:04

It might be petty, but you are allowed to be petty. You aren't obliged to continually put yourself out for other people's benefit.

Anameisaname · 18/04/2024 17:03

In fact a while back there was a thread from a woman who was stuck giving a colleague a lift and everyone piled in saying stop giving lifts !
So YANBU... it's fine to give lifts from time to time but it doesn't need to be a regular thing unless it suits all parties

Vegandiva · 18/04/2024 17:01

Theuglynaillady · 18/04/2024 16:57

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This isn’t just speaking to each other, it’s spending time alone twice a day in very close proximity with each other

YeahComeOnThen · 18/04/2024 16:59

Vegandiva · 18/04/2024 16:55

Am I the only person thinking “hell, no my husband isn’t giving a lift to another woman twice a day?”
That’s how affairs start, and some couples would have rules about not being in cars alone with opposite sex people for that reason. Especially in this situation, this is a set up for classic Knight in Shining Armor scenario (ducks from tomatoes being thrown by the ‘don’t be ridiculous, men and women can be friends’ brigade) 😁

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@Vegandiva

youre probably not the only one, but I'm not thinking that.

if he wants to have sex with the neighbour then he will, driving her to work is more likely to put him off 🤣🤣

IncompleteSenten · 18/04/2024 16:59

Petty as fuck and bloody well deserved!

In fact, you should list all the things you've been doing for her and ask her to list what she does for you then ask her why she thinks it's ok to take take take but never give.

Theuglynaillady · 18/04/2024 16:57

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YeahComeOnThen · 18/04/2024 16:56

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:40

she keeps changing shifts to be on the same ones as dp he’s going to speak to his manager to see if they can have different ones

@Justablueone

but why? That IS really petty & horrible.

just doing it for the sake of it.

she is right it doesn't cost him more if she goes with him & now a single mum. But if he really wants to charge her then he needs to tell her not ask her & if she counters it just say it's £xx per week, up front, take it or leave it.

dont forget her kids have been through a lot too. Is it really that much trouble to bring them home with you?

6 months on from DV isn't that long.

still if she nasty & unappreciative it's your choice to say no,

Vegandiva · 18/04/2024 16:55

Am I the only person thinking “hell, no my husband isn’t giving a lift to another woman twice a day?”
That’s how affairs start, and some couples would have rules about not being in cars alone with opposite sex people for that reason. Especially in this situation, this is a set up for classic Knight in Shining Armor scenario (ducks from tomatoes being thrown by the ‘don’t be ridiculous, men and women can be friends’ brigade) 😁

SabreIsMyFave · 18/04/2024 16:54

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 16:51

We still don't know what DH thinks.

If OP doesn't want to do the schoolruns, of course she should say no. If DH doesn't want to do the lifts he should say so.

I don't understand why "we" "had" to put a stop to it. Is suspect he's perfectly happy to do it and that's OP's real problem.

Well if the OP wants to stop giving lifts to this cheeky freeloader, then she is entitled to stop it.

Me and DH are a couple, married, a partnership. If one of us was very unhappy with something, the other would respect their wishes, and stop.

So as far as I'm concerned, the OP wants this to stop, so it stops.