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Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed

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Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 06:49

I need a bit of a reality check - prefacing to say I'm 2.5 years sober - and not sure if this is clouding my judgement a bit.

I bought a dine in meal in Sainsbury's and the pudding was ' chocolate hazelnut pots' ' sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

When I started to eat it I immediately noticed the very obvious taste of alcohol. Went and checked the packaging and listed within the ingredients was 'alcohol' but this wasn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else on the product - in the picture or the describing words.

I was really surprised by this lack of transparency. Sainsbury's responded to my complaint really quickly - offered me a £10 gift card and said it would be fed back to the packaging department. I said that I felt that didn't reflect the seriousness of the issue and asked for it to be raised with a manager. It has been and their response is the same.

It's not sitting right with me, it feels like a huge error - and I want to take it further.

What's the general consensus?

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Desecratedcoconut · 17/04/2024 12:21

CormorantStrikesBack · 17/04/2024 12:18

I check everything for gluten. Even unexpected stuff like spice jars will sometimes have gluten in. And they don’t say gluten in big letters on the front. And that’s for something which is a common allergen. Worst thing is when the ingredients are clear but you miss the tiny bit not in bold ”may contain traces of”

The ability to get gluten into just about anything is outstanding. Who on earth thinks, hey, I have a perfectly normally plain vanilla ice cream here, I know, let's stick some barley into it.

CormorantStrikesBack · 17/04/2024 12:18

I check everything for gluten. Even unexpected stuff like spice jars will sometimes have gluten in. And they don’t say gluten in big letters on the front. And that’s for something which is a common allergen. Worst thing is when the ingredients are clear but you miss the tiny bit not in bold ”may contain traces of”

LlynTegid · 17/04/2024 12:16

Sainsbury's not respecting those who don't drink for religious reasons or others not consuming alcohol such as an alcoholic who is not drinking.

Item should be relabelled or withdrawn from sale.

sashh · 17/04/2024 12:14

Desecratedcoconut · 17/04/2024 12:12

Doesn't it depend on the quantity of alcohol? I know chip shops often sell shandy, the pre mixed one without a licence and children can buy and drink it

I'm amazed they still exist - I thought they were relegated to the 90s along with candy sticks that make it look like you are smoking 🤣

Nope you can still get it. A muslim colleague bought some and brought it in where I was working a few years ago.

Themaker · 17/04/2024 12:14

As a mother of a child with a nut allergy I have just got used to looking at ingredients and warnings on the back of the packets of anything I buy so maybe it's just something you will have to do before purchasing in future of you want to avoid anything with alcohol in it.

Desecratedcoconut · 17/04/2024 12:12

Doesn't it depend on the quantity of alcohol? I know chip shops often sell shandy, the pre mixed one without a licence and children can buy and drink it

I'm amazed they still exist - I thought they were relegated to the 90s along with candy sticks that make it look like you are smoking 🤣

sashh · 17/04/2024 12:10

Tiswa · 17/04/2024 07:04

Looking at the packaging online and I agree it’s not even in bold and I would potentially give them to an under 18 so it should be
that said warnings for food seem to be over 1.2% whereas I think contains alcohol should be at the front

Doesn't it depend on the quantity of alcohol? I know chip shops often sell shandy, the pre mixed one without a licence and children can buy and drink it.

Also 18 isn't the age to drink in the UK.

IF we were to label everything with alcohol in it we would be labelling ripe fruit like mangoes.

budgiegirl · 17/04/2024 12:07

The type font is small and not located where it’s the first place someone looks at a package. As alcohol is a toxin it needs big type and located in an eye catching place on the package. It needs to be in bold in the ingredients list (I have not seen this list)

It doesn't need to be in bold - in fact, as it's not one of the 14 allergens, I don't think they are allowed to put it in bold, as it would make other allergens more difficult to pick out.

It's not unusual for a chocolate pudding to have some alcohol in it, and it's up to the purchaser to check the ingredient list if there's something they need to avoid.

I have a friend who is allergic to potato. Should every food item containing potato have it labelled in bold? What about my friend who is allergic to tomato, or the one who is allergic to apple? The problem is that there will be someone who is avoiding almost every ingredient there is - they can't all be written in bold, as that makes it pointless.

Tourmalines · 17/04/2024 12:07

Change2banon · 17/04/2024 12:02

It’s mad that people are still saying it should state it contains alcohol .. IT DOES STATE IT CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!
OP just missed it … does no one read threads nowadays? Or even just skim through? There’s so many photos of the actual product packaging which shows CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!

phew, rant over 😆

I know! It’s the same with all threads, posters do not read all the posts and chime in with their two bobs worth of nothing.

lemmein · 17/04/2024 12:05

I really dislike boozy desserts so I'd be really pissed if I bought that and the most prominent taste was alcohol. Yea it's on the front but in tiny white writing which blends into the background. Even the description online doesn't mention the alcohol flavouring.

If I buy sticky toffee pudding I always check the ingredients because I hate dates and there's a reasonable expectation that a STP will contain them. I wouldn't think to check for alcohol on a hazelnut praline dessert!

Saying that, I'd take the tenner and leave it OP - get the Gü ones next time, they're delicious!

Congrats on your sobriety Smile

Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed
feathermucker · 17/04/2024 12:04

Change2banon · 17/04/2024 12:02

It’s mad that people are still saying it should state it contains alcohol .. IT DOES STATE IT CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!
OP just missed it … does no one read threads nowadays? Or even just skim through? There’s so many photos of the actual product packaging which shows CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!

phew, rant over 😆

Exactly

Change2banon · 17/04/2024 12:02

It’s mad that people are still saying it should state it contains alcohol .. IT DOES STATE IT CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!
OP just missed it … does no one read threads nowadays? Or even just skim through? There’s so many photos of the actual product packaging which shows CONTAINS ALCOHOL!!

phew, rant over 😆

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 11:57

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:52

The type font is small and not located where it’s the first place someone looks at a package. As alcohol is a toxin it needs big type and located in an eye catching place on the package. It needs to be in bold in the ingredients list (I have not seen this list).

In the quantity that we are talking about, it's there as a flavouring, nothing more. If it was higher, it would be an age-restricted product.

I would happily give this pudding to my primary school aged kids and they would suffer no ill-effects whatsoever.

Listing it as bold would dilute the messaging for ingredients that can actually cause issues in people.

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 11:56

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:52

The type font is small and not located where it’s the first place someone looks at a package. As alcohol is a toxin it needs big type and located in an eye catching place on the package. It needs to be in bold in the ingredients list (I have not seen this list).

It is not a top 14 allergen and so I'm pretty sure they can't bold it on the ingredients list as that would dilute the allergen messaging.

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 11:56

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:52

The type font is small and not located where it’s the first place someone looks at a package. As alcohol is a toxin it needs big type and located in an eye catching place on the package. It needs to be in bold in the ingredients list (I have not seen this list).

The use by date area is the place I absolutely look first.

OK maybe second after the product name.

DoreenonTill8 · 17/04/2024 11:55

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 11:42

The packaging says contains alcohol. The ingredients list alcohol.

On the product page on the sainsbury's website it aslo lists alcohol under "health". So that's 3 warnings.

At what point does someone need to take a degree of responsibility over what they eat, if that is not enough for you?

Edited

This, and again I honestly cannot believe that people are equating CHOOSING to have alcohol or not is the same as an allergy!!
Also re feeding this to a child, I'd be more worried about the caffeine content!

Sailawaygirl · 17/04/2024 11:55

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 09:55

So the words “contains alcohol” would not make you expect the product to contain alcohol?

I honestly had to look 3 times to see it!!! I only saw it on the online ingredients bits not the packet

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:52

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 11:42

The packaging says contains alcohol. The ingredients list alcohol.

On the product page on the sainsbury's website it aslo lists alcohol under "health". So that's 3 warnings.

At what point does someone need to take a degree of responsibility over what they eat, if that is not enough for you?

Edited

The type font is small and not located where it’s the first place someone looks at a package. As alcohol is a toxin it needs big type and located in an eye catching place on the package. It needs to be in bold in the ingredients list (I have not seen this list).

Serencwtch · 17/04/2024 11:51

A ripe banana will contain more alcohol, food colouring & flavours eg vanilla essence contain alcohol.

The alcohol content will be traces & will do no harm. Its listed in the ingredients for people with moral or religious beliefs.

Desecratedcoconut · 17/04/2024 11:50

Maybe you could open the packaging and a pop-up springs out at you that says, contains alcohol! in case you missed all the other warnings? Meanwhile everyone else who needs to be careful about what they consume can just keep checking the ingredients label?

Cloudysky81 · 17/04/2024 11:46

It was listed in the ingredients list, maybe you need to take responsibility for checking.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 11:42

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:36

Alcohol in a product needs to be clearly written on the packaging and highlighted in the ingredients list. I had to look at one of the posts with the product link and the words contains alcohol are hard to find. When you’re shopping you can’t stop to read small type for every product. I check the sell by date and ingredients so I would have noticed but not everyone has the time to read the fine print. Alcohol is a toxin and should be avoided and additionally there is no need to include it any food product.

The packaging says contains alcohol. The ingredients list alcohol.

On the product page on the sainsbury's website it aslo lists alcohol under "health". So that's 3 warnings.

At what point does someone need to take a degree of responsibility over what they eat, if that is not enough for you?

ButterCrackers · 17/04/2024 11:36

Alcohol in a product needs to be clearly written on the packaging and highlighted in the ingredients list. I had to look at one of the posts with the product link and the words contains alcohol are hard to find. When you’re shopping you can’t stop to read small type for every product. I check the sell by date and ingredients so I would have noticed but not everyone has the time to read the fine print. Alcohol is a toxin and should be avoided and additionally there is no need to include it any food product.

HoppingPavlova · 17/04/2024 11:27

It would also be unsuitable for anyone who avoids alcohol for religious reasons

Depends though. Has any processing such as heat removed the alcohol? If so, and it’s just flavour with 0% alcohol then there is theoretically nothing to declare and no problems re religious observance as it doesn’t contain alcohol at the point of consumption. If the alcohol content has not been removed then that’s different and should definitely be stated on the packaging!

DrJoanAllenby · 17/04/2024 11:27

T1Dmama · 17/04/2024 11:16

Maybe you need to call someone for advice?
I’m not sure who it would come under… maybe food standards? Health?

Yes it is wrong and the fact it contains alcohol should be very clear!
Are the staff on the tills aware that this contains alcohol?would they sell it to an under 18? Are they allowed to sell it to an under 18?
When I worked in retail we had to ID people if buying chocolates with alcohol inside

Look at the photo of the product!

It will take you one second to google it!

It's written very clearly on the front of the packaging that it contains alcohol and it's listed in the ingredients.

Op bought it without reading the packaging!

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