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Should I pay for boyfriend’s pets if I move in?

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LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:26

I have a few questions actually and I am hoping to cover them on this one thread! I have been with my boyfriend for just over a year and plan to move in with him soon (we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50). He has a dog and cat and has told me I absolutely don’t need to contribute money towards them, but that he then wants to be able to stick to his schedules with things, he is quite strict with stuff like bedtime and when he goes to bed and does walks and stuff, simply so the dog stays in a routine (he lives in a flat so there’s a few walks for a toilet break) and there’s one before bed, so he has set bedtimes for set shifts and things. It feels quite a lot (we are late 20s, I will add) and we are obviously child-free atm so don’t really want so much structure, I’ve said like can we just relax on that and he says if we do, the dog’s behaviour can be unpredictable with being too hyper or having accidents (if routines aren’t followed) I love his pets and do want them to become mine too and for me to be able to have an equal say in stuff and I said if I can, I’ll of course then contribute to half the costs of them, he says he admits it might be hard to do that as he has had his dog 7 years and knows what’s best for him and would find it hard for me to now come in with a bunch of different ideas and change things up, which is why he says he would never expect me to pay for them. What’s the general opinion on this anyway? Do people split pet costs if they move in with partners that have pets? Like, I have no idea what is even acceptable with that, regardless of this specific situation. I admit I am quite lazy and around full time work I don’t want to be setting my alarm if I’m on a late shift and having to work until the late evening but he will usually still have his bedtime of about midnight and get up at 8! I personally like to relax in bed most the morning until I’m due to get up for work or maybe get up an hour before to do some jobs, I don’t want to be up and out with the dog at 8am, he says I don’t have to be out with the dog but he thinks it’s going to be hard if he is going to bed at say midnight or even 8pm for early shifts (we both do shift work, but are usually on the same, it’s specific shifts hence he has his routines) and then I do completely different and I do agree… is this just a case of us not being compatible? It hurts my heart to think that as I love him loads and he actually makes me really happy and I love his dog and cat, I always wanted pets but my parents never allowed (I moved back in with them to save) so I do genuinely really love his, etc. but I am just a lot less structured and as I have admitted before… lazy lol. So does this then not work? He has said he will stick with his routines with his dog/cat (mainly the dog) around his shifts and I am more than welcome to do what I want that works best for me but that he would obviously like it to align with his the best it can but then I feel I have to do what he does vs what I do because of the dog so not much compromise? My friends and other relatives have had dogs and from my understanding it’s never needed to seem so rigid. I don’t know, feeling a bit deflated and have no idea who to ask on what’s fair

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EdithArtois · 18/04/2024 07:03

I think he sounds quite controlling and wants you to move in and fit in with his timekeeping. Not allowing naps?? ‘Preferring’ you to match his timetable.that is all subtle pressure to do things his way. You say you don’t feel relaxed coming back from work. That tells you everything you need to know.

RedRobyn2021 · 18/04/2024 06:58

It sounds like he is a lark and you are a night owl to me

user1492757084 · 18/04/2024 06:58

Let the dogs keep their routine.
Logically then, your boyfriend has the routine.
Can you not just have your own routine and agree to spending lots of time together when he is not attending to the pets and when you are not asleep?
Is there room in your home for you to have your own bedroom? Could that room be a pet free zone? Thus, no pet routine in there.

KTSl1964 · 18/04/2024 06:56

It’s all control - it’s his way or the highway. I’ve never met anyone who “manages” the dog the way he does. It’s NOT NORMAL - no flexibility!!! RUN

StMarieforme · 18/04/2024 06:52

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:40

I can stay in bed but he’s then on a completely different routine to me, he’s going to bed way earlier for the shifts than what I would, I also like to nap after an early but in his world naps aren’t allowed. Don’t get me wrong, he says I can if I really want to but that it’s just ruining our time together and how we function together at home… it’s just so stressful! Finally think you’re in a good relationship and then things like this, that you don’t even think about end up feeling like a problem, but surely they don’t need to be! I feel his pressure of routine is causing the strain

I think you need to not live together. I don't see how your different approaches to life are compatible.

BusyMummy001 · 18/04/2024 06:48

muddyford · 18/04/2024 06:44

I'm out with my dogs before 7.00, a bit later in the winter. And in bed by 9.30. Dogs like routine. And I wouldn't expect someone moving in with me to pay towards them. They are absolutely MINE!

It’s funny, but my dogs have been known to ‘tell’ me they want to go to bed! By 930/10pm the give me the tells, but fortunately they will trot off with DH if I’m not ready yet!

muddyford · 18/04/2024 06:44

I'm out with my dogs before 7.00, a bit later in the winter. And in bed by 9.30. Dogs like routine. And I wouldn't expect someone moving in with me to pay towards them. They are absolutely MINE!

BusyMummy001 · 18/04/2024 06:41

People who live together often have conflicting daily routines - my DH is up anywhere between 530-6 and leaves 30mins later; as a result he goes to bed by 10pm on a work night. I’m a night owl and slip into bed 11-1130pm (later if I have essays/assignments due) and don’t get up until around 7 (to get kids ready for school and deal with dogs who need to go out).

We slip in and out of bed very quietly and very quickly adapted to not fully waking when the other goes to bed/gets up. It’s no different to the early days, before kids and dogs, when one of us went out with mates and came home very late (and a bit drunk). It’s no different for people where one or both work shifts.

Ironically, it’s not your DP’s rigidity (responsible attitude towards a dog living in a flat) that may be the problem here. I don’t think you are really in the headspace to move in just yet. I’d wait a while.

PickledMumion · 18/04/2024 06:38

It doesn't sound like you both want the same thing tbh. You want to enjoy having no responsibilities while you're young and you don't have kids. He already has significant responsibilities, and he likes his life the way it is.

It's not really fair to say that you're "supposed" to relax and enjoy life when you're young - that's just a preference! If you really do like him, then stay together but keep your own space - a year is not long.

winterwarmer8274 · 18/04/2024 06:35

I haven't RTF but from what I have read YABU.

You talk a lot about how his routine doesn't fit what you like, and how it's annoying that he's not willing to change it - but you don't seem to be willing to change anything either.

I am a dog owner and I sound very similar to your partner, I will often get up at 5am with her to walk her before work, and therefore would also want to be in bed by 9ish.

My dog has been walked early in the morning for years and years and I cherish that hour in the morning when it's just me and her. If a partner moved in and was moaning at me about getting up early to walk my dog, they would be moving our very quickly.

DuchesseNemours · 18/04/2024 06:33

Dogs like routine. Dogs in flats need it. Their toilet habits become tuned to the routine so you mess about with it and you'll be cleaning the carpet before long.

ontheflighttosingapore · 18/04/2024 06:32

He has to be rigid because he lives in a flat. That means he has to have set toilet times and I get that. He is a very responsible and. Loving owner that's great. Stup up and help don't be lazy and time to grow up a bit and take o. Some responsibility. If you want kids in the future it won't come as such a shock if you start putting others first now

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 18/04/2024 06:31

Dogs love routine.
During the week I'm usually settling into bed around 9.30-10 and if it goes past this my dogs come up to me like 'right we going to bed or what'.
He sounds like a great dog owner and very responsible, there's no need to change what he's got with the dog. I'm going to guess it's so rigid as he's in an apartment, but it can be a lot more flexible if you do ever move to a house with a garden as the dogs can sniff around there and do their business etc, but anyone I know who has dogs in an apartment do tend to be the same with set walks for the dog to prevent stress and accidents in the house.

Rabbitsarebraver · 18/04/2024 06:30

Surely just let him do his thing? He’s not asking you to contribute at all. Making a complete mountain out of a molehill

Ohhbaby · 18/04/2024 06:26

Constantdistractions · 17/04/2024 22:35

I don't see why you need to be getting up if he's up to walk the dog. You've said you don't have children yet. If you're wanting DC I'm not sure I'd pick this one, he'd likely not be happy with DC disturbing his dogs sleep/you getting a lie in after a night up with newborn ect.

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Oh I just thought the completer opposite. If I were him I wouldn't pick her to have DC with. Sounds like she'll have a hard time standing up with the kids, if anything. Although I don't think you can really judge before people have children. Shell (hopefully) get less lazy and dogs will (hopefully )come second for him.

Anyway OP, I would say that sometimes in marriage ( or a partnership) you have to make compromises to not become ships passing in the night. Sometimes in relationships one person is a night owl and another a morning person. And then you adjust your routine so that you still get quality time. I don't think it's unreasonable to get into bed a bit earlier with your partner a few nights(one can always stand up after) to spend some quality time. Or then stand up early with the morning person a few times a week to enjoy a walk or breakfast together.

Spencer0220 · 18/04/2024 06:25

AlwaysGinPlease · 17/04/2024 23:04

etc. he has people come in for the dog during work and if I’m there and he’s at work, I’ve said don’t do that and I’ll of course take the dog out for a walk and I do take him out for the toilet a couple times (the same as what he was paying someone for) and he has said he admits he would like it to be less random (I do it when I feel like it, I’m not setting alarms on my phone etc) but he is ok with that as it’s obviously my choice

Oh noooo, that's not on at all! It's not your choice. You don't get to decide when the poor dog goes out. ""When you feel like it" You don't know anything about animals and it shows. Smh.

I was going to post the same.

This is just awful OP.

Set the bloody alarm. The dog NEEDS you to be doing this because it's a routine it's used to.

JFC. I've read it all tonight

H20202 · 18/04/2024 06:25

Leave his routine and that of his pets alone, you have no right to adjust this with no actual legitimate reason.

I’m struggling to see what the issue is, he adjusts his sleeping time according to his shifts and looks after his pets responsibly.
He clearly isn’t expecting you to adjust to his routines, he’s said that?

My partners alarm goes off 2-3 hours before I need to get up. I go to bed earlier than he does a lot of the time. This doesn’t make you incompatible - this is what two adults living together is like.

he knows you are flaky with the dogs routine that’s why he’s kept people coming in to see to them. It’s not your choice when to look after the dog in a flat!!!! You admitted being lazy and I agree.

The issue is, you don’t want to be disturbed by his work/life routine and want to maintain your responsibility free one - so perhaps consider if you are ready to move in together.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 18/04/2024 06:24

Keeping a dog in a flat is far from ideal so I can understand him being rigid about the routine. It's not very helpful for you to tell him to cancel the day visitors if you're home in the day but then not take the dog out at the right times.

The best situation would very much be for you to live in a house or ground floor flat with some outside space for the dog so that you didn't need such a strict routine. Is that the long term plan?

HoppingPavlova · 18/04/2024 06:24

we have been doing it where I’m staying basically full time, so he did express to me that he thinks it would just be best I move in and can then officially split things 50/50

Sorry if I’ve missed it but, given your time there, have you been paying for your share of bills, rent, food, general expenses etc. How has this been working?

Spencer0220 · 18/04/2024 06:19

Haydenn · 17/04/2024 22:41

I never let anyone pay towards my pets. They are mine, I don’t want any confusion if we break up about them saying they are “our” pets and they should be able to continue to see them.

he doesn’t want you to pay for them, he doesn’t want their routine upset. He sounds sensible and responsible, and like he understands how to avoid conflict over ownership

Exactly this.

I had one pet before my then boyfriend moved in. We had a routine going, and boyfriend soon learnt how awkward it was when my boy's routine was compromised.

We now have shared pets, but the routine has roughly stayed the same, because it's tried, tested and worked.

I'd be VERY weary of anyone suggesting an animal compromises. Animals don't do that. They are essentially domesticated wild animals. We have to care for them according to their needs and requirements.

HoppingPavlova · 18/04/2024 06:17

Your lack of routine and carefree approach just doesn’t work with either pets or children. If you both have a late night and sleep in then the dog will likely do it’s morning wee and poo in the house, and will be barking or ripping things up waiting for it’s early morning walk. How keen will you be to clean this up and put up with barking etc? Your boyfriend prevents all of this by getting up early and taking it out for a toilet stop and a walk. Because he is a responsible pet owner. This means not being carefree.

You are not ready to move in with anyone with responsibilities. Wait until you are, but give it a miss at present.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 18/04/2024 06:15

I’ve never read so much gumph about adult bedtimes. Do people really angst about this? Wait till children appear, you’ll both be up half the bloody night and at the crack of dawn anyway.

AGlinnerOfHope · 18/04/2024 06:14

LilacsLife · 17/04/2024 22:40

I can stay in bed but he’s then on a completely different routine to me, he’s going to bed way earlier for the shifts than what I would, I also like to nap after an early but in his world naps aren’t allowed. Don’t get me wrong, he says I can if I really want to but that it’s just ruining our time together and how we function together at home… it’s just so stressful! Finally think you’re in a good relationship and then things like this, that you don’t even think about end up feeling like a problem, but surely they don’t need to be! I feel his pressure of routine is causing the strain

You don’t like him sleeping when you’re awake at Midnight, he doesn’t like you to nap when he’s awake in the day. Both of you feel it’s a waste of together time to sleep.

Neither of you are on compatible schedules. His is a healthy schedule both for him and his pets.
Yours is a schedule round shift patterns.

PersephonePomegranate23 · 18/04/2024 06:11

He's not unreasonable, but bloody hell that would be my idea of hell in my 20s!

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 18/04/2024 06:10

You can’t move in and change everything- especially the pets.
Midnight til 8am- I don’t see the issue? I sometimes go to bed at 9pm, I don’t have my bedtime policed /controlled by my DH.
Of course you should contribute to bills if you move in, unless you don’t plan to use the utilities or eat.

You sound like you want to move in, pay nothing, do nothing and change everything! CF some might say. A man would be viewed as a controlling cock lodger!

He sounds honest, reasonable and loves you? Relationships involve compromise.

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