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To be losing attraction to DP because of his career?

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breezea · 18/04/2024 14:18

I expect to be told I’m a nasty son so for this.

But AIBU to think I might be losing attraction to DP slightly because of his career?

We are both late 20s. Met at uni where we were both doing PhDs. Been together four years and lived together for three. He is a wonderful guy and although we had pretty serious issues early on, for the past two years it’s been great. We have our own niggles but don’t we all?

I will preface by saying that I am very money driven. I grew up poor in an immigrant family and so for me, wealth is very important. I am very ambitious and as such I have what many would consider a high flying career.

When I met dp, he had similar ambitions. He wanted to go into a niche role which is very coveted and extremely well paid. He’s applied numerous times for these jobs but never gets one. This is down to him being potentially naive and over confident in his abilities. He doesn’t have the skill set required despite being very bright.

He has now found himself feeling defeated and heading down a career path doing something he doesn’t want to do. He has decent hours and the pay is good but not maybe 1/5th of what I thought he would be earning.

So now we are at a point where I significantly out earn him. To buy a good flat in a desirable bit of London (central) you need two excellent salaries not one. So I feel that I won’t achieve what I work so hard to get. He has started joking that it’s fine that he can be a stay at home dad or I can look after him, but even when he does have free time, I end up cooking and cleaning for him. I do all of his laundry for example.

OP posts:
NewFriendlyLadybird · 18/04/2024 19:13

Reasonable’s got nothing to do with it. If you’re no longer feeling it, time for you to split up, for both your sakes.

He may not find your materialism that attractive either.

ConcernedOfClapham · 18/04/2024 19:13

Yes, I think you should move on. he deserves somebody who values him for himself, not his earning power.

RollyPol · 18/04/2024 19:12

Not a problem if a woman earns more in a relationship. No guarantee if you dump this one you will find a better one.

DodoTired · 18/04/2024 19:11

You are going to get a pile on because your disagreement is seemingly about money and it is frowned upon. However it is actually about values and being on the same page re key issues like career and finances.

I would not be attracted to a coaster/stay at home dad if I had to be the one doing killer hours in the office and have other stresses of high flying career. (Im a high earner as well and poor from immigrant family so I understand where you are coming from)

HOWEVER, having two people who both have high flying careers AND are compatible in other ways is actually pretty rare (just because there are less high earners and high flyers so the pool is smaller). Having a nice family with two high earners who can afford to buy a flat in central London NOW (from zero, not family money) is almost impossible. You both have to be earning well above £150K EACH

so you are not unreasonable that you don’t like his defeatist/coasting attitudes. This is certainly unattractive

but you are a bit unreasonable to expect a partner who can earn that much so that you can afford central London flat Equally you are unreasonable if you expect to break up with this one and find a new partner who will be just as nice but simply a super high earner

i think you need to make peace that you will most likely outearn your partner but you need to draw the line for yourself by
how much

greengreyblue · 18/04/2024 19:09

You don’t love him. You have different life goals and priorities. Time to move on .

neverbeenskiing · 18/04/2024 19:07

Cherie7 · 18/04/2024 19:04

I’m genuinely glad you found someone who didn’t cringe from ear to ear when you spoke about yourself like this. 😂 It’s great to see such self assurance though!

She sounds like she's auditioning for The Apprentice 😆

Epidote · 18/04/2024 19:04

The fact that he doesn't do anything at home will be putting me off more than his earnings.

Cherie7 · 18/04/2024 19:04

Anothercr · 18/04/2024 15:02

I’m with you on this. I am a winner, I dated winners and I married a winner. I love him very much and we’re well suited. However, on a fundamental level, we are clever, well educated, attractive people who earn a lot of money. This may not matter to some people, but I would not be attracted to someone who was not all of those things. Go find your winner.

Posters will be along to moan about shallowness and how kindness is more important than success. Please ignore them. You can be kind/funny/sweet/(insert positive characteristic) AND successful. Wanting the latter does not mean you don’t also care about the former. They know this, but admitting it doesn’t suit their narrative.

Also, you’re not a skivvy. In your next relationship, please ensure domestic labour is equitably shared.

I’m genuinely glad you found someone who didn’t cringe from ear to ear when you spoke about yourself like this. 😂 It’s great to see such self assurance though!

oakleaffy · 18/04/2024 19:03

''Frankly, I am impressed that you are open to being self-aware with it.''

@Sweden99
Female gold diggers are very well aware of their desire for money.

There are lots of women who rely on men who give them a financial leg up, and they actually seek it.

They {usually} trade their youth and attractiveness for money.

The other way round, Wealthy women, and are less hung up with a man's looks, it's more his character that is important to them - But even so, some refuse to marry for fear of losing assets in a divorce.

theduchessofspork · 18/04/2024 19:01

It’s better to know what you want in life, he’s not for you so move on.

Also - if you plan to have kids and a career then the most important thing is to find an equal partner, so anyone who doesn’t do half the cleaning, laundry and cooking is a no. (Catch yourself on, why would you do a grown man’s laundry?)

gamerchick · 18/04/2024 19:00

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 18/04/2024 16:54

What a surprise - a one-post wonder.

I wonder if she asked to swap “For better, for worse” with “For better - or else!” in her wedding vows?

Properly shocked there like.

Tbf I really enjoyed the post with the huge ego all over it. Made me really laugh Grin

MuggedByReality · 18/04/2024 19:00

I would end the relationship, OP, and let the poor chap find someone less greedy, less materialistic & less shallow who loves him for who he is.

BigButtons · 18/04/2024 18:57

You sound like
an awful woman. The poor man seethes to find someone who actually loves him.

0rangesandstrawberries · 18/04/2024 18:55

God you sound horrible

oakleaffy · 18/04/2024 18:55

You should both go your separate ways.

Money drives some people, but not others.

Money doesn't necessarily bring contentment or happiness, just others sets of problems.

It's very shallow to be driven by money, but some people are.

Don't get married to this chap, { But I expect if a wealthier man comes along, you'll marry him like a shot for his money alone.}

Motnight · 18/04/2024 18:54

Anothercr · 18/04/2024 15:02

I’m with you on this. I am a winner, I dated winners and I married a winner. I love him very much and we’re well suited. However, on a fundamental level, we are clever, well educated, attractive people who earn a lot of money. This may not matter to some people, but I would not be attracted to someone who was not all of those things. Go find your winner.

Posters will be along to moan about shallowness and how kindness is more important than success. Please ignore them. You can be kind/funny/sweet/(insert positive characteristic) AND successful. Wanting the latter does not mean you don’t also care about the former. They know this, but admitting it doesn’t suit their narrative.

Also, you’re not a skivvy. In your next relationship, please ensure domestic labour is equitably shared.

Go you!

EveryOtherNameTaken · 18/04/2024 18:51

Catza · 18/04/2024 14:32

Your whole tone is quite patronising and infantilising towards your partner. I think you would do him a favour if you move one.
Agree with the previous poster, it is entirely your own failing that you don't earn enough money to afford the lifestyle that you, and you alone, envisioned. Your partner has no obligation to co-finance your aspirations.

Totally this.

neverbeenskiing · 18/04/2024 18:51

The lack of drive and ambition and the laziness is VERY unattractive

I don't think the OP says that he is lazy or lacking in ambition does she? She actually admits he has a decent job that pays well, just not enough to get her what she wants.

Not earning a shed-load doesn't mean you're lazy. Some people choose careers based on job satisfaction or a desire to do something socially useful. Their ambition might be to serve their community, to achieve a certain level of expertise in their chosen field, to develop others or to achieve a healthy work/life balance. People are allowed to have ambitions beyond the acquisition of material wealth.

Some of the most ambitious, determined and hard-working people I know are working in the public or charity sector, driving change and making a difference. You and OP might find their lack of material wealth "VERY unattractive", but they would probably find your lack of depth and superficiality unattractive so that's fair enough I suppose.

He should be doing his own laundry though, that's just taking the piss.

Stompythedinosaur · 18/04/2024 18:48

Well, I think it's totally reasonable to end a relationship for whatever reason you want.

But, if your love was dependent on his career, then it wasn't really love imo.

Cherie7 · 18/04/2024 18:48

BonzoGates · 18/04/2024 14:26

To be honest I think you should free the poor lad from your clutches.

Agree with this. Sorry. But do stop doing everything for him - not so much a poor lad there.

Frazzledmummy123 · 18/04/2024 18:47

Sparklfairy · 18/04/2024 14:26

He has decent hours and the pay is good but not maybe 1/5th of what I thought he would be earning.

It's interesting you say what 'I' thought he would be earning. You weren't kidding when you say you value money highly.

You also have a hint of disdain when you describe him - talking about him being naive and overconfident and that he doesn't have the right skill set... Nothing to do with the fact that presumably it's also quite a competitive field if the pay is so good?

Look, you clearly have different values. It sounds like his confidence has been knocked quite a bit. He reminds me of my brother, who was utterly convinced he would walk out of uni and straight into a six figure job. Let's just say reality bites on that one.

You shouldn't be doing his laundry, cooking or cleaning for him though. Perhaps the relationship has just run its course and your lives are going in different directions.

Sparklfairy has nailed it.

Bloom15 · 18/04/2024 18:22

Dartmoorcheffy · 18/04/2024 14:40

I don't find materialistic people at all attractive. Other than his earning potential, what other things attracted you to him?

Being wealthy really isn't the most important thing in life. Being healthy, happy and having a home (not necessarily a show house) are far more valuable to me.

Completely agree with this - it would put me off someone

NoWayRose · 18/04/2024 18:21

The only issue is that I think more blokes than women are willing to date ‘down’ to a lower earner, leaving a smaller pool of these high earning blokes to choose from.

That said of course you shouldn’t be with someone you don’t fancy. Money aside, this should be the honeymoon period but it all sounds a bit lacklustre. You’re talking about working through problems and doing his housework in the manner a couple who don’t want to split up because of the kids. You’re not feeling it so move on.

bonzaitree · 18/04/2024 18:08

Call it a day.

You thought you were on the same path early 20s. Turns out that you don’t have the same vision for your shared life some years on.

Tale as old as time I’m afraid.

GonzoGonzo · 18/04/2024 18:07

As others have said, if you can't see a way forward then move on.

You may want to have a think... If you are going to find a highly paid, motivated, cooking, cleaning, lover when you put your dating CV out there ...