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To be expected to run around after another's child?

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Blondeandbeautifullol · 16/04/2024 16:23

Hi, my child has specialist sports coaching outside of school. One of his frenemies parents discovered this and has decided their child should do it too as their child was upset mine got a place on the sports team. They felt if their child had coaching in this particular sports position, their child only needs to compete with mine for a position on the school team. Every Thursday evening, my child goes to this coaching as does her frenemy who is really only doing it because her mother is pushing her to do it - she even said "if you train in a special position you'll be more likely picked ".

What's upset me is every Thursday, I now get messages to drop/collect/wait with her child as this Thursday evening club is not convenient for them. The fact her child is only doing this sports thing is to spite mine and take their team position, now I have to drive 4 miles out my way to drop them back. This child is not always kind to my daughter and I feel the mother has a bloody cheek keep asking. How do I get to be there, watch and collect my child after having declined to drop off, watch and collect hers every week? She said she'd be able to at a push if my child isn't going but her career is very important. I want to say "so you're competing with my child as everything mine does yours has to have with a cherry on top. In the process you expect me to enable this by taking/watching/dropping off yours?" Aibu? How do I make her take responsibility for her own kid when I have to see her at school and my child is on off friends with hers?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/04/2024 12:45

@Blondeandbeautifullol - there are a number of really well worded messages on this thread that you could send to the other girl's mum. I do understand your trepidation, but you have all of us behind you, supporting you.

I think that a clear, polite message to her, and another one to the coach, outlining the situation and making it clear you won't be able to take the child home any more, is the best way to go.

You will be showing your dd how to stand up for yourself, and it is possible that, without her built-in chauffeur, the other mum will let her dd drop the activity altogether, which will make your dd happier.

I also think it would be a good idea, as a previous poster suggests, to give the school a heads up so they can be on the look out for any backlash from this child.

MichaelFlatulence · 17/04/2024 12:43

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Exactly.

Remove yourself from this drama. If you must preempt it:

’just a heads up Beeatch mum, I’m not going to be able to drop daughter home from x activity’

If asked why, ‘it doesn’t fit with our plans’

user1496146479 · 17/04/2024 12:41

Just say no. Let the coach know that you have not agreed to collect/drop this child.

Bollindger · 17/04/2024 12:36

Just send her this message.

Hi Queen Bee.
Just to let you know due to personal problems , I can not take your child to or from any events.
Thanks x.

Then tell the coach as well.
Not to ask as the answer will be no.
Then tell your daughter as well ... no lifts ever...
If she asks just got for food or shopping that night.

longtompot · 17/04/2024 12:28

Send the mum a text saying if you want your dd to attend the coaching sessions then she will have to do the drop off and collection.
Speak to the coach and say you will no longer be responsible for dropping off or picking up this girl so please do not pass on messages asking me to.
You need to do your best for your dd who sounds like is thriving in this sport and also sounds like it will be taken away from her by this other girl.

ButterflyKu · 17/04/2024 12:18

This child is not always kind to my daughter

I actually feel sorry for children who’s parents are too much of a wimp to speak up. Imagine having a girl that’s not always nice to you, sitting with you in your MUM’S car. I’d hate that!

Just say you can’t do it and keep it moving

Rachelsthorns · 17/04/2024 11:55

Blondeandbeautifullol · 16/04/2024 22:43

@ironorchids my poor naieve little girl thinks it's reinforcing their friendship and by spending time that she might be nice to her. The frenemy is utterly charming to my daughter there and in the car. It's when she casts her off or excludes her at school and then reels her in. My daughter is so sweet and naieve and thinks this girl is her friend. It's so sad.

I should say your daughter is learning from you how to be sweet and naive.

You need to demonstrate your backbone by putting your family first.
It's absolutely not your role to take home a child who has not been collected from the club. It's the club's responsibility and they shouldn't be asking any parent to do it.
If you refuse, and the child is uncollected, the club may solve the problem for you by withdrawing her place.

Rosscameasdoody · 17/04/2024 11:40

This is a problem you need to nip in the bud now. You wouldn’t be unreasonable to use the phrasing you’ve mentioned in your OP but if it were me I wouldn’t explain anything - a simple no will suffice. And the same to the coach - who you need to tell upfront that you have no arrangement with this childs’ parents, it’s not convenient for you to give them a lift and you won’t be doing it. Again no explanation needed. This childs’ parents insisted she take part in this activity solely so that she can compete against your daughter. Now they find that the day and time is not convenient for themselves so they’re trying to palm off the responsibility onto you. All you have to do is say no, it’s not convenient. And you do NOT owe them an explanation. MN has a good take on these situations ‘No is a complete sentence’.

Therealjudgejudy · 17/04/2024 11:37

Set a good example to your daughter, just say not possible any longer. Then block.

HowToSaveAWife · 17/04/2024 11:22

How will your daughter feel when she looks back and realizes you enabled her bully? Just say no, it doesn't suit.

Silly woman, shouldn't be committing her child to something she can't facilitate.

BleedingMeDry · 17/04/2024 11:22

I can’t stand copycat frenemies. Super annoying 💩 behaviour.

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2024 11:19

I voted YABU because you are being a mug. Not because I believe you should give the girl a lift.

RedToothBrush · 17/04/2024 11:18

What's upset me is every Thursday, I now get messages to drop/collect/wait with her child as this Thursday evening club is not convenient for them. The fact her child is only doing this sports thing is to spite mine and take their team position, now I have to drive 4 miles out my way to drop them back.

Do you have 'doormat' tattooed on your forehead?

Say no.

This isn't hard.

I don't get why you are making it into a drama. This isn't a problem for you to solve.

BMW6 · 17/04/2024 11:16

I really don't understand what you are finding so difficult here.

It's 4 miles out if your way! That's the reason why you won't do it.

As for her dd being mean to yours, we'll that's going to happen anyway! You can't buy her off with lifts, she's a bitch and that won't change. So save yourself the aggro and tell dd the truth about the other girl. You should help her stand up for herself and not get suckered again.

JennyWren87 · 17/04/2024 11:16

I've put YABU only because my mind boggles that you would entertain this!!

Achillo · 17/04/2024 11:09

The best way for your daughter to break out of this cycle of being treated poorly is for you to model it. You describe yourself being in the exact same position, scared to stand up for yourself because the 'queen bee mum' will turn everyone against you. How can your daughter learn qualities of strength and independence to help her develop solid relationships if she (and the other children) are surrounded by adults who still act like this.
Nearly every sentence you write is about how your power is taken away by the mother. And at the same time you are facilitating her and driving her child around. Of course you can leave her child at the training site. It's the only way to stand up to them.
If you grow a pair then your daughter will start to aswell. The power isn't in this other 'Alpha mum's' hands (ridiculous idea that just justifies everyone else's weakness). The only power you have is your own. Your daughter needs to see you use it.

Riverlee · 17/04/2024 11:08

“ now I have to drive 4 miles out my way to drop them back.”

No you don’t have to. Send a text saying that it’s no longer convenient to take ‘friend’. If the mum says friend can’t get there, just reply repeating the above and saying it’s not your responsibility to take her. Maybe even go as far as saying that if this this club training isn’t working out, she should find another club more suited to her schedule.

Redpaisley · 17/04/2024 11:03

Don't teach your kid that she needs to suck it up for queen bees and their followers.

Just tell the mother - you can't pick up and drop the girl. No explanation needed.

Bellaboo01 · 17/04/2024 11:02

Blondeandbeautifullol · 16/04/2024 16:23

Hi, my child has specialist sports coaching outside of school. One of his frenemies parents discovered this and has decided their child should do it too as their child was upset mine got a place on the sports team. They felt if their child had coaching in this particular sports position, their child only needs to compete with mine for a position on the school team. Every Thursday evening, my child goes to this coaching as does her frenemy who is really only doing it because her mother is pushing her to do it - she even said "if you train in a special position you'll be more likely picked ".

What's upset me is every Thursday, I now get messages to drop/collect/wait with her child as this Thursday evening club is not convenient for them. The fact her child is only doing this sports thing is to spite mine and take their team position, now I have to drive 4 miles out my way to drop them back. This child is not always kind to my daughter and I feel the mother has a bloody cheek keep asking. How do I get to be there, watch and collect my child after having declined to drop off, watch and collect hers every week? She said she'd be able to at a push if my child isn't going but her career is very important. I want to say "so you're competing with my child as everything mine does yours has to have with a cherry on top. In the process you expect me to enable this by taking/watching/dropping off yours?" Aibu? How do I make her take responsibility for her own kid when I have to see her at school and my child is on off friends with hers?

You dont 'have' to do this.

Just say - 'Hope X is enjoying the club. I've received a few messages from you regarding picking up your child. Just wanted to let you know that I wont be able to do this anymore'

Or when she messages you, just say - ' Hi, No i wont be able to'

X

MyWhoHa · 17/04/2024 10:57

Stop being a doormat and just say "No".

poetryandwine · 17/04/2024 10:54

NOTANUM · 17/04/2024 10:15

A few things radiate from your posts.

It’s unclear what age the kids are but you say they haven’t done GCSE yet so I am guessing early secondary school age especially if doing an unusual hobby.

Firstly you clearly don’t like this woman or the child. Your child somewhat likes the child as she’s “queen bee”. In this case, you’ve nothing to lose from you being the bad cop here. If quizzed at school, your daughter can feign disinterest: “I don’t know why, your mum should call my mum”.

Secondly and apart from the lift to the activity, you talk about your child (teen?) in a very positive way which is great but as early teens/tweens, they all have their moments.. The language sounds quite polarising - queen bee versus sweet unconfident child - yet your daughter wants to stay friends with this other girl so she must have redeeming points. I don’t think it needs to be so polarising between friends.

Thirdly, it all sounds quite competitive which is the easiest way to damage a shy kid’s confidence. You might think that’s coming from school and her friends but it’s all part of an equation - is it a highly pushy school with exams to get in, is it full of alpha parents (and kids), why is there a need to get an edge in an activity outside school? These are complex questions but long-term anxiety in children is rising and a competitive culture is a part of that for sure.

But first things first, just say no!

This is a great post. I can well believe your DD needs confidence, OP, and that she is good at this activity. It is great that you are working on this.

But tween and teen girls are generally not angels or daemons and your DD does see something in this girl. It isn’t the girl’s fault that her mum is a bitch and strands her after coaching lessons. She probably cringes inside whenever the coach needs to ask you to give her a ride.

That doesn’t mean it needs to be your problem. Start telling the mum no, and tell the coach that because of your family’s needs it isn’t possible for you to continue to go out of your way to give this girl rides. Maybe say something vague about how the mum had once mentioned ride sharing ‘but as you can see, that didn’t work out’ <tinkly laugh>.

Def tell DD to be vague with the girl if she brings it up - it’s between mums. I think it would help everyone’s confidence to have genuine plans the first few weeks, going somewhere direct from lessons or needing to be home sharpish for something.

Although you shouldn’t be telling others why you can no longer give rides, you may feel much better if this is true for a few weeks and it may be easier on DD as well. Just until the habit is broken

Starlight7080 · 17/04/2024 10:40

Msg the mum today and say I won't be able to look after or wait with or anything else from now on. Don't ask the coach to ask me . Don't involve me.
I think I may be to blunt but I don't get why more people are not like this.
She is obviously using you and knows you won't refuse .
The coach is responsible if she doesn't show up . Not you .

sockarefootwear · 17/04/2024 10:34

Definitely pre-warn the coach if you can. All you need to say is something like 'I know X's mum sometimes contacts you about how X will be getting home, so I just wanted you to know that I'm not able to take her. X's mum knows but I wanted to let you know just to avoid any confusion.' You don't need to give any reasons and could do this in person or by e-mail/text.

I run some children's activities and have experienced CF parents trying to push staff and other parents in to being their taxi service. They are probably already aware that she is a CF (who else would contact the coach during the session to basically ask them to tell someone else to transport their child?). If a parent told me this, I would realise they'd had enough and would inform the CF parent that they need to make sure they can collect their child themselves before they drop them off. They'd only need to ignore this once to be told that their child can no longer come to the sessions.

FollowTheFuckingInstructions · 17/04/2024 10:29

GingerIsBest · 16/04/2024 17:07

All the info re frenemies and her trying to upstage you is irrelevant. She could be your best friend or your sister and her casual assumption that you'll be doing all the lifting and carrying would be a problem. Why on earth did you agree?

Assuming she re-asks every week, just say no. "Sorry, we won't be able to collect/drop Jane". And leave it at that.

I wouldn't say every week. Say once that it is no longer convenient and ignore further requests. If she queries say you were busy and didn't see. I used to be so polite about these things but there are so many cheeky fuckees around these days.

Winter2020 · 17/04/2024 10:20

Blondeandbeautifullol · 16/04/2024 17:35

I totally agree with the just say no replies. However, this is the first time I've been asked up front. On 4 prior occasions I've just been called or messaged during the sports class directly, or when i ignored it via the coach there that she's unable to collect her daughter now so can I bring them home. I obviously can't abandon a child there. But it's every week!

I think you need to be brave - text this person - "I am not able to provide transport for your daughter to x club and because you keep putting me in a difficult position by expecting me to do this without asking I am now removing your number from my phone. Please don't ask me again".

Then block the number. If the coach asks you to give the child a lift back say "sorry I'm not able to" - the parent will soon stop it when the coach has to take the child back or hang on for the late parent.

Be brave.