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Alcohol in pudding not clearly displayed

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Purpledefector · 17/04/2024 06:49

I need a bit of a reality check - prefacing to say I'm 2.5 years sober - and not sure if this is clouding my judgement a bit.

I bought a dine in meal in Sainsbury's and the pudding was ' chocolate hazelnut pots' ' sponge biscuit layered with creamy chocolate hazelnut mascarpone and topped with hazelnuts and chocolate shavings'.

When I started to eat it I immediately noticed the very obvious taste of alcohol. Went and checked the packaging and listed within the ingredients was 'alcohol' but this wasn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else on the product - in the picture or the describing words.

I was really surprised by this lack of transparency. Sainsbury's responded to my complaint really quickly - offered me a £10 gift card and said it would be fed back to the packaging department. I said that I felt that didn't reflect the seriousness of the issue and asked for it to be raised with a manager. It has been and their response is the same.

It's not sitting right with me, it feels like a huge error - and I want to take it further.

What's the general consensus?

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Fraaahnces · 17/04/2024 15:31

Vanilla extract is an alcohol… so are a lot of other flavoring ingredients. Where do we go from here?

Lassiata · 17/04/2024 15:31

Rainbowshit · 17/04/2024 15:28

Huh? My kids are both anaphylactic to several allergens including some that are not in the main 14 that need to be highlighted by law.

It's up to us to make sure of the ingredients. I'm not sure why you think avoiding alcohol should take precedence over actual life threatening issues when being highlighted on packaging..

Yikes that must be so stressful for you. (& them of course!)

Lassiata · 17/04/2024 15:30

I don't know OP. I'm a long term vegan and members of my family are very upset by accidentally eating meat so I have long learned the art of the label scan (in English and several European languages) :-) Obvs it's on me if I make a mistake. I have been caught out a couple of times in France for instance, because most of the ingredients I need to look for are allergens and bolded out usually - maybe alcohol should be too? - and you get very used to looking for the familiar names of additives etc, but meat isn't and I missed pork fat on a can of green lentils recently because it wasn't bolded and I wasn't looking for it. That said all I'm going to get from it is distress and sometimes a tummy upset (dairy) not long-term impact - alcohol arguably different. I can see a case for emphasising alcohol and some other items eg pork on labels on the basis of people's religious and cultural requirements as well but it would maybe need to be on a different framework from the allergen one which has to stand out.

But it seems it was on there clearly so although I feel for you I think you need to step your checks up a bit.

Rainbowshit · 17/04/2024 15:28

Huh? My kids are both anaphylactic to several allergens including some that are not in the main 14 that need to be highlighted by law.

It's up to us to make sure of the ingredients. I'm not sure why you think avoiding alcohol should take precedence over actual life threatening issues when being highlighted on packaging..

mitogoshi · 17/04/2024 15:26

@MummyDummyNow

It is clearly written on the front of the packaging as well as in the ingredients, just because op didn't notice, it doesn't mean it wasn't there. I buy these (yummy) and they are not high enough in alcohol to make them restricted to over 18's anyway

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/04/2024 15:21

marmiteoneverything · 17/04/2024 09:57

It’s somewhere between 3.5% and 1% alcohol, so probably less than half a teaspoon. I don’t think it would be any sort of health issue to give them to under 18s, which is probably why it’s not mentioned.

I agree it should be in bold in the ingredients though, so that people who avoid alcohol for whatever reason can identify it easily. That said, it does say the sponges are soaked in coffee sauce and coffee sauce does often have alcohol in it.

There is a statutory use of bold in the ingredients list for specified common allergens. If you start putting random other stuff in bold it will be harder for people to spot those.

It's a legal requirement, not a design choice you can play with as you fancy.

Magnastorm · 17/04/2024 15:21

Deathraystare · 17/04/2024 14:34

I personally think it should be bleeding obviously written on the packet! Some people do not like alcohol, want to avoid it for a number of reasons including religious.

Ironic that, just like the op missing where it said on the packaging (twice) that the product contains alcohol that so many other posters are missing the many, many posts stating just that.

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 15:20

IKnewThatAlready · 17/04/2024 15:15

Reading this has made me realise something . I’m on day 110 of no alcohol, at least I thought I was. I have developed an addiction to Tirimasu - especially the Waitrose one and have some at least 3 or 4 times a week - I sort of knew it contains alcohol but thought it was so negligible it didn’t count. I think I might be kidding myself 😥

Oh dear. Sad It's an easy trap to fall into, and oh my DAYS tiramisu is bloody lush! 😩😚 I could eat it every day. (I don't!) Grin

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 15:20

planningforthefuture · 17/04/2024 15:15

I work in substance misuse and we prescribe a medication which can be very dangerous if you ingest alcohol so for those saying it's not life threatening, for some it could be.

Although I agree of you can't have or don't want to have alcohol you probably need to check labels as it is so common in many prepackaged foods.

Good points.

IKnewThatAlready · 17/04/2024 15:15

Reading this has made me realise something . I’m on day 110 of no alcohol, at least I thought I was. I have developed an addiction to Tirimasu - especially the Waitrose one and have some at least 3 or 4 times a week - I sort of knew it contains alcohol but thought it was so negligible it didn’t count. I think I might be kidding myself 😥

planningforthefuture · 17/04/2024 15:15

I work in substance misuse and we prescribe a medication which can be very dangerous if you ingest alcohol so for those saying it's not life threatening, for some it could be.

Although I agree of you can't have or don't want to have alcohol you probably need to check labels as it is so common in many prepackaged foods.

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 15:11

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 15:01

Unless they have nut allergies!

Always worth highlighting when allergies are mentioned - nut and peanut allergies are not necessarily any more serious than other allergies. Other common allergens include milk, egg and sesame but any food can cause an allergic reaction.

Some people with serious allergies struggle to have them taken seriously "because it's not as if it's a nut allergy", hence flagging it.

Unless you have other guidance from the person with the allergy, all allergies should be treated as equally serious.

Yes good points. Fair enough.

CelesteCunningham · 17/04/2024 15:01

Unless they have nut allergies!

Always worth highlighting when allergies are mentioned - nut and peanut allergies are not necessarily any more serious than other allergies. Other common allergens include milk, egg and sesame but any food can cause an allergic reaction.

Some people with serious allergies struggle to have them taken seriously "because it's not as if it's a nut allergy", hence flagging it.

Unless you have other guidance from the person with the allergy, all allergies should be treated as equally serious.

Scirocco · 17/04/2024 15:00

@Purpledefector I don't consume any alcohol for different reasons and it can be really frustrating that it's not more clearly marked in ingredients lists and that's so widely used in food when there are a lot of people who can't consume it for various reasons.

fromaytobe · 17/04/2024 14:59

6Y5T · 17/04/2024 06:50

Cooking normally removes the alcohol content, leaving just the flavour

You don't always cook a cold dessert, sherry in a trifle for example.

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 14:57

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 14:56

No.

So why did a few mouthfuls of alcohol in a dessert upset him so much?

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 14:56

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 14:55

Was he trying to win a bet or something?

No.

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 14:55

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 14:49

Well if it's on the ingredients that's OK... but they should have had a little sign posted by it I suppose - saying it's got alcohol in it... Who the fuck reads the ingredients when they're out buying a cake at a cafe? Unless they have nut allergies! You got a gift voucher though, so that's the end of the matter for you @Purpledefector But they could do with making the alcohol content a bit more clear.

My husband was teetotal for a few years in the early 2010s ... (7 years I think.) And about 5 years ago he thought 'I really fancy trying this dessert it looks nice..' It was tiramisu from Aldi. We had it 5 or 6 times over about 2 months before we actually realised there was alcohol in it ... I know, daft because you can taste it and we realised after a while!

He was absolutely fuming after spending almost 7 years completely teetotal ... After that he stopped being teetotal but still has a drink of alcohol maybe 5 to 8 times a year.

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Was he trying to win a bet or something?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 17/04/2024 14:52

feathermucker · 17/04/2024 11:13

But it does say that it contains alcohol unless this is a different pudding, but it does fit the description you posted.

And it's next to storage and use by guidance so I always check those things so my eye is drawn to it quite quickly

Very clear for me

SabreIsMyFave · 17/04/2024 14:49

Well if it's on the ingredients that's OK... but they should have had a little sign posted by it I suppose - saying it's got alcohol in it... Who the fuck reads the ingredients when they're out buying a cake at a cafe? Unless they have nut allergies! You got a gift voucher though, so that's the end of the matter for you @Purpledefector But they could do with making the alcohol content a bit more clear.

My husband was teetotal for a few years in the early 2010s ... (7 years I think.) And about 5 years ago he thought 'I really fancy trying this dessert it looks nice..' It was tiramisu from Aldi. We had it 5 or 6 times over about 2 months before we actually realised there was alcohol in it ... I know, daft because you can taste it and we realised after a while!

He was absolutely fuming after spending almost 7 years completely teetotal ... After that he stopped being teetotal but still has a drink of alcohol maybe 5 to 8 times a year.

LifeExperience · 17/04/2024 14:47

Alcohol was on the list of ingredients. As a recovering alcoholic it is your responsibility to check labels. You didn't do your due diligence. This is on you, not the store or the product.

Cakebytheriver · 17/04/2024 14:47

MummyDummyNow · 17/04/2024 06:51

I totally agree, it should be very clearly labeled as having alcohol.

Definitely pursue this, and good luck OP.

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Tahinii · 17/04/2024 14:38

Deathraystare · 17/04/2024 14:34

I personally think it should be bleeding obviously written on the packet! Some people do not like alcohol, want to avoid it for a number of reasons including religious.

They can read the ingredients then.
People with coeliac disease, for example, manage it all the time. Ditto nut allergies which can kill some people and quite quickly too.

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