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Is this ‘hostile unkind and petty’ I don’t think so !

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Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:13

We have lived next door to our current neighbour for about 6 years, got on ok. No issues. She’s just come out of a very bad relationship (dv) about 8 months ago and ever since has been an absolute nightmare

At first we probably made the mistake of being too available as felt bad for her so when she asked favours we said ok (dropping to school / pick up occasionally, lift to places )

She has had a job at the same place as dp now for the last 3 months, she keeps asking for the same shifts as expects a lift. We’ve had to say no and she’s extremely pissed off and has come round today and told me I’m hostile, unkind and petty that I’m putting obstacles in her way when dp is going there at the same time and it is unfair to make her life more difficult.

I don’t think that having boundaries is hostile unkind and petty???

OP posts:
HappyEater · 18/04/2024 19:04

ThisIsMyRubbishUsername · 18/04/2024 18:57

She sounds quite intense and it must feel like she is taking over your life - you live next to her, take her DC to school, DH giving lifts. You must feel like you can’t escape from her. Whilst is very nice of you that you have helped so much, she isn’t your responsibility. It sounds like instead of her showing gratitude, she’s developed an entitled attitude with you. It’s like you have given her an inch and she’s taken a mile. I don’t see an easy way for you to reduce it now, as technically she is right, you are going to the same place anyway. Did she get the job purposely because your DH works there? To be honest I’d be a bit worried that she’s not trying to be a cuckoo in the nest and push you out, especially seen as her own relationship has ended.

I had a friend who finally left her DH due to DV… I could have written all of the above.

I had to go NC in the end. She had picked up so much drama (trauma?) and manipulative behaviour which was impossible to be around.

Prydddan · 18/04/2024 19:00

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:22

Dp mentioned this once and she said ‘but you’re going there anyway it doesn’t use more whether there’s one or two people in the car!’

Entitled, entitled, entitled.

You're right to put up boundaries.

Prydddan · 18/04/2024 18:58

Catza · 18/04/2024 15:17

And this is indeed a petty reason not to give a lift to her.

It is a valid reason to refuse a favour, if the person asking has an.entitled attitude. To ignore the attitude is to set yourself up for further CF-ery.

ThisIsMyRubbishUsername · 18/04/2024 18:57

She sounds quite intense and it must feel like she is taking over your life - you live next to her, take her DC to school, DH giving lifts. You must feel like you can’t escape from her. Whilst is very nice of you that you have helped so much, she isn’t your responsibility. It sounds like instead of her showing gratitude, she’s developed an entitled attitude with you. It’s like you have given her an inch and she’s taken a mile. I don’t see an easy way for you to reduce it now, as technically she is right, you are going to the same place anyway. Did she get the job purposely because your DH works there? To be honest I’d be a bit worried that she’s not trying to be a cuckoo in the nest and push you out, especially seen as her own relationship has ended.

Bloom15 · 18/04/2024 18:55

Picklewicklepickle · 18/04/2024 16:14

Lol at all the posters who would happily commit to giving their neighbour a lift to and from work every day and take their kids to and from school every day with no complaints, of course you fucking would.

In the real world she does need to make long term plan so I think it’s fine to start reducing your help, have you asked her what her solution is? If she was rude then I would stop straight away.

Well no I wouldn't do the school run as wfh and need to be quick but if I was driving to the same place I wouldn't mind giving a lift. I'm quite chatty and sociable though - which seems to be rare on Mumsnet

Everythinggreen · 18/04/2024 18:53

I thought it was a bit mean until I read the petrol comment and now I think nah, that's CF territory.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/04/2024 18:49

Does she think calling you hostile will help her cause?

It's a fair question, and her attitude shows so much

You'd hope that someone who's received months of favours would be at least be appreciative and maybe use the time to sort out her own arrangements, but no - thwarted of what she was hoping for she becomes rude instead

Maybe she'll learn this isn't the way to behave or maybe she won't, but anyway it's not OP's problem

PixieLaLar · 18/04/2024 18:49

It sounds like you have been very kind but unfortunately she is taking the piss now.

You don’t need to explain yourself for why you don’t want to give someone a lift, I totally get it and her attitude stinks.

It might be harsh but I wonder if the best thing to do would be to let her know you won’t be able to provide any lifts from now on. She sounds like the sort where if you come to a ‘compromise’ it won’t be good enough and she will keep pushing for more.

NotTerfNorCis · 18/04/2024 18:47

Catza · 18/04/2024 15:17

And this is indeed a petty reason not to give a lift to her.

It really isn't. Waiting around for someone, or not staying a bit later at work because they're waiting... she shouldn't feel entitled to that.

Bloom15 · 18/04/2024 18:46

Watchkeys · 18/04/2024 15:26

@Fancybed

But it makes no difference anyone

That's not for you to say. It wouldn't make a practical difference to you if your neighbours decided to spend all summer intently looking over their garden fence at you. So you'd be ok with that, right?

That's not the same though is it?

I don't see the issue with the lift - although her attitude about not needing to pay anything is annoying

BananaLambo · 18/04/2024 18:41

She’s a cheeky fucker. The odd lift in an emergency, fair enough, but being stuck in a car for 45 minutes twice a day (I don’t know how long he has to spend with her but regardless, it’s not going to be a laugh riot for him) with bitchy Deirdre from next door would be my idea of absolute hell.

Cherrysoup · 18/04/2024 18:31

So when she has to pay for her luggage weighing too much on a flight, does she not think it’s because extra weight=more fuel consumed? Duh!

Your dp is right to want to change shifts, good way of escaping and you should definitely be refusing to pick up the kids, too. As a pp said, you’re currently acting as her staff! I’d be telling her you aren’t staff and she needs to stop asking for favours cos she’s taken the piss and therefore you’re stopping everything. She’s having a laugh!

BagOfBollocks · 18/04/2024 18:30

She's asked your DP for a lift, yet you've said we've had to say no?

Please don't tell me you're one of these women who feels threatened by single women...afraid they're going to jump on your man? 🙄

Boatromance · 18/04/2024 18:30

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 15:20

But it makes no difference anyone? It might even help because they can share costs.

It can make a difference

neighbour wanted a lift to a place about 30 mins away (near where I work).

but it got more and more frequent.

I'm busy, my commute is my only ‘downtime’. Having someone with very different religious views, political views etc constantly chatting away in the car in the one time I get to be quiet/ think/ listen to a podcast.

yes it’s nice to be nice. But if it doesn’t work for you then you don’t need to be a doormat.

Epidote · 18/04/2024 18:28

Honestly if someone tells me I'm being petty and hostile because I don't want the carry on doing the same favour over and over, that will be the last straw to tell her no more favours.

I'm annoyed by the fact that the person you have been doing favours had the face to insult you. That is top level of entitlement.

snackatack · 18/04/2024 18:27

Justablueone · 18/04/2024 15:22

Dp mentioned this once and she said ‘but you’re going there anyway it doesn’t use more whether there’s one or two people in the car!’

She is taking the mic .. she can pay her way - its saving her loads of money - not only cost of petrol - but tax, vehicle wear and tear..

DreamTheMoors · 18/04/2024 18:25

Sometimes people don’t want to hear anything but “yes.”
They get offended when your “no” alters their plans.
But it isn’t your responsibility to complicate your life to make somebody else’s life run smoothly.
Just say no and remember - don’t apologise.

WhoIsnt · 18/04/2024 18:22

Oh god I'd absolutely HATE having to commute with someone else - I'd make up a really long-winded excuse and probably drive a longer way round just to avoid it. Totally reasonable if the DH doesn't want to do this.

To the poster that said it's quiet time to decompress and sort your head - 100%.

Dibbydoos · 18/04/2024 18:19

Dacadactyl · 18/04/2024 15:14

What's the issue with giving her a lift though?

I'd do a favour for a neighbour if I was going their way tbh.

Nit day in day out you wouldn't! The ofd lift, fine, but every day, twice a day... no way

YANBU

azlazee1 · 18/04/2024 18:16

Personally I wouldn't want to Have to drive anyone every day unless I was driving a close friend. I would feel imposed upon.

zeibesaffron · 18/04/2024 18:09

My DD friend does this to us every day lift to school or pick - sometimes its not convenient. If I am going to see fil straight after school or I want to go shopping!! It really pisses me off especially as I can see her Dad and his fleet of cars are home when I drop her!!!

I wouldn’t want to do everyday with someone in my car either - you are not obligated too so perhaps say we can help on mon and tues on other days we now have other things to do!

RawBloomers · 18/04/2024 18:08

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2024 17:52

As someone who had a car share - which included petrol money paid religiously - very successfully for two years, it really does seem petty. Why can’t there be a conversation about continuing with the lift in exchange for petrol money? Changing shifts is an incredibly immature way to deal with it.

There could be a conversation about sharing costs. But the DH has already tried that and been knocked back. Why should he have to try and negotiate with someone who is trying to take advantage, especially when it’s about something he doesn’t want to do in the first place?

I don’t think changing shifts is incredibly immature, but it would be better if the DH just told the neighbour she’d treated him too poorly for the lifts to continue.

HappyEater · 18/04/2024 18:07

No, I’m with you Op, she’s a CF.

I use commuting time to listen to music, de-stress, call friends and family.

No chance I’d want someone sitting next to me long-term who seemed to have non intention of sorting themselves out.

And these people are never ones to give favours back (not that I want them, rather just sort myself out)

And does she think calling you hostile will help her cause? Sounds like a dramatic pain in the ass

Firefightress1 · 18/04/2024 18:07

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2024 17:52

As someone who had a car share - which included petrol money paid religiously - very successfully for two years, it really does seem petty. Why can’t there be a conversation about continuing with the lift in exchange for petrol money? Changing shifts is an incredibly immature way to deal with it.

I'm glad yours was successful, mine was hellish! I'd never do it again and it's their choice. The difference is this wasn't a mutual agreement between 2 workmates it's an assumption and expectation. Very different

ilovesushi · 18/04/2024 18:06

Just because you are going the same way does not mean you need to lift share. I occasionally give a colleague a lift because she is lovely and great company but she is never pushy about it, never assumes and would be 100% fine if I said no and would not need reasons.