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Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 12:08

I told him no

context is
a man approach me at the bus stop and said excuse me and I said no right away. He then came back and said you could of said I’m not interested.

no meant I wasn’t interested
no meant no

I stand by my no, but some friends/colleagues said I was rude and I don’t think I was.

ive said not interested in the past and got abused verbally.

I normally have my headphones in but I forgot them this morning

OP posts:
grinandslothit · 18/04/2024 13:09

You're fine.
I can't stand being approached in public by men.
It's never anything important.

You can tell by their body language.

People asking for the time or directions do just that. They just say it.

People have phones, so there is no need to ask the time or directions 99% of the time.

Aswad · 18/04/2024 13:08

It’s presumptuous to assume he was coming to chat you up. Isn’t that quite big headed?

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 13:08

Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 13:05

Did you not read the full thread he came back and said

you could of said you were not interested

no means just that

I think in this weather I’d know if my knickers where on show or tucked in.
I’d also know if I’d dropped money as I don’t have pockets and don’t carry cash

so I was to wait on his excuse me then mmm

OP, you don't sound very intelligent yourself, if the way you communicate is anything to go by, and yet you fancy yourself intelligent enough to spot that he was coming on to you?
You have no idea what he wanted. You assumed, because you're arrogant (and a bit thick, by the looks of it).

BrieHugger · 18/04/2024 13:07

@Dullardmullard when he first said excuse me, what was your reason for immediately shutting him down?

crumbledog · 18/04/2024 13:06

Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 13:05

Did you not read the full thread he came back and said

you could of said you were not interested

no means just that

I think in this weather I’d know if my knickers where on show or tucked in.
I’d also know if I’d dropped money as I don’t have pockets and don’t carry cash

so I was to wait on his excuse me then mmm

if you’re so confident you are correct in your response, why have you thrown it open to mumsnet to decide.

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 13:06

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 13:00

What is with the vitriol here? This site is fucking rammed with men who hate women these days. Yes, we can tell.

You're clearly not very intelligent or observant, then, because you're wrong. I'm female, and I just can't bear women who think that every man is out to chat them up. It's arrogant and ridiculous.

Tetchypants · 18/04/2024 13:05

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 13:00

What is with the vitriol here? This site is fucking rammed with men who hate women these days. Yes, we can tell.

Rubbish. This site is full of women who hate other women. Yes, we can tell.

Regardless, OP was fucking rude IF this bloke just said ‘excuse me’ without any cause for her to be suspicious. We await more info.

Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 13:05

Did you not read the full thread he came back and said

you could of said you were not interested

no means just that

I think in this weather I’d know if my knickers where on show or tucked in.
I’d also know if I’d dropped money as I don’t have pockets and don’t carry cash

so I was to wait on his excuse me then mmm

OP posts:
BogRollBOGOF · 18/04/2024 13:04

I'd presume that OP would mention any warning signals that would indicate that the interaction needs shutting down before it begins such as drunkeness, or a chugger's clipboard, so therefore to immediately shut down with "no" is rude. OP's friends/ colleagues seem to think it was and they'd have more awareness of context and location.

TitInATrance · 18/04/2024 13:03

Yes it was rude, but if they were obviously begging or scamming - the most common reason I’ve been approached at bus stops - I’d say the same.

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 13:00

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 12:57

Is it bad that I really hope it was, after how rude she was?

What is with the vitriol here? This site is fucking rammed with men who hate women these days. Yes, we can tell.

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 12:57

DrJoanAllenby · 18/04/2024 12:13

He might have been telling you that your dress was tucked in your knickers!

Get a grip.

Is it bad that I really hope it was, after how rude she was?

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 12:56

KreedKafer · 18/04/2024 12:48

I've lived in big cities with a lot of homelessness and addiction problems all my adult life, and you can always tell when someone who says 'Excuse me' is going to ask for money. It's obvious even before they've said anything. So in that situation I wouldn't hear someone out.

Just like I wouldn't hear someone out if they were obviously missionaries, or carrying a clipboard and clearly trying to get people to sign up for a charity direct debit.

But as the OP doesn't mention the person's behaviour/appearance or say why she didn't want to speak to him, I'm assuming he wasn't obviously any of those things.

For me even just the “excuse me?” then waiting a beat for engagement before continuing gets my back up.

You’d just say whatever you wanted to say, wouldn’t you? Sorry, do you know what time the bus is? Oops, I think you’ve dropped your purse. You don’t need the excuse me to lock them into the interaction.

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 12:55

5128gap · 18/04/2024 12:54

A woman doesn't need to think she's 'all that' to think a man approaching at a bus stop is likely to be chatting her up. Its just identifying a pattern of behaviour from experience. It happens a lot. You can also tell from their body language and facial expression as they approach, as well as the staring beforehand where its heading.
I think the single no was rude though as he sounded polite enough.

Or she's just a Samantha Brick who assumes everyone with a penis fancies her. Far more likely from her OP.

5128gap · 18/04/2024 12:54

AE9766 · 18/04/2024 12:15

It sounds like you assumed he was trying to hit on you. How arrogant of you. Do you think you're "all that"? You were waiting at a bus stop, you can't be that special.

Poor man!

A woman doesn't need to think she's 'all that' to think a man approaching at a bus stop is likely to be chatting her up. Its just identifying a pattern of behaviour from experience. It happens a lot. You can also tell from their body language and facial expression as they approach, as well as the staring beforehand where its heading.
I think the single no was rude though as he sounded polite enough.

LoobyDop · 18/04/2024 12:53

It isn’t in your own best interest not to even find out what they want first. I was recently quite dismissive towards two men who tried to speak to me while I was faffing about with a parking meter- told them I was busy and to leave me alone. Realised in the end they were trying to tell me I didn’t need to pay as it was Sunday. Felt like a bit of a twat.

shockthemonkey · 18/04/2024 12:52

How rude. Hope you’re pleased with yourself.

@queenofcruises , thanks for the laugh when I misread your :

“he may have been wanting to tell you something such as, your lace is undone, your lable is hanging out”

For a second I read “your labia is hanging out” 😅

Gymmum82 · 18/04/2024 12:52

Extremely rude to just cut someone off with no if they are asking the time. Or if this is the bus to x place etc. I think you have to hear what they want first

Mumaway · 18/04/2024 12:50

Depends. Those awful bloody Chuggers on the high street always start by saying Excuse me (often followed by love or darling, that really fucks me off). I sometimes just say no, sometimes I say 'i don't want to talk to you'. Almost always they say something dickish like 'give us a smile love'. Just fuck off. There is no reason for me to respond to your unsolicited chat at all.

shannnxo · 18/04/2024 12:49

Extremely rude, you could've heard what he actually wanted to say before shutting him down?
Clearly you knew you have been rude to even ask on here?

KreedKafer · 18/04/2024 12:48

bingobanjo · 18/04/2024 12:40

Needs more context, but I wonder if a lot of the people saying you should have heard him out don’t live in places with high homeless/drug using populations?

90% of the time anyway approaches me, it’s to ask for money, or to use my phone. If you make eye contact or engage it’s significantly more difficult to extract yourself from the conversation.

Maybe it’s not “kind”, but it can be very intimidating as a lone woman and I’ve been marched to a cash point before after “hearing someone out” - I simply do not want to engage. There’s very few other reasons a stranger every comes up to me and says excuse me.

I've lived in big cities with a lot of homelessness and addiction problems all my adult life, and you can always tell when someone who says 'Excuse me' is going to ask for money. It's obvious even before they've said anything. So in that situation I wouldn't hear someone out.

Just like I wouldn't hear someone out if they were obviously missionaries, or carrying a clipboard and clearly trying to get people to sign up for a charity direct debit.

But as the OP doesn't mention the person's behaviour/appearance or say why she didn't want to speak to him, I'm assuming he wasn't obviously any of those things.

BrieHugger · 18/04/2024 12:47

Sounds pretty rude to me, but I think we need more context, he might have been asking for the time or directions or something wholly innocuous but you seem to think not. Would you have reacted the same to a woman?

KestrelMoon · 18/04/2024 12:47

I am with you OP, I am so hot, like super model hot that I know for a fact all the men that say “excuse me” between the ages of 11 and 99 are only after my luscious curves and I will give them the death stare and say “no” to be polite or “fuck off” if I’m being rude. Even men with their partners and kids, I’m not going to be a home breaker! So every man gets a “no” or “fuck off” before they can trot out their pick up line.

Elphame · 18/04/2024 12:46

Dullardmullard · 18/04/2024 12:08

I told him no

context is
a man approach me at the bus stop and said excuse me and I said no right away. He then came back and said you could of said I’m not interested.

no meant I wasn’t interested
no meant no

I stand by my no, but some friends/colleagues said I was rude and I don’t think I was.

ive said not interested in the past and got abused verbally.

I normally have my headphones in but I forgot them this morning

I would just have shaken my head at him and otherwise ignored him.

Random men do not have the right to my attention and if they approach lone women they should know better.

That he came back and had a go at you shows he was not a decent man.

GreenWheat · 18/04/2024 12:45

I think it entirely depends on his demeanour and appearance when he approached you. In my opinion, it's fine to make an immediate judgement on the threat to your safety on the basis of that. If he looked drunk/high then I would have done the same. Probably not if he looked like a normal, sober bloke in the middle of the day.