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Difficult DD

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RareTulipsDisplay · 18/04/2024 10:57

I moved here just over a year ago, having lost my DH, after caring for him for four years, to be close to my DD her DP and my little GD. I have done a lot for them, including free childcare once or twice a week, financial help etc. My DD has twice said very hurtful things to me and upset me dreadfully.

Last week, when dropping of my DGD I asked her about her little dog which may have cancer. I have looked after this dog frequently when they go away and am very fond of her. She said, " It's not your concern. It's our dog, not yours". Then my little GD asked for a snack, and already rattled I made a joke and said, "Oh a smack", and patted her on the bottom. My DD went ballistic at me using that word, though she has never mentioned this before, despite lots of other things she has explained that they don't say, and which I have respected. I walked away rather than respond as I was upset and she turned to my DGD and said spitefully, " Your grandma used to smack me when I was a little girl." While that is true, it sounded so cruel, taken out of the context that I asked her to leave. I looked after my DGD all day, despite feeling very hurt.

Her DP picked up the child and of course, she had not told him the whole story. I said that I needed a heartfelt apology from her. Several days later she arrived, supposedly to apologise but proceeded to gaslight me and change what was said by both of us. She left after dropping the biggest bomb and saying that my DH had once smacked her so hard that she flew across the room. My DH never laid a hand on anyone, ever, in the 50+ years that we were together.

I spoke to my DS who supposedly was there when this happened and he agreed that it never did and that his DD never smacked him. She has cancelled a spa date that I booked for us, for her birthday and my next day with my GGD, as if I have done something wrong and she is punishing me.

I haven't confronted her on what she said as I don't know what to do. I don't want to lose contact with my DGD. She had conflicts with her DD over the wedding with her ex, which were to do with her attitude and money, but that's no excuse for saying things about him when he's not here to answer back. My only thoughts on her lying is her hormones (struggling to conceive and on progesterone) or issues implanted during all the therapy she had after the break-up with her ex.

What do I do? I am so angry and hurt about this. At the moment I am just not contacting either of them and am waiting for them to need my help again and to contact me. Sorry for the long post and possible mistakes as it's my first one. I am hoping for some support and sensible advice. Thankyou.

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pbdr · 18/04/2024 12:03

It sounds like she's acting out, but don't underestimate the impact that the smacking may still have, and it's clear that the pretend/play smack towards your granddaughter has really triggered some buried feelings.
There were 2 episodes of our parents smacking my sister and I that I vividly remember. A single smack each time with no more abusive features, but the anger and hurt that I feel has never fully gone away, even though we otherwise have a great relationship. The last time that I cried about it I was in my 20s, and if my mother joked about smacking my daughter I can imagine I may aggressively want to protect her from even joking about that.
I think apologising to her for smacking her as a child and the enduring impact it has clearly had on her would go a long way towards repairing the relationship.

londonloves · 18/04/2024 12:03

You need to apologise for having smacked her as a child.

FrenchandSaunders · 18/04/2024 11:58

well if her childhood was so awful why is she relying on you for childcare. She can't have it both ways.

I feel for you OP, she sounds very hard work.

PollyOttle · 18/04/2024 11:55

Memory is a funny thing. I have a sibling (who has always been a bit of a negative nelly tbh) who remembers all sorts of terrible incidents like that which either didn't happen or were insignificant enough to me that I've forgotten. I suspect it's total fabrication in honesty as our other siblings don't remember them happening either, but willing to accept this sibling genuinely believes these things happened.

Enid Blyton had two daughters, they had the same childhood and they remembered it VERY differently.

It may be that your daughter really does believe what she is saying in which case there is no point arguing over whether or not it happened or asking for an apology, as she will just think you are gaslighting her. You're probably feeling particularly protective of your late husband given that you cared for him so long and he's no longer here to give his side as you say. I'm so sorry for your loss, and for the hurt you must feel hearing ill of him from your DD after his death. But I think you need to let it go as trying to discuss it isn't going to end well for either of you.

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 18/04/2024 11:55

You and your dd need a good chat. One where you listen, because it actually doesn't sound like you do here.

She has basically told you that she is traumatised by being smacked as a child, and you've shrugged your shoulders and then went out of your way to prove her wrong.

If you want a relationship with her and your grandchild you need to listen and accept what she says.

You have your perception, she has hers, and possibly somewhere in the middle is where the truth is. It depends on what you value more, being correct, or your dd and your dgc I suppose.

Marghogeth · 18/04/2024 11:54

Were they happy when you moved closer? It sounds like your husband wasn't her Dad and she feels you've been focusing on him rather than supporting your daughter with her young family? If my mother turned up on my doorstep and started throwing her weight around I'd have issues too.

Anxiouslump · 18/04/2024 11:47

I feel for you. It sounds as thought your daughter has some emotional baggage that she is working through, and is taking it out on you. It is hurtful. If you can, try putting just a bit more distance between you. I don’t mean sulking, I just mean that you see less of her, while keeping the relationship positive and the childcare arrangement with the grandchild.
I wouldn’t be making any more plans like spa days etc. This is to remove you from the firing line. When you spend a lot of time together, she will take her emotions out on you, hurt you, and blame you for the fallout that ensues (and you might do the same with her, when emotions run high). If you don’t see her as much, there will be less opportunity for this to happen. She will need to find other outlets and ways to work through whatever she is processing, and you will have less hurt feelings to chew over. You can see more of each other if and when the time feels right. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, as they say.

Soonenough · 18/04/2024 11:47

Forget looking for an apology nobody responds well.to an ultimatum. Your dog remark may have come across as a criticism about it's care. Then you went and made a inappropriate remark about smacking. Really really inappropriate and surely you don't to be told that . And to deny her story about being smacked by her father is not right . Why would she lie ? You didn't have to defend him just maybe say I'm sorry that happened. I was smacked as a child but my parents in later life admitted that it was wrong and very widespread. I seem to be criticising you but just trying to show you a different side.

Helping them , spending time with your granddaughter should not have strings attached . Don't let a fairly non event ruin your relationship. Ask your daughter if you can both move on and start afresh .

Prawncow · 18/04/2024 11:44

You need to look to your own behaviour. You escalated the first incident from what sounds like her being a bit short with you to you asking her to leave your house. Then you involved her partner. When she told you your husband had smacked her you accuse her of lying and involve her brother. What do you think is going to happen?

PhuckyNell · 18/04/2024 11:41

See the thing if your dd was that traumatised by being smacked as a child why would she trust you with her child?

so all this 'being affected badly' business doesn't make sense to me.

I wouldn't leave my dd with someone who had hurt me as a child simple as that

she's got the hump over something else and you are the scapegoat for it I expect

Octavia64 · 18/04/2024 11:31

Hmm.

What is considered good childcare changes.

These days smacking is (generally) considered inappropriate and there is a movement to make it illegal in England. Personally this isn't something I would joke about and I can see why your DD didn't like it.

Equally, you can't be 100% sure your DH didn't smack her as a child. You won't have been there all the times that she was with her dad and it's the sort of thing that you remember as a child whereas your DH might never have even mentioned it to you.

I wouldn't be giving you a heartfelt apology (or any apology to be honest).

Obviously your DD may well be very difficult in many ways and this is just one situations, so maybe you are more in the right most of the time.

But brutally she controls access to your grandchild. Either get on with her or get less access.

WhiteLeopard · 18/04/2024 11:22

OP, I know that smacking was probably normal when you were a parent, but you have to understand that things have changed and it is massively frowned upon now. Whether or not your late DH ever smacked DD, you have admitted that you did. This may have affected your DD more than you realised at the time and may well still be upsetting for her now.

You say you're expecting a heartfelt apology. But I think you also need to consider giving one. Be the bigger person and apologise for your past mistakes.

stayathomer · 18/04/2024 11:20

She seemed to have been gearing up for a fight that day but maybe she remembers things differently to you? I sometimes say about things that happened to my mum and she doesn't think it happened and then we go to my sister who tells us she saw something entirely different to both of us! Definitely give her space and with the greatest of respect if someone told me I needed to apologise they'd rile me up twice as much. You both need to talk (and not be around each other so much)

Fidgety31 · 18/04/2024 11:16

It’s a fine line to tread being grandma .
I would give her a little space for now … then send neutral messages . I wouldn’t churn over this incident or the past unless she specifically raises it - purely because this all delays access with your grand daughter .