Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…

I think it's massively over-rated anyway. Like shampoo-conditioners are fine in a pinch but a piss poor alternative to shampoo then conditioner. One at a time please.

I know two young women married to guys who are average height - if 5ft 8 or 9 is still average? Obviously they are happy - but their mums have privately expressed disappointment to me. Like ' he's lovely . But....'.

Maybe it's a generational thing?

I do wonder how, for example, a 6' 4" man and a 5' 3" woman manage 69?

I'm 6 foot two. My partner is five foot eight.

My sense of self worth and self love does not hinge on the height (or indeed anything else) of another person. He's the best man I have ever met. He's thoughtful, kind, intelligent, does a lot of good in the local community, and is absolutely wonderful.

We were both on dating apps for a time, then came off them, before we met each other. He went on a date with a woman he met on Tinder. They mey, she saw his height, said "no, you're too short and walked out".

I see her round town sometimes, and she's monstrously fat, has two kids by this known local criminal, and looks like hell. Her boyfriend is like a shaved gorilla and at least 6 foot 7, so I guess she got the important thing, right? Hahaha.

@ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey, I agree the misandry claims are nonsense (I think). My impression is MN nowadays is quite patriarchal and claims that almost all women are amazing performers and perfect martyrs, and any woman saying she is otherwise is casr as a monster. Of course, this means they are amazing in contrast to men generally but it is from patriarchal viewpoint rather than misandry.
Or that is nonsense. Sorry.

I saw some tiktoks from a company that sells realistic looking hair pieces to balding men. Lots of their customers are 20 and 30-something men. I notice that underneath these videos there are always lots of comments from women saying things like ‘you look amazing’, ‘wow, what a transformation’, ‘looking great’ etc. etc. Basically, being lovely and supportive to these men. Men on the internet rarely lend the same level of support to women who don’t fit the beauty ideals.

Which is a long old way of saying that all these claims of misandry sound like old bollocks to me.

I always felt this way, I am 5.10 but when I met my now husband he made up for the missing inch in height with his personality.
My best friend has always been very vocal about this, and won´t date ANYONE not taller than her. Maybe it has an influence on the fact she has never married (which she always wanted).

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And that's the most important thing - the humans, the people (ie men) will have their fair share of womenthings to service them.

Dating them out of fairness seems to be exactly what you are suggesting!

Tall females as well. Not 6 foot but something like 5’7 is considered a lovely height.

To be fair I am not drop dead gorgeous, I just ticked a lot of the stereotypes in my youth (blonde, tall, blue eyes, thin).
It's ok, ops friend wouldn't look twice at me now as I'm over 30 and therefore invisible.
Plus my existing shorty may get territorial if I bring home a stray.

Yes, being tall is overwhelmingly seen as positive and desirable as far as males are concerned.

This is true. "Lovely and tall" is far more often heard than "lovely and short". Of boys, anyway.

As a sometime primary school teacher, I often heard, even from their own parents "Oh he may be small, but he's clever/loud/good at sport/friendly... " etc. of a shorter boy, as if being short was in any way a negative that had to be made up for.

I agree - DS was a tall child - as was DH apparently and people do praise it and assume it translates to adult height. It often counted against DS when younger as with his speech people assumed or insisted he was older than he was.

I feel I have to constantly shut down IL height obsession - and watch I don't pick it up and pass it on. Recent and rare my side of family event - like IL family mix of tall and small people - and no-one mentioned DS height it was all how smart and handsome DS was.

@5128gap Silly me! It's so obvious now.

Thank you.💐

You need to pay attention! The benefits are that women will get a man! All these single women living miserable half lives because of their own silly fussiness, will become complete and whole with a man by their side. Because a man you don't find attractive is better than no man at all.
And, if that isn't enough, you will rest easy knowing that no short man has ever needed to compromise on his ideal, because without your silly prejudice, he can have any of us he likes!
Still not enough.. ? The OPs friend can leave his wife, safe in the knowledge he will have his choice of replacements.
Short men everywhere will have their lives transformed. They will be confident and happy, and will never forget the kind women who made it possible, and will devote the rest of their lives to helping us improve our own lives in gratitude.

I'm married to a guy who's 6ft 1 but I can't say it was a criteria, it was just the height he came. I've dated shorter guys (taller than me is easy as I'm 5ft 5)

@KimberleyClark Well, of all the tall men I've known, I wasn't turned on by most of them, just like I'm not attracted to most men. And I've known short guys who don't have 'short man syndrome' though most of them have had their height commented on - they just react differently.

Interestingly I have a very tall son (he's only 7) and adults will often say to him things like "oh you're lovely and tall aren't you " or to me "it's great that he's a big tall boy" in front of him. I can't imagine if he was small someone saying "isn't he lovely and small" ... makes me think our boys (and girls) are receiving messages about height from a young age even if we ourselves don't comment on it.

I agree that taller people are usually more laidback. Short woman syndrome is also a thing. I’ve noticed they tend to be quite bossy and thin skinned. My MIL is the worst - 5 foot nothing and constantly says things like ‘I may be short but I still know how to insert something literally nobody asked about’

@PippiLongShockinglyLongWait Lacies? No, no, no, the borrowing was only supposed to go one way!

I guess if you're tall & drop dead gorgeous then people will assume that a short guy you're with must be (a) loaded, (b) fantastic in bed, or (c) both - which is an ego boost for him. I suppose it suggests you have access to his money & lots of amazing sex, so it's a social benefit for you, too.

One thing I like about tall men is that the ones I've known socially have all been laid back kind of guys. I discussed this with (tall) DH many moons ago, wondering whether the extra height makes them unafraid of other men & therefore more relaxed. This in turn might make them more attractive to potential partners.

Some short men OTOH... Oh dear. A woman once said to me that she'd had a failed date with a pompous, up-himself bloke who swore a lot. I jokingly said (using every sterotype in the book), "Was he short & a director of his own company, who drives a Jaguar?". She looked at me in astonishment & asked, "You know him???".

Hmmm…so you are biased in favour of tall men because of your previous experience, and biased against short men because of your previous experience?

I have met very few men who have exhibited “short man syndrome”. In most cases it is a consequence of how they are perceived and treated, rather than a cause of it.

Ahh no definitely no stooping here!

@thecrispfiend As long as you don't stoop to be nearer his height. I knew someone who did that in photos & it looked awful.

I don't know, I'm not sure I count increased chance of him fitting in my lacies as a pro.

I am tall and always been with short guys. One possible pro is people act with disbelief of you are a good looking tall girl with a non alpha looking male. But the downsides of him being squared up to or abused aren't great.
I can pinch his socks though...