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Colleague informing my manager of a medical issue

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Sparklybutold · 17/04/2024 23:44

I work frontline with members of the public, around 95% of it wfh. I have always suffered with a myriad of neurological and musculoskeletal problems throughout my life. Recently I have been referred to neurology, with MS being one of many diagnoses. I informed my manager during supervision as I have been open about my health issues since I started. My job suits my needs and limitations well. I am very proactive in ensuring I access all the support I can. During a conversation with a colleague I told her about this referral. She didn't ask many questions, just 'that she was familiar with MS as she had family/friends diagnosed'. I told her that I had already informed our manager. This colleague informed me today by email that she has let my manager know as she is 'duty bound' to ensure my safety. This has really angered me.

I've already told our manager - I told her this. So she has effectively told them again?

She didn't actually enquire about my own symptoms, supposedly going on her own understanding of MS. The tone of the email feels extremely infantilising and judgemental.

Confidentiality is central to our work. In instances that requires us to break this confidentiality, we let the person know. She told me after.

I have supervision on Friday with my manager. How do I broach this?

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Bathyspheres · 18/04/2024 07:24

Some of these comments are shocking, people aren’t robots, they talk at work, of course she’s in the wrong, it’s not her business to ‘report’ on your health. These comments telling you off are worrying - I wonder where these posters work, I bloody hope not with me!

FiftynFooked · 18/04/2024 07:15

I would go with "Thank you for letting me know. As I explained during our conversation I had already informed our manager. I shall know not to share anything personal with you in future."

KrisAkabusi · 18/04/2024 06:52

Mistredd · 18/04/2024 05:51

Your manager’s response is inappropriate to my mind and gives credence to the idea she hadn’t told them. If I had been your manage I would have rung you to find out why I got this email and then replied “thanks xxx. I am already aware of this and xxx ensures she always puts patient safety first”

I disagree with this part. The manager shouldn't be discussing anything about the OP's medical condition with anyone, including confirming that he knows she has one or what she has said about it. His actual response was better, although he should have stopped after 'thanks for letting me know'.

SkyBloo · 18/04/2024 06:36

Also, does your role impact your colleagues? If your symptoms worsened, could there be a scenario where it could lead to workflow issues in the wider team that are easier to manage if planned for?

SkyBloo · 18/04/2024 06:32

My friend told her boss she had cancer but was very stubborn about not asking for as much help and support as she needed, and trying to "manage". It didn't end well, i wish she'd had a colleague to speak up and get her more help.

Assume for starters that your colleague has done this with best intentions. They have seen that its a difficult disease and want to ensure you are supported. They may have worried you were downplaying the impact.

You've been open about it and say your boss already knows. It would not be unusual for her to say "x told me about the ms - how awful. Let me know if there's anything i can do to help support her".

BarbarasRhabarberBar · 18/04/2024 06:08

I don't think you should email her. It would be seen as goady or threatening. It could be an appropriate question for your manager.

BlueMum16 · 18/04/2024 06:08

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 00:21

Sigh. I've just reread her email. It's awful. I'm just disappointed. It absolutely does feel that she doesn't believe I told my manager.

I will go through the email and document my concerns with the way it's been handled. My manager did reply to her email thanking her and that she would discuss it with me on Friday during our supervision.

Personally I would email the colleague and say something like 'i'm disappointed that you felt the need to breach trust over this matter that does not concern you. As previously stated supervisor is aware' and then distance self and on converse around edges when needed to be polite in work environment.

I would have to call her out on her behaviour.

Forhecksake · 18/04/2024 06:05

I like Hopping Pavlova's response.

TesticularHeft · 18/04/2024 06:01

Honestly, if your manager is worth their salt, she has only made herself look bad.

The only concern is if your manager would look to manage you out due to health issues but you'll know what they're like and if this is a possibility.

If it were me, I would stress that you may not have MS and if you do, you will work with professionals to ensure you're still competent and able for as long as possible. Her experience will not be your experience. Go forearmed with ways this may affect you.

I wouldn't talk too much about her other than you now realise you shouldn't talk to her about it and are disappointed she didn't believe that you had notified the manager. Anything else will look like gossip, oneupmanship or trying to drag her down. Your manager should know.

HelplessSoul · 18/04/2024 05:54

Grievance on her sorry ass OP.

Thats the only solution.

And going forward, tell her nothing about anything unless related to work.

Mistredd · 18/04/2024 05:51

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 00:21

Sigh. I've just reread her email. It's awful. I'm just disappointed. It absolutely does feel that she doesn't believe I told my manager.

I will go through the email and document my concerns with the way it's been handled. My manager did reply to her email thanking her and that she would discuss it with me on Friday during our supervision.

Your manager’s response is inappropriate to my mind and gives credence to the idea she hadn’t told them. If I had been your manage I would have rung you to find out why I got this email and then replied “thanks xxx. I am already aware of this and xxx ensures she always puts patient safety first”

GRex · 18/04/2024 05:47

Well you know now not to share private information with her in future. As your manager already knew, there's no harm done except to your ex friendship. I wouldn't think it's in anyone's interests for you to expend energy turning this into a fight by demanding the original email nor by responding to her. Rise gracefully above and focus on your health. If she asks if you saw the email, you can say it didn't appear to require a response and leave it at that.

Soontobe60 · 18/04/2024 05:46

My manager did reply to her email thanking her and that she would discuss it with me on Friday during our supervision
How do you know this?

Soontobe60 · 18/04/2024 05:43

She had no reason to disbelieve you when you told her that the information had already been passed up. To imply that you couldn't be trusted to discharge that responsibility yourself is disablist and disrespectful. From the social disability perspective, she is contributing to your disability by treating you this way

Utter nonsense. She also had no reason to believe the OP and was likely following protocol. Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility. If I was told something by a colleague that could fall under the umbrella of safeguarding then I would have to speak to their line manager too. She didn’t need the OPs permission to do this, that’s not how safeguarding works. It’s neither ‘disabling’ nor ‘disrespectful’. Neither is it ‘contributing to her disability’.

HoppingPavlova · 18/04/2024 05:37

I would respond to her and cc your manager. Something along the lines of ‘given I had advised you that I had informed my manage of this medical condition, can you clarify what aspect that you felt duty bound with and what you were hoping to achieve overall with this communication’.

ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 18/04/2024 05:35

I would email back saying 'thank you for your email as already stated manager is aware. ' then draw a line. She's not someone who you can trust unfortunately.

PoppyCherryDog · 18/04/2024 05:32

Understatedcarriage · 18/04/2024 00:14

I would feel really annoyed at your colleague in this situation too. It seems really patronising and interfering.

This. Give she knew your manager knew it’s so weird and makes you wonder what her motivation was for telling your manager something your manager already knew!?!

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 02:18

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 18/04/2024 02:02

It sounds to me like her 'concerns' are around the people with MS she is familiar with and what MS is like for them. I would want to point out to your supervisor that even if you have MS, symptoms and progressions vary a lot between patients and that this woman has no idea what it will be like for you and what this will mean for you over time work-wise.

This is exactly my impression too.

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EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 18/04/2024 02:02

It sounds to me like her 'concerns' are around the people with MS she is familiar with and what MS is like for them. I would want to point out to your supervisor that even if you have MS, symptoms and progressions vary a lot between patients and that this woman has no idea what it will be like for you and what this will mean for you over time work-wise.

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 01:18

FrothyCothy · 18/04/2024 00:36

Are you in a regulated profession OP? Was she being overzealous for that reason? Either way, crappy behaviour by colleague particularly not to discuss her intentions first.

No, not in a regulated profession.

At the very least I expected her to inform me first. It just reeks of disablism and mistrust.

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FrothyCothy · 18/04/2024 00:36

Are you in a regulated profession OP? Was she being overzealous for that reason? Either way, crappy behaviour by colleague particularly not to discuss her intentions first.

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 00:30

@saraclara

From what I can deduce from the email exchange. Colleague sent separate email outlining her 'duty bound' concerns. I haven't seen this email. I know I can ask to see this to ensure its contents are accurate and representative of our discussion. If need be, I will ask for this. Manager then replied we will discuss Friday separate to me.

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saraclara · 18/04/2024 00:26

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 00:21

Sigh. I've just reread her email. It's awful. I'm just disappointed. It absolutely does feel that she doesn't believe I told my manager.

I will go through the email and document my concerns with the way it's been handled. My manager did reply to her email thanking her and that she would discuss it with me on Friday during our supervision.

Yes, I'd find that really annoying. Especially with the manager's reply. He should have said 'yes, I'm aware and sparkly and I have already had this conversation...'

Sparklybutold · 18/04/2024 00:21

ThisIsMyRubbishUsername · 18/04/2024 00:18

Tell her nothing going forwards. Some people like to stir. She probably didn’t believe you told your manager and because she knows someone else with it she clearly sees herself an expert. She has unlikely done it with good intentions. She’s not to be trusted.

Sigh. I've just reread her email. It's awful. I'm just disappointed. It absolutely does feel that she doesn't believe I told my manager.

I will go through the email and document my concerns with the way it's been handled. My manager did reply to her email thanking her and that she would discuss it with me on Friday during our supervision.

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ThisIsMyRubbishUsername · 18/04/2024 00:18

Tell her nothing going forwards. Some people like to stir. She probably didn’t believe you told your manager and because she knows someone else with it she clearly sees herself an expert. She has unlikely done it with good intentions. She’s not to be trusted.

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