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Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed

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Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 06:49

I need a bit of a reality check - prefacing to say I'm 2.5 years sober - and not sure if this is clouding my judgement a bit.

I bought a dine in meal in Sainsbury's and the pudding was ' chocolate hazelnut pots' ' sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

When I started to eat it I immediately noticed the very obvious taste of alcohol. Went and checked the packaging and listed within the ingredients was 'alcohol' but this wasn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else on the product - in the picture or the describing words.

I was really surprised by this lack of transparency. Sainsbury's responded to my complaint really quickly - offered me a £10 gift card and said it would be fed back to the packaging department. I said that I felt that didn't reflect the seriousness of the issue and asked for it to be raised with a manager. It has been and their response is the same.

It's not sitting right with me, it feels like a huge error - and I want to take it further.

What's the general consensus?

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MrsSunshine2b · 18/04/2024 12:23

soupfiend · 17/04/2024 21:37

If you wouldnt want your kids to absorb ANY alcohol, (whereas I wouldnt mind my kids having these chocolate pots), then presumably yes you would check ingredients, certainly medicines, chocolates

Im unclear why there is such a clamour on this thread to claim that alcohol in puds or chocolate puds is unusual, its very usual.

You'd also need to make sure they avoid fruit and fruit juice, bread, vinegar, and yoghurt.

shearwater2 · 18/04/2024 12:14

I think they could make it clearer perhaps on the front of the packaging that it contains alcohol. It would be awful to trigger someone into resuming their addiction when they have done so well on being sober.

Also food packaging info is crap generally. I only have a 1.25 reading prescription and can read tiny font clearly without my glasses if it's black font on white, but if it's yellow on light blue or something - no chance!

FuckOffTom · 18/04/2024 12:13

OneTC · 18/04/2024 12:09

What's mildly disturbing to me about this thread is that there are very many people who actually want someone to look after them and protect them. They want someone to take the sugar away, to lower the percentages, all the fat and salt sucked out of low tier comfort food.

It's that mentality that stops us having nice things.

I completely agree with this! Surely we all have to take some responsibility for our own actions and that includes the food/drink we consume!

See also never being able to get normal coke/pepsi anywhere. It’s all zero sugar - I have a glass once in a blue moon so I don’t need my sugar intake monitoring on my behalf! People are always looking to blame others for things they should be fixing themselves.

OneTC · 18/04/2024 12:09

What's mildly disturbing to me about this thread is that there are very many people who actually want someone to look after them and protect them. They want someone to take the sugar away, to lower the percentages, all the fat and salt sucked out of low tier comfort food.

It's that mentality that stops us having nice things.

Watchkeys · 18/04/2024 12:02

Cyantist · 18/04/2024 11:47

Alcohol is not a toxin

What does 'toxin' mean? Everything is toxic, in the right proportions.

Sandwichblock · 18/04/2024 11:50

Cyantist · 18/04/2024 11:47

Alcohol is not a toxin

Of course it is, but there are small amounts of toxins in lots of things we eat.

Cyantist · 18/04/2024 11:47

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 21:03

Alcohol is a toxin. It needs to be clearly stated as present on the packaging. This packaging is not clear.

Alcohol is not a toxin

Magnastorm · 18/04/2024 11:43

neverendingcold · 18/04/2024 07:21

The front packaging is not clear enough.
I wouldn't look at the website if I were in the shop.
Yes it might be in the ingredients list but is it bolded like nuts are? What's the point of putting it on the front if they don't think that's important.

It's on the front, in bold white lettering. It's listed as an ingredient.

Weird that you are so concerned about the possibility that something might contain alcohol but can't be bothered to perform the simple act of checking the packaging for what a food item contains.

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/04/2024 11:36

PinkLemonade3 · 18/04/2024 10:42

I’m baffled by the fact that many people here seem to think that it should be labelled with more prominence than allergens. And that they should somehow be exempt from the work of reading the ingredients list, unlike those with allergies or other medical issues.

I know that there are valid reasons for avoiding alcohol but surely then you would put in the work? People with allergies read every ingredient every time, not just places where we would expect an allergen. There are products marked vegan that actually contain traces of egg and milk. Skincare products made with sesame. Milk in medicines. Egg in a hard cheese.

If it’s crucial for you to avoid an ingredient for any reason, you have to read the ingredients.

Totally. All the gluten or fish, etc containing stuff does not say CONTAINS GLUTEN, CONTAINS PEANUTS in huge words on the front.

Katbum · 18/04/2024 11:28

IKnewThatAlready · 17/04/2024 15:15

Reading this has made me realise something . I’m on day 110 of no alcohol, at least I thought I was. I have developed an addiction to Tirimasu - especially the Waitrose one and have some at least 3 or 4 times a week - I sort of knew it contains alcohol but thought it was so negligible it didn’t count. I think I might be kidding myself 😥

You’re not kidding yourself. Chill.

PinkLemonade3 · 18/04/2024 10:42

Coshei · 18/04/2024 08:18

The thread is evidence that a high percentage of people clearly expect everyone but themselves to be responsible for their choices. But this is MN where everyone is offended by everything by default.
Mind you, if the declaration would be bigger or more noticeable you’d have people on here complaining that they feel embarrassed to buy the product because people might judge them. This place is insane.

I’m baffled by the fact that many people here seem to think that it should be labelled with more prominence than allergens. And that they should somehow be exempt from the work of reading the ingredients list, unlike those with allergies or other medical issues.

I know that there are valid reasons for avoiding alcohol but surely then you would put in the work? People with allergies read every ingredient every time, not just places where we would expect an allergen. There are products marked vegan that actually contain traces of egg and milk. Skincare products made with sesame. Milk in medicines. Egg in a hard cheese.

If it’s crucial for you to avoid an ingredient for any reason, you have to read the ingredients.

Merrymouse · 18/04/2024 09:44

I just want to know the alcohol that cannot speak its name - the one that would breach the trade descriptions act if it were described as an identifiable wine or spirit.

Noyesnoyes · 18/04/2024 09:43

@Kpo58 if any ingredient was an issue for you, you'd look!

Kpo58 · 18/04/2024 09:31

DoreenonTill8 · 18/04/2024 07:15

Once more with feeling....
ITS ON THE FRONT!!! and on the back.

The pudding is described as a sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings. Where in that description makes you think that there may be alcohol in it? It doesn't. Why would I then be looking for micro writing on another part of the dessert front to see that it is alcoholic? Also anyone with poor sight will miss it completely.

Coshei · 18/04/2024 08:18

DoreenonTill8 · 18/04/2024 07:15

Once more with feeling....
ITS ON THE FRONT!!! and on the back.

The thread is evidence that a high percentage of people clearly expect everyone but themselves to be responsible for their choices. But this is MN where everyone is offended by everything by default.
Mind you, if the declaration would be bigger or more noticeable you’d have people on here complaining that they feel embarrassed to buy the product because people might judge them. This place is insane.

Datgal · 18/04/2024 08:01

We've had this op. Boyfriend doesn't drink (was a problem drinker). Bought something similar to this.
I don't think it's right for it not to be labelled more clearly. He got caught out (we obviously do check more carefully now). But that's the point, we weren't expecting it to be there, as description was similar. So we weren't thinking 'let's see if this has alcohol in'. As it just wasn't obvious. We do check everything now.

Bewareofthisonetoo · 18/04/2024 07:54

YABU - if you have an aversion to ingredients -check the list -it was listed.

CelesteCunningham · 18/04/2024 07:24

neverendingcold · 18/04/2024 07:21

The front packaging is not clear enough.
I wouldn't look at the website if I were in the shop.
Yes it might be in the ingredients list but is it bolded like nuts are? What's the point of putting it on the front if they don't think that's important.

Again, only the top 14 allergens can be bolded. Alcohol isn't one, neither is meat.

Tourmalines · 18/04/2024 07:22

AppaTheSixLeggedFlyingBison · 18/04/2024 07:12

I'm sorry OP, it should be labelled. I think things like alcohol should be on the front/made bigger on the packaging. There are lots of reasons people avoid alcohol and the ingredients section is often tiny writing.

Well done on your sobriety!

It is there on the front , white writing against a blue background. If I was never going to drink alcohol I would make sure I would scrutinise every bit of writing on the package. AND it is there . Front and listed on ingredients on the back . It’s not rocket science.

neverendingcold · 18/04/2024 07:22

I also think it (and the allergens) should be in braille

neverendingcold · 18/04/2024 07:21

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 20:43

It really is.

It literally says "contains alcohol" on the front of the packaging, listed in the ingredients and on the product page a 3rd time on the sainsbury's website.

If you miss all of those, you maybe want to pay a bit more attention to what you are buying and eating.

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The front packaging is not clear enough.
I wouldn't look at the website if I were in the shop.
Yes it might be in the ingredients list but is it bolded like nuts are? What's the point of putting it on the front if they don't think that's important.

DoreenonTill8 · 18/04/2024 07:15

TiptoeTess · 17/04/2024 22:39

It says it on the front AND in the ingredients list; I think they’ve done enough tbh. Surely the onus is on the customer to read the packaging if they have a strong reason to avoid an ingredient.

Once more with feeling....
ITS ON THE FRONT!!! and on the back.

AppaTheSixLeggedFlyingBison · 18/04/2024 07:12

I'm sorry OP, it should be labelled. I think things like alcohol should be on the front/made bigger on the packaging. There are lots of reasons people avoid alcohol and the ingredients section is often tiny writing.

Well done on your sobriety!

PuddlesPityParty · 18/04/2024 07:04

kkloo · 17/04/2024 19:39

If something tastes clearly of alcohol I want that to literally be in the name of the product - or at the very least it should be in the description.
That's how clear I want it to be made.

The name was 'chocolate hazelnut pots'
And it was described as 'sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

You shouldn't have to look all over the rest of the packet to see if there's any other strong flavours.

It wasn't clear at all.

Well it’s not all about you, and unfortunately for you most people have said it is quite obvious and in a good place to state it. Putting alcohol in the title would suggest to me that it’s a higher %.

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