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Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed

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Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 06:49

I need a bit of a reality check - prefacing to say I'm 2.5 years sober - and not sure if this is clouding my judgement a bit.

I bought a dine in meal in Sainsbury's and the pudding was ' chocolate hazelnut pots' ' sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

When I started to eat it I immediately noticed the very obvious taste of alcohol. Went and checked the packaging and listed within the ingredients was 'alcohol' but this wasn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else on the product - in the picture or the describing words.

I was really surprised by this lack of transparency. Sainsbury's responded to my complaint really quickly - offered me a £10 gift card and said it would be fed back to the packaging department. I said that I felt that didn't reflect the seriousness of the issue and asked for it to be raised with a manager. It has been and their response is the same.

It's not sitting right with me, it feels like a huge error - and I want to take it further.

What's the general consensus?

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Silverblue1985 · 18/04/2024 00:41

I find that a lot of products contain alcohol and aren’t labelled as such. I don’t like the taste, so I keep going through ingredients meticulously if I think there’s the slightest chance. It’s actually easy - much worse eating out where it’s not necessarily always mentioned. I’d love for it to be me labelled so it’s easy to see but know it’s often not so reading ingredients it is…

Tourmalines · 17/04/2024 23:13

TiptoeTess · 17/04/2024 22:39

It says it on the front AND in the ingredients list; I think they’ve done enough tbh. Surely the onus is on the customer to read the packaging if they have a strong reason to avoid an ingredient.

Yes , true . But he’s happy to grab 10 bucks off them also .

TiptoeTess · 17/04/2024 22:39

It says it on the front AND in the ingredients list; I think they’ve done enough tbh. Surely the onus is on the customer to read the packaging if they have a strong reason to avoid an ingredient.

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 22:34

Teenagehorrorbag · 17/04/2024 22:31

It's a bit blurry when I blow that up so can't see where it says alcohol on the front, but agree that it's important people take responsibility themselves about checking the full list of ingredients.

However - the allergens etc on the back are listed in bold, yet alcohol is not bold - so maybe this is a learning point for the manufacturers? Lots of people don't drink for many reasons - including religious and cultural beliefs - so you really would think it would be one of the ingredients that should be very clearly displayed!

(Although I suppose they don't with e.g. pork, although maybe they should......)

OP - I think you are right to raise this and maybe fight it as a bigger issue (if you have the time and the energy.....)

Again, the 14 allergens that appear in bold are not the choice of the manufacturer, they're legally required to be bolded (or underlined etc) as they are the most common allergens.

Anything CAN be an allergen, but some are more common than others, and allergies to alcohol are presumably rare or it would be included.

Teenagehorrorbag · 17/04/2024 22:31

Bjorkdidit · 17/04/2024 07:10

I now see that it does say 'contains alcohol' on the front but it could be made a bit more prominent.

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/summer-ttd-mealdeal/sainsburys-chocolate-hazelnut-pots-taste-the-difference-2x95g

It's a bit blurry when I blow that up so can't see where it says alcohol on the front, but agree that it's important people take responsibility themselves about checking the full list of ingredients.

However - the allergens etc on the back are listed in bold, yet alcohol is not bold - so maybe this is a learning point for the manufacturers? Lots of people don't drink for many reasons - including religious and cultural beliefs - so you really would think it would be one of the ingredients that should be very clearly displayed!

(Although I suppose they don't with e.g. pork, although maybe they should......)

OP - I think you are right to raise this and maybe fight it as a bigger issue (if you have the time and the energy.....)

MaryMary6589 · 17/04/2024 22:26

This drives me insane. I have an intolerance to alcohol and I find puddings are the worst at labelling the alcohol. Fair enough, I expect it in tiramisu but not in profiteroles.

You just have to be really vigilant.

It's also randomly in a lot of salad dressings.

Tourmalines · 17/04/2024 22:13

valjane · 17/04/2024 19:04

This thread is absolutely batshit crazy. A pudding that contains alcohol has 'contains alcohol' on the front and has alcohol listed in the ingredients. Yet that's not enough for some people!

There’s always whingers .

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 17/04/2024 22:07

kkloo · 17/04/2024 19:39

If something tastes clearly of alcohol I want that to literally be in the name of the product - or at the very least it should be in the description.
That's how clear I want it to be made.

The name was 'chocolate hazelnut pots'
And it was described as 'sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

You shouldn't have to look all over the rest of the packet to see if there's any other strong flavours.

It wasn't clear at all.

2 of Sainsbury's tiramisus refer to "marsala wine" in the description. The pistachio tiramisu doesn't but it has the "contains alcohol" wording.

I honestly don't know if I would have spotted this. It's odd to make a specific reference to "marsala" in 2 but omit in the other (presumably because in the 3rd one whatever the "alcohol" is, is cheap)

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TunnocksOrDeath · 17/04/2024 21:45

6Y5T · 17/04/2024 06:50

Cooking normally removes the alcohol content, leaving just the flavour

Some supermarket deserts have booze added and its never cooked at all, like tiramisu or trifle. If OP could taste 'alcohol' rather than 'wine' or 'whiskey' then it was still there.

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:41

LittleGlowingOblong · 17/04/2024 21:31

Complete & utter tangent, but it involves supermarkets and alcohol….

…..why on earth do they put the non alcoholic versions right next to the alcoholic versions, and not with the soft drinks?

If you’re struggling with an alcohol problem, you have to walk amongst the alcohol aisles to access the booze-free alternatives. Seems stupid.

Ok, rant over!

I don't think people who struggle with alcohol problems are supposed to be drinking the alcohol free versions either though are they?
Some of the alcohol free drinks do also have small amounts of alcohol. Heineken 0.0 has a very small amount but it's in it all the same. I'm not sure how that's written on the can though!

I believe that for some who struggle with alcohol that the non-alcoholic versions can lead them back to the alcoholic ones but I suppose there probably are some people who find it helpful!

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 21:37

mrsdineen2 · 17/04/2024 21:00

I generally am trying to avoid giving my children vodka tbh. I'd have just previously felt a little paranoid and ott to be scrutinising every item in case someone's added it to the small print.

If you wouldnt want your kids to absorb ANY alcohol, (whereas I wouldnt mind my kids having these chocolate pots), then presumably yes you would check ingredients, certainly medicines, chocolates

Im unclear why there is such a clamour on this thread to claim that alcohol in puds or chocolate puds is unusual, its very usual.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:36

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:30

Currently I'm eating a delicious flapjack. It's lovely, thank you.

And you are, without doubt, talking out of your arse.

The product was labelled twice with "contains alcohol" for an amount of booze that cannot hurt anyone. Meanwhile, you want the messaging for actual allergens to be diluted because... reasons.

I mean, what more do you want? A fucking barbershop quartet standing next to it singing a warning to you?

Edited

Nope - I’ve not said anything about diluting the allergy notifications.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:34

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:29

We want it to say it in the name or description.
Why is that so difficult to understand? It really shouldn't be that difficult at all.

I would think that listing every ingredient contained within a food product would start to get a bit long winded after a while.

I mean, my flapjack would have to be called a chocolate porridge oat sugar golden syrup butter bar, and honestly there isn't enough room on the label for that even before you get down to some of the other things.

LittleGlowingOblong · 17/04/2024 21:31

Complete & utter tangent, but it involves supermarkets and alcohol….

…..why on earth do they put the non alcoholic versions right next to the alcoholic versions, and not with the soft drinks?

If you’re struggling with an alcohol problem, you have to walk amongst the alcohol aisles to access the booze-free alternatives. Seems stupid.

Ok, rant over!

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:30

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:27

Sadly it’s not nonsense. Alcohol is a toxin to the body. The liver processes the alcohol rapidly because it is a danger. You can go on about bananas and the wine that you’re drinking but do have a think about what you’re putting into your body right now.

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Currently I'm eating a delicious flapjack. It's lovely, thank you.

And you are, without doubt, talking out of your arse.

The product was labelled twice with "contains alcohol" for an amount of booze that cannot hurt anyone. Meanwhile, you want the messaging for actual allergens to be diluted because... reasons.

I mean, what more do you want? A fucking barbershop quartet standing next to it singing a warning to you?

kkloo · 17/04/2024 21:29

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

We want it to say it in the name or description.
Why is that so difficult to understand? It really shouldn't be that difficult at all.

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:27

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:19

Once again, the amount of alcohol in a product that is not age restricted is not enough to hurt anyone. There is as much in a couple of over-ripe bananas.

Not matter how many times you say it, it doesn't stop being nonsense.

Edited

Sadly it’s not nonsense. Alcohol is a toxin to the body. The liver processes the alcohol rapidly because it is a danger. You can go on about bananas and the wine that you’re drinking but do have a think about what you’re putting into your body right now.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 21:19

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

Once again, the amount of alcohol in a product that is not age restricted is not enough to hurt anyone. There is as much in a couple of over-ripe bananas.

Not matter how many times you say it, it doesn't stop being nonsense.

Watchkeys · 17/04/2024 21:13

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

They want it to say 'CONTAINS ALCOHOL'.

Kneeslikethese · 17/04/2024 21:10

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front and the back. What more do people want?

BubblegumBlue24 · 17/04/2024 21:08

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

Alcohol is a toxin.

Really? You never mentioned this…..

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 21:04

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

It's stated more clearly than allergens that could kill people.

It's very obvious on this thread which posters have no experience of checking food labels!

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 20:43

It really is.

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front of the packaging, listed in the ingredients and on the product page a 3rd time on the sainsbury's website.

If you miss all of those, you maybe want to pay a bit more attention to what you are buying and eating.

Edited

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

mrsdineen2 · 17/04/2024 21:00

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 19:49

You're not looking to avoid a particular ingredient though are you? So your question is somewhat irrelevant. Unless the poster you replied to has already said they avoid alcohol in products?

I generally am trying to avoid giving my children vodka tbh. I'd have just previously felt a little paranoid and ott to be scrutinising every item in case someone's added it to the small print.

Watchkeys · 17/04/2024 20:56

Socksey · 17/04/2024 07:17

Interesting read of comments....
And while you might say that the onus is on OP to check, why then do we label clearly other foods with a vegetarian or vegan symbol? As surely a vegetarian/vegan is also capable of checking an ingredients list?
In my mind, it's comparable to that..... unlike the allergens which are required to be highlighted...

For increased targeting of sales. It's a different matter altogether. There's no requirement to label vegetarian/vegan foods. The marketers do it so that the veggies don't miss their product. It's not a warning. Not all vegan foods are labelled. Polo mints, bourbon biscuits, Oreos etc. Veg(an) foods are labelled for what they don't contain.