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Why are people using the made up word rapey?

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BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 21:39

It diminishes a violent act that is so awful for the victims. It is rape.

If someone is behaving in a way that appears it might lead to rape then they are potential abusers or appearing capable of assault. They are not yet rapists.

Remember when Kiddy fiddler was used to discuss sexual abuse of children? That was insulting too.

If you use the word, why?

I suppose my AIBU question is am I over reacting but tbh I feel what I do and if you disagree that is fine too. I'm seeing it used more and more on here.

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Devonshiregal · 17/04/2024 02:03

Springbunbun · 16/04/2024 21:46

As a rape survivor this new tree in terminology infuriates me i don’t know why it does but it seems to me that the word reduces the seriousness of rape and the lasting effect it has ..,, like “he seems a bit rapey” is being used around my social media for guys asking the time from a woman at a bus stop.

This isn’t new terminology, it’s been used for decades. It also doesn’t talk about a rapist, it talks about a man who behaves in a way that makes your spidey senses tingle and you wouldn’t trust alone because you imagine given half the chance he’d do something untoward, up to and including rape. But it is extreme to go around saying that man “seems like a rapist” because they’ve not yet done anything actually pinpointable as assault or misconduct.

it’s a descriptive term and it being accepted amongst women gives us a good way to warn other women of a man who has our instincts screaming without actually having logical reason for it, or at least much evidence of someone who would commit a crime. I think it’s apt in this context.

if someone was raped but the police, for example, called it “oh he was a bit rapey with her”, then of course that would be diminishing!

edited to add that in your context of the bus stop, if you remove the word rapey from the lexicon a woman standing there might feel to ott thinking “he feels like a sex offender” simply for having been asked the time. This would have her second guessing herself. Using the term rapey is exactly describing the vibe she gets from this person without having to have any justification for it. Sleazy wouldn’t be apt, that can just mean a man who sleeps around and cracks on to everyone without crossing the line into assault. Pervy? Maybe. But also less serious, perhaps just a grotesque man to avoid but again maybe not an offender.

For me, about 15 years ago when I moved into a shared house, a man there came across incredibly well…but he felt sinister and ‘rapey’. I distinctly remembering my friend whispering when he left the room-I don’t know why, but he feels a bit…rapey? And we both knew that we felt something seriously off about him. But she had felt ashamed to say it because it was accusing a perfectly nicely presenting man of being a sex offender. The -y on the end softened the accusation just enough for her to have the confidence to share that with me (we were strangers at the time).

anyway, he did turn out to be a sex offender and I’m glad we were able to share our concerns in a quick, shared language manner and work as a team to figure him out and keep each other safe. It was a tough period of time.

this is not the only time this has happened and for transparency, I too have been SA’d/rped more than once (sadly I’m sure most women on here have)

of course you are entitled to feel how you feel and can see how the -y might make it sound flippant but I just wanted to explain the reasons I feel differently and more positively about it.

JanglingJack · 17/04/2024 01:49

With regard to 'kiddy fiddler' - a sickening phrase - it's not the kiddy that bothers me, it's the word fiddle.
Fiddle just sounds innocent, and it is - I was just fiddling with the TV remote...
I was just fiddling with a child.
Just awful.

Words are always be like this. A bit rapey, a bit OCD, a bit autistic...

YANBU @BirthdayRainbow

RogueFemale · 17/04/2024 01:41

@BirthdayRainbow I wonder if any of the posters who are using the word have actually been raped or know anyone who has.

I think you now know the answer is yes. 'Date rape' and casual sexual abuse used to be almost a given 40 years ago. I don't even think of myself as a victim, just, that's the shit that happened to me and to all my female friends.

RogueFemale · 17/04/2024 01:29

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:04

See dodgy or creepy would be a word to use in those circumstances @Caerulea and I suspect a lot more palatable and less triggering for those who have been raped.

@SaltyGod 💐I am so sorry you've been raped. You are absolutely right. There are so many other words that could be used.

I don't see how dodgy or creepy is any better than rapey, and dodgy/creepy are far less descriptive.

I have no problem with the word rapey. If a woman warned me about a man saying he's 'rapey', I'd know more what to expect than 'dodgy'.

Shan5474 · 17/04/2024 01:17

I feel a little bit the opposite actually, like it brings a bit more weight to conversations about shit male behaviour. It does have a lighthearted feel but it links the behaviour to sexual assault which might mean it’s taken more seriously, rather than just describing it as shit/not OK.
At least it’s being used in a relevant context, not like Facebook rape, and I’m pretty sure it used to be used as a gaming term when beating opponents which is horrible

CombatBarbie · 17/04/2024 00:17

GrumpyOldCrone · 16/04/2024 21:51

I don’t read it as minimising rape. I read it as indicating that a man’s behaviour is the sort of behaviour that makes one suspect he might be a rapist. Which, unfortunately, many of them are.

This with bells on.... And I say it as a rape survivor.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 16/04/2024 23:55

I agree

and wonder if you read the same post as I did this evening when the word was used at least twice to describe someone's actions / behaviour.

PickAChew · 16/04/2024 23:51

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

That is completely different, though. Shitty but different.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:50

Pippa246 · 16/04/2024 23:25

I agree OP and have thought this for a long time but I can’t articulate why. It’s like “rapey” is being used in place of “letchy” or “creepy” etc but it just makes me feel like rape is being treated the same as someone leering at you - which is also horrible but not the same as rape.

I don't think letchy & creepy carry the same level of threat tbh. A man can be those things without being dangerous, just gross. There is no other way of taking the word 'rapey', it suggests a potential threat or is used in an awareness way like 'oof, mate, that was a bit rapey'.

Josette77 · 16/04/2024 23:41

I am a child rape victim.

I use the word to describe men who I legit think could rape someone. They haven't raped me, but I am uncomfortable and they have a rapey vibe to them. Or they say things that are rapey.

Trust me I am not ever using it to deminish rape. I know what it's like to lose your innocence far too young to a heinous unforgivable crime. I'll never get my innocence and feeling of safety back.

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 16/04/2024 23:40

Pipecleanerrevival · 16/04/2024 21:41

save your affrontedness for the act of rape. This is a waste of your outrage.

Rubbish.

Anything that diminishes the grossness of the act by changing the word should be an affront to us all.

Rosestulips · 16/04/2024 23:37

I agree, I don’t like it either. Hate the way slang develops into common vocabulary because more and more people are hearing it and can’t think of a different word

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 23:31

I am sorry @WibblyWobblyWeeble 💐

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WibblyWobblyWeeble · 16/04/2024 23:27

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 21:50

@Pipecleanerrevival i think it is a given that everyone is appalled by rape and I am capable of having more than one thought, feeling at a time.

@MrsO3 exactly.

It infuriates you because it does diminish the seriousness of rape @Springbunbun .

I wonder if any of the posters who are using the word have actually been raped or know anyone who has.

I use it and yes, I have.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 16/04/2024 23:27

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

THAT I hate. I think some men use the word in their everyday language almost to sound edgy and get over-used to it. But also men constantly comparing themselves to rapists like that/joking about being rapists is itself (apologies to you and original poster) a bit rapey.

Minfilia · 16/04/2024 23:25

I used this term to describe a bloke I met through work a couple of years back.

He made me very uncomfortable from the moment I met him. He made my blood turn cold. And, as it turns out, he made every other woman I worked with who came across him feel exactly the same way.

When I said I didn’t like him and was asked to articulate why… it wouldn’t have felt right to say “because he gives off a vibe like he’s raped someone” but that’s exactly how I felt about him. So I just side stepped it a bit with an “I don’t know… he comes across as creepy and a bit rapey”. I also said that I never wanted to be left alone with him (and again, as it turns out, my female colleagues felt the same).

Anyway, he was fired from his job due to his hatred of women and disrespect for his female colleagues, so clearly there was something off with him. But me saying “I think he’s a rapist” would have made me look crazy. Me saying “he’s a bit rapey” deflected from my own discomfort I suppose, but also got my point across in a slightly less aggressive sounding (and more jocular) way.

You are right though. It isn’t something to be trivialised. But in my case it’s genuinely how I felt about him - I just couldn’t say it!

Pippa246 · 16/04/2024 23:25

I agree OP and have thought this for a long time but I can’t articulate why. It’s like “rapey” is being used in place of “letchy” or “creepy” etc but it just makes me feel like rape is being treated the same as someone leering at you - which is also horrible but not the same as rape.

StormingNorman · 16/04/2024 23:23

I don’t think it diminishes rape. It’s a quick and concise way of describing worrying behaviour and alerting other women to it.

It does sound more light-hearted than something like ‘displaying predatory behaviours’ but I think that helps the message get through and be taken more seriously (although I couldn’t explain why).

anothernamitynamenamechange · 16/04/2024 23:22

People can use it in a way that makes sense "that man saying he thinks women always say no when they mean yes comes across a bit rapey" or in a way that is wildly hyperbolic "He asked for my number, seems a bit rapey" or just bizarre "do you think purple scarves on men give of a rapey vibe?"

Just like "red flag" and lots of other words as well.

I really don't like when the actual word rape is cheapened. E.g. I can remember "facebookrape" as a term for someone hacking their friends facebook account and posting embarrasing stuff. Or being used as a term for being badly beaten in a video game. But I cant police language anyway so 🙄

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 23:16

I am finding that posters who have been raped but say they don't find the word offensive in the same way that I do is actually quite illuminating so I appreciate your comments.

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BridgertonFan · 16/04/2024 23:14

I don’t think it diminishes anything. It’s a very fitting word for some men.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:14

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

Yeah see that sets my teeth on edge

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:13

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:39

@Caerulea I have had a look and I think I slightly misread your first post so again, apologies.

It's easily done, especially on such an emotive subject 💐

chattyness · 16/04/2024 23:11

I've also been raped and don't feel there is anything wrong with the term rapey, to me it's a red flag indicator about a person's behaviour, useful knowledge that would help me keep my distance from them for my own safeguarding IYSWIM As others have said language develops , it's not at all cutesy in my opinion.

betterangels · 16/04/2024 22:58

GrumpyOldCrone · 16/04/2024 21:56

Interesting. I don’t find it cutesy, but we all hear things differently. To me, it acknowledges that a surprisingly large proportion of men are actual rapists who depend on plausible deniability to get away with it.

Agree with this.

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