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Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 12:08

I told him no

context is
a man approach me at the bus stop and said excuse me and I said no right away. He then came back and said you could of said I’m not interested.

no meant I wasn’t interested
no meant no

I stand by my no, but some friends/colleagues said I was rude and I don’t think I was.

ive said not interested in the past and got abused verbally.

I normally have my headphones in but I forgot them this morning

OP posts:
Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:52

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:48

But she was right, the man turned out to be a creep trying to chat her up.

Were you there? He might have been trying to sell her something

you could of said you were not interested
he was offended I wasn’t interested.

In what? Why are you and the OP assuming he just wanted to chat her up. There is nothing in any of the OP's posts that suggest he was coming on to her.

He might have been trying to sell her something

Selling her what a bus stop? Drugs? Even more reason for OP not to engage.

There is nothing in any of the OP's posts that suggest he was coming on to her.

🤣 Seriously? His response is classic for a rejected man. ‘You could have just said you weren’t interested’, ‘I just wanted to get to know you’, ‘You could have been nice about it’. It’s all bullshit from men who think they’re owed a particular response from a woman they’e chatting up.

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:48

But she was right, the man turned out to be a creep trying to chat her up.

Were you there? He might have been trying to sell her something

you could of said you were not interested
he was offended I wasn’t interested.

In what? Why are you and the OP assuming he just wanted to chat her up. There is nothing in any of the OP's posts that suggest he was coming on to her.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:47

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:43

@Akamai you are determined to insist that women who disagree with you in this thread and others are misogynistic Stepford wives.

You have failed to answer the question as to why the two simple words "excuse me" merits a rude "no" in response.

None of us know why he said that. His response to the "no" might not have meant the OP wasn't interested in him, but to something else. There is a lot of projection on this thread.

So, I ask you again - why is "no" the correct response to "excuse me"?

You have failed to answer the question as to why the two simple words "excuse me" merits a rude "no" in response.

Who asked me that? No one has.

So, I ask you again - why is "no" the correct response to "excuse me"?

It’s not just ‘excuse me’, OP would have had the benefit of observing his behaviour. Maybe he was staring at her. Maybe he was staring at other women. She would also have seen how he approached her, and how he said it. Women can tell creeps!

And no one is owed a response. Even if he wanted to know when the next bus is due, she is not obliged to engage with him.

MyBigBounty · 19/04/2024 07:46

Misogyny has become like tap water. Op was rude and this was not a normal interaction.

Not one single person said 'don't reject a man'.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:43

AE9766 · 19/04/2024 07:36

Certainly. For starters: rudely responding "no" to someone who had only said "excuse me", purely because he was a man. Being rude to and insulting every other woman who disagreed with her actions on this thread. Employing the "AIBU/everyone says yes/no I'm not you're all just dense" method of communication. All twattish behaviours.

I also didn't call her a raging twat. I said "sometimes the woman is just coming across as a raging twat", and she really has here. It's not misogyny to point out that sometimes that's the case, and it's not a requirement of "the sisterhood" to defend another woman who's behaved like an arsehole purely because she also has a vagina.

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But she was right, the man turned out to be a creep trying to chat her up. All she was no. She didn’t say ‘no, fucking cunt’. You calling women who say no to creepy men is so harmful and dangerous.

And OP has been very restrained in the face of nastiness on this thread. ‘Dense’ is hardly the worst word 🤣 People have insulted her about her spelling. Why don’t you call them raging twats? Why does OP have to nice to people insulting her?

I also didn't call her a raging twat. I said "sometimes the woman is just coming across as a raging twat", and she really has here.”

You are calling her a raging twat, at least own it.

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:43

@Akamai you are determined to insist that women who disagree with you in this thread and others are misogynistic Stepford wives.

You have failed to answer the question as to why the two simple words "excuse me" merits a rude "no" in response.

None of us know why he said that. His response to the "no" might not have meant the OP wasn't interested in him, but to something else. There is a lot of projection on this thread.

So, I ask you again - why is "no" the correct response to "excuse me"?

MotherofGorgons · 19/04/2024 07:41

I kid you not. I just saw a man go up to a woman and say" Excuse me" at a Tube station . She had dropped her Oyster card. Yes it's not a lonely bus stop. Nevertheless...
Oh also for pp who say people never ask the time or directions because everyone has phones, sometimes phones run out of charge. Or Google Maps is just plain confusing.

AE9766 · 19/04/2024 07:36

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:28

So can you explain which part of OP’s behaviour made her a ‘raging twat’?

Certainly. For starters: rudely responding "no" to someone who had only said "excuse me", purely because he was a man. Being rude to and insulting every other woman who disagreed with her actions on this thread. Employing the "AIBU/everyone says yes/no I'm not you're all just dense" method of communication. All twattish behaviours.

I also didn't call her a raging twat. I said "sometimes the woman is just coming across as a raging twat", and she really has here. It's not misogyny to point out that sometimes that's the case, and it's not a requirement of "the sisterhood" to defend another woman who's behaved like an arsehole purely because she also has a vagina.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:28

AE9766 · 19/04/2024 07:27

It really isn't, and that your worldview is so pathetically narrow says an awful lot more about you than it does about any of us who've disagreed with the OP's behaviour.

So can you explain which part of OP’s behaviour made her a ‘raging twat’?

AE9766 · 19/04/2024 07:27

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:21

Why is OP a ‘raging twat’ for just saying ‘no’? She didn’t insult him or swear at him, she just said no.

The very fact that you’ve called OP a ‘raging twat’ for saying no is misogyny.

It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

It really isn't, and that your worldview is so pathetically narrow says an awful lot more about you than it does about any of us who've disagreed with the OP's behaviour.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:21

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Why is OP a ‘raging twat’ for just saying ‘no’? She didn’t insult him or swear at him, she just said no.

The very fact that you’ve called OP a ‘raging twat’ for saying no is misogyny.

It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

AE9766 · 19/04/2024 07:17

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Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:12

Unicorntastic · 19/04/2024 07:05

And that means?

Well done for giving him short shrift. I first had a man ask me out when I was 14, he was in his 30s. It’s like people forget women develop creepdar, we know what the creeps want, we don’t owe it to them to give them a hearing.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:07

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:05

The man haters are definitely out in force on this thread.

The misogynists and their Stepford Wives are swarming the thread more like.

Unicorntastic · 19/04/2024 07:05

Janetime · 18/04/2024 19:11

Confused

And that means?

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 07:05

The man haters are definitely out in force on this thread.

Akamai · 19/04/2024 07:00

FrogsWormsandCaterpillars · 19/04/2024 06:55

Assuming the guy was interested in you in the way you seem to think he was, he’s definitely dodged a bullet.

Yep, let’s make a woman feel bad for trusting her instincts and refusing to engage with a man who goes on to berate her for not giving him the correct response to his chat up attempt.

You are so kind.

FrogsWormsandCaterpillars · 19/04/2024 06:55

Assuming the guy was interested in you in the way you seem to think he was, he’s definitely dodged a bullet.

MotherofGorgons · 19/04/2024 06:25

There are many options between being "pick me" and downright weird. But never on MN. It's either never open your door or get suckered into driving your neighbour's kids to school daily!

RampantIvy · 19/04/2024 06:22

I still want to know how anyone can tell from the initial "excuse me" what this man's intended purpose was.

grinandslothit · 19/04/2024 05:11

Akamai · 18/04/2024 21:52

I agree. I think what’s got them angry is OP was right. The man was trying to hit on her, and got rejected and what’s worse he’s one of those men who think women owe him their time.

Some people here should really learn from OP’s no nonsense approach.

And he had the audacity to come back and tell her she should change her tone.

Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 00:48

@Akamai

OP, ignore the people telling you to be kind.

You don't have to "be kind", but you also don't have to be unnecessarily and weirdly rude.

Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 00:38

grinandslothit · 18/04/2024 21:35

I'm pretty sure that it won't be a man rushing anyone's aide if they fell over or passed out in public.

What an odd thing to say?

You don't think men are capable of kindess, being helpful or altruistic? That's not the world I live in.

Quite an extreme attitude to have.

blacksax · 18/04/2024 23:42

Going by your somewhat confrontational responses on here, your friends and colleagues are probably right.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 18/04/2024 23:33

Tetchypants · 18/04/2024 22:39

What, we all start barking ‘no’ every time a stranger dares to speak to us? We always assume the worst of others, especially if they are a… shock horror… man?

No ta, I’d rather not live in that world.

Same.

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