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Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 12:08

I told him no

context is
a man approach me at the bus stop and said excuse me and I said no right away. He then came back and said you could of said I’m not interested.

no meant I wasn’t interested
no meant no

I stand by my no, but some friends/colleagues said I was rude and I don’t think I was.

ive said not interested in the past and got abused verbally.

I normally have my headphones in but I forgot them this morning

OP posts:
Persephonegoddess · 18/04/2024 18:43

Clearly by his response, he was creeping or flirting so 'No' is a perfectly reasonable way to shut down unwanted attention. It was not rude.'

YourFogLightsAreOnTheresNoFog · 18/04/2024 18:43

PrestonHood121 · 18/04/2024 18:41

Nobody would have blinked if a man had acted like this. You weren't rude - you don't owe anybody a response if you don't feel like it. If you had said "not interested" people would have still found a way to call you rude.

Of course they would. You are just making things up. If a man said no to excuse me I would have said he was rude.

inthekyoo · 18/04/2024 18:42

Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 13:17

What part he said you could said I'm not interested didn’t you understand in my first post

Edited

I had to read your sentences several times, but still confused. What are you on about? Please check your writing. As it is now at least you don’t have to worry about a man picking you for your intelligence.

5128gap · 18/04/2024 18:42

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 17:56

You know, I've been thinking about your (utterly ridiculous) response all afternoon.

It looks to me as if you're saying that another woman can't disagree with you on an issue of womens' rights (if this is loosely what this would fall under), and if they do dare to disagree, they must be accused of being a man, or an incel.

That's not very feminist of you, is it? A woman not allowed to hold a different opinion?

I, as a woman, disagree with you about something another woman did, as do most people on the thread. I think the OP was rude. Again, so do most of the respondents. Are you saying that we should not, and because we are also women we must agree with you?

Of course, women can disagree with each other, and of course feminists can disagree with each other. But what feminists do all tend to agree on is putting the needs of women (not men) front and centre. (If they don't agree with that, then they are not feminists by definition, because that's what the movement is for.)
Given that, feminists cannot possibly support every view expressed by a woman just because they're a woman, because sometimes women say things that are against feminist principles. You, for example state you are a woman, yet have on this thread across various posts, called another woman thick, criticised her SPAG in an attempt to humiliate her, likened her to Vicky Pollard and responded LOL to another poster who suggested she was mistaken for a sex worker. You, while claiming to be a woman, did all of these things, for no other reason than to defend a man you have never met who the OP said no to. In your passion to defend this man you have bullied and shamed another woman, behaviour no feminist would indulge in. And it is that nit any disagreement about whether OP was rude, that has led some of us to doubt you are a woman at all. Because I for one am struggling to see why someone with no skin in the game would have such an extreme emotional and vitriolic response to this.

PrestonHood121 · 18/04/2024 18:41

Nobody would have blinked if a man had acted like this. You weren't rude - you don't owe anybody a response if you don't feel like it. If you had said "not interested" people would have still found a way to call you rude.

YourFogLightsAreOnTheresNoFog · 18/04/2024 18:40

SerafinasGoose · 18/04/2024 18:37

Well, quite.

I think that in a roundabout way, that was the point I was making. As well as the point I made in another post about social conditioning.

'Rude' and 'selfish' are both censorious accusations carrying certain social connotations when it comes to women in particular. And all of them have very black and white implications as to what it says about someone's character. (Cf. the responses to OP upthread). There'll undeniably be exceptions to the rule, but I doubt many people are rude all the time, or go about deliberately getting their jollies by being as rude as they can to as many people as they can.

If I'm inadvertently or unconsciously rude and that fact is pointed out to me, I'll apologise. As far as Random Man or chugger approaches are concerned, I'm unashamedly and knowingly rude - I won't even acknowledge them in some situations - and make no apologies for it.

I'm with the PP upthread who can't figure out why on earth someone would ask for endorsement or otherwise from online strangers about their manners. We are sentient adults, FGS. Not least, these threads never end well. But it's an interesting insight into how women often view, censor and police other women's behaviour.

When it boils down to it, who does this benefit - really?

IMO a lot of the PPs upthread could really do to have a read of Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear.

Edited

OP asked, posters answered.

I thought she was rude.

daisychain01 · 18/04/2024 18:40

YourFogLightsAreOnTheresNoFog · 18/04/2024 18:35

OP wanted a man bashing thread.

Yup, so all the man haters can come out and be cheer leaders to this tripe.

it is really pathetic.

kindlyensure · 18/04/2024 18:40

To be fair to the OP - it was the bloke who said 'could of'. She was just reporting back.... right, OP 😉?

"You could of said I'm not interested"

That alone is probably enough to justify the OP's response, tbh

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 18:39

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 17:56

You know, I've been thinking about your (utterly ridiculous) response all afternoon.

It looks to me as if you're saying that another woman can't disagree with you on an issue of womens' rights (if this is loosely what this would fall under), and if they do dare to disagree, they must be accused of being a man, or an incel.

That's not very feminist of you, is it? A woman not allowed to hold a different opinion?

I, as a woman, disagree with you about something another woman did, as do most people on the thread. I think the OP was rude. Again, so do most of the respondents. Are you saying that we should not, and because we are also women we must agree with you?

It’s feeling the need to comment 18 times, starting with OP being arrogant, thinking she’s “all that”, and she can’t be that special because she takes the bus. It’s saying poor man over and over and repeatedly referring to female this and female that, without saying male once. It’s hoping her dress was tucked into her knickers. It’s saying you “can’t bear” women who xyz. Talking about a woman being unintelligent, unobservant, arrogant, ridiculous, thick, man-hating feminists, having agendas, being batshit crazy. Loving a comment suggesting OP was assumed to be a prostitute.

I have no issue with women disagreeing with my point of view and that’s “clearly” a ridiculous assumption, as you would say. Even if OP was rude, I don’t understand why her not speaking to this “poor bloke” would fill you with such hateful burning outrage.

Icantbedoingwithit · 18/04/2024 18:38

Anotherparkingthread · 18/04/2024 18:22

I don't think op was rude. I'd have replied the same way.

I honestly don't care if a stranger is having a heart attack, lost his dog or wants my phone number the answer is the same. Why would I hear somebody out they have nothing I want and or I'm willing to give. Waste of both of our times.

Politeness can get you killed. There's nothing wrong with saying 'no' and the sooner everybody accepts that the safer the world becomes for women.

That’s just very sad. I literally cannot imagine going through life with an attitude like that. If one of your loved ones was having a heart attack in the street you wouldn’t expect anyone to help him because they are female? Nuts.

tiredandabitfat · 18/04/2024 18:38

Bloody hell @Dullardmullard

Get your head out your arse and listen to what people are saying.

It's YOU who isn't comprehending.

At the point he said "excuse me" you DID NOT know that that he was trying to hit on you.

As you keep saying, he came back and said you could have just said that you weren't interested.

You didn't know that at the time.

You were saying "no" to any sort of interaction with him.

As one human being to another, that is really fucking rude, and the fact you can't see that speaks volumes.

SerafinasGoose · 18/04/2024 18:37

WoolySnail · 18/04/2024 18:15

But she doesn't think she was rude and own it. She didn’t think she was rude, asked people at work who told her she was, then came on here to be told by several others that she WAS rude and has continued to argue she wasn't.

Well, quite.

I think that in a roundabout way, that was the point I was making. As well as the point I made in another post about social conditioning.

'Rude' and 'selfish' are both censorious accusations carrying certain social connotations when it comes to women in particular. And all of them have very black and white implications as to what it says about someone's character. (Cf. the responses to OP upthread). There'll undeniably be exceptions to the rule, but I doubt many people are rude all the time, or go about deliberately getting their jollies by being as rude as they can to as many people as they can.

If I'm inadvertently or unconsciously rude and that fact is pointed out to me, I'll apologise. As far as Random Man or chugger approaches are concerned, I'm unashamedly and knowingly rude - I won't even acknowledge them in some situations - and make no apologies for it.

I'm with the PP upthread who can't figure out why on earth someone would ask for endorsement or otherwise from online strangers about their manners. We are sentient adults, FGS. Not least, these threads never end well. But it's an interesting insight into how women often view, censor and police other women's behaviour.

When it boils down to it, who does this benefit - really?

IMO a lot of the PPs upthread could really do to have a read of Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear.

PoppyCherryDog · 18/04/2024 18:37

I think you were rude. And you’re demonstrating your rudeness on this thread too.

inthekyoo · 18/04/2024 18:37

FrangipaniBlue · 18/04/2024 18:31

You think you have nothing to give when someone is having a heart attack???

This. How utterly stupid and selfish can a human person become. Rock bottom.

BrieHugger · 18/04/2024 18:37

Anotherparkingthread · 18/04/2024 18:22

I don't think op was rude. I'd have replied the same way.

I honestly don't care if a stranger is having a heart attack, lost his dog or wants my phone number the answer is the same. Why would I hear somebody out they have nothing I want and or I'm willing to give. Waste of both of our times.

Politeness can get you killed. There's nothing wrong with saying 'no' and the sooner everybody accepts that the safer the world becomes for women.

I genuinely feel sad for you, what a way to see life. It is not normal to feel like that and I hope you’re ok.

PoppyCherryDog · 18/04/2024 18:37

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 13:20

Maybe you could have written it a bit more eloquently if you want people to "understand"?

😂

ManchesterBeatrice · 18/04/2024 18:36

Whether you WERE rude or not, there's no doubt in my mind from this thread that you ARE rude.

inthekyoo · 18/04/2024 18:35

oakleaffy · 18/04/2024 18:29

“Could of” is a very basic error that does grate.

Like when people say “ I gave him free reign”

It does cause people to inwardly wince.😬

English is not even my second or third language, but ”could of” does make me judge a person strongly. 😂 Sorry. It’s just awful.

If I, as a foreigner, had to learn your language at school - surely you had to learn basic grammatics yourselves?

YourFogLightsAreOnTheresNoFog · 18/04/2024 18:35

QuackaRoo · 18/04/2024 18:34

It was rude, obviously...

What possessed you to write such a weird f*cking post 😂

OP wanted a man bashing thread.

phoenixrosehere · 18/04/2024 18:34

Londonrach1 · 18/04/2024 18:30

Very rude. What if you were standing in his foot or he needed to slip past you. Listen first to what he politely asked about

Think she would notice if she was standing on his foot at a bus stop where he approached her.

QuackaRoo · 18/04/2024 18:34

It was rude, obviously...

What possessed you to write such a weird f*cking post 😂

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 18/04/2024 18:34

FrangipaniBlue · 18/04/2024 18:31

You think you have nothing to give when someone is having a heart attack???

This
😥
I'm so fucking glad not everyone's like that poster when a very close family member collapsed whilst out with his heart a while back.
These threads just makes you despair for the human race, when in reality people are usually lovely.

Icantbedoingwithit · 18/04/2024 18:32

Batshit! If you were a bar of chocolate you’d eat yourself. 😂

jeaux90 · 18/04/2024 18:31

I'm with the OP. No doesn't have to be handed out with kindness. She doesn't owe men her attention.

Karmaisagod · 18/04/2024 18:31

When you said "no", you had no idea what he wanted. That is what is rude, to not give another human being the courtesy of listening to them for a few seconds before dismissing them. What he said afterwards does not matter on bit. It is not a hard thing to grasp. However, judging by how charmingly you come across on your posts, I'd say the bloke had a lucky escape, anyway.

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