Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…

Many people want a million quid but they ain't never gona get it lol. Just because a woman might say they want a tall guy it doesn't mean it will happen and she will most likely be fine with some one of around 5ft 8 to 5ft 10 inches. I have never heard any women mention mens height to me accept for on one occassion when a guy was shorter than my friend and she didnt like that. The average height for a man in England is 5ft 9 and for a woman it's 5Ft 3. So long as you are a few inches taller than the woman, women generally dont really care about a man being tall. Am 5ft 2 and I would be fine dating a man who's 5 ft 5 or 5 ft 6.

Many years ago when I was online dating, I had it clearly written in my profile I was 5 ft 11. The amount of 5ft 8 guys I met who said "wow I didn't think you would be so tall" was very off putting. Like, dude I clearly said I was very tall!! Actual feet and inches was clearly stated. Put many men off. My husband who is 6ft 1 and shorter that me on the rare occasion I choose to wear heels still jokes about it. You can't choose your height but you can choose the person you wish to share a bed with.

Of course some women care. Your comment was really dismissive of someome who, like me, has personally never encountered that preference among their female friends, though. That’s why it comes across like you’re convinced all women care about height when they obviously don't.

I agree with PP, in a society where men hold the power the concept had very little meaning and is mainly just a way of calling women 'bitter' and 'nasty' that they think makes them sound intelligent
Agree with this.

There's some excellent debates and discussions on here about gender, gender roles, men and woman in relationships (and many other topics). There's lots of threads where posters side with the man in the situation too as well as threads where women are challenged. There's some threads with valid "would we say the same if sexes were reversed" posts and some ridiculous "if the sexes were reversed nobody would say it" posts where the sex of the people is completely relevant to the discussion so flipping the sexes doesn't work. Most people manage those discussions fine, even if they have a different opinion.

It's a certain type of poster, in my experience, who tend to jump to claims of misandry, usually posters who drop crumbs of incel or MRA or "I'm just a cool girl who isn't like the other mean women" rhetoric. In those situations I tend to mentally replace "misandry" claims with any of the following: "women are saying things I don't like about a man/about male pattern behaviour" or "women are saying no to men and that makes me angry" or "how dare women have boundaries and stop centring the penis".

So, men in prison are statistically taller?

No usually large aggressive males if you going with the primate and human crime stats theory.

Weak men with a chip on their shoulder and a point to prove?

Haha the protective tall male theory going on here which is utter rubbish, who do women need protecting from? Statistically have a guess?

It sounded to me that the intelligentsia had finally arrived to honour us with their articulate and thoughtful contribution to the thread. I have immediately reviewed my previous opinions in light of their erudite input.😂

Liking tall men is written into our evolutionary drive. Well, for some of the month anyway. Primates are meant to go for the protective large type when ovulating, to produce the best offspring. And go for providers and carers to raise said offspring.

There is something rather instinctual about tall men being attractive. They speak to the primate in us that values dominance and power. That's really just society reflecting years and years of evolution rather than the other way round.

I'm very aware that I'm attracted to different men at different times of the month or reproductive life. I have a type but massively deviate from this at times. It's interesting. (No my type isn't 6'3 like the op or 5' nothing like her Mra friend. Something in-between)

Men obviously have a drive to find the best mate still in that they go for obvious fertility signs. Although being less high stakes for them they're less tuned into what's real imo, hence they struggle to tell plastic surgery, make up enhancement, hair, clothes and even if it's a ladyboy.

Women on the other hand are far more highly tuned to subtle mating signals and factors. Some of them ignore their instincts, sure, but we've developed over thousands of years to be able to spot a wrong un. I think that's the chief problem these whiny men have.

And boy, does it make them angry! Have you ever known a woman, happy with her partner, get that angry with other women who have a different preference? Calling them "retarded" and "insane bints", calling for them to get hysterectomies and spitting about their "junk tier DNA", and getting so enraged they can no longer type properly?

Doesn't sound like someone who's ever been told to #BeKind, does it?

It's mind-boggling how many red flags people are willing to ignore, but then happy to reject someone based on height.

Probably what the OP was driving at - but height will be part of sexual preference for some women but I think only on OLD would it be a such a barrier and most women would be looking at a variety of things that are important to them. For me it was the classic make me laugh ie show some intelligence good humor, empathy and understanding.

Whos' saying it's misandry? Where? Is it happening on this thread?

If you missed the accusations of "shocking and blatant misandry" from a couple of pages back, it may be you who requires the medication. Love.

Are women allowed to screen out angry men who use misogynistic and disablist slurs?

It's worth remembering that Yuri Gagarin, the first person in space, got the job for his high skills and competence, good looks and the fact that, at 5'2", he was one of the few cosmonauts who could fit inside the space capsule. He also hit his head when trying to escape out of a window when his wife found him cheating, so at least two women liked him.

I’ve always fancied short men, my first ex and my late dh were shorter than me.. both around 5foot 4

I’ve dated men from 5’4” to 6’, ended up marrying one who’s 6’9”.
Nothing to do with his height, he’s a great man who makes me laugh every day

If they're on the look out for misandry as the counterpoint to misogyny, the pickings are slim. They're doing the best they can with what they've got.

I think short men are probably disadvantaged when it comes to dating...but dating and relationships are not an equal opportunity type of thing. And many other characteristics on both men and women can make dating difficult.

To be frank it's tough shit really.

What's interesting is how something like having a dating preference is MISANDRY. All it takes to hate men is not to be prepared to date every last one of them.

You're too kind, thank you so much! I'm sick home from work and literally am Le Die (If I were a man I would have far exceeded Man Flu, we're into Manthrax terrotory here, the Dressing Gown of Doom is on, The Hood is Deployed, and I'm slathered in so much Vicks I'm like a mentholayted otter).

I don't write for a living, alas. I work in a small company in a niche industry. However, my daily and weekly reports about my progress are similarly written (I belive, IIRC, my last handover to a colleague filling in when I was on leave, ended with "May the odds be ever in your favour") and apparently, this is just how I roll.

And at any rate, he does look like a shaved gorilla! She (this horrible woman) stopped my partner and said hi once, wirth her alopecia addled ape in tow. The resemblance is unacanny.

My point is though, height is so far not the most important thing, and as someone else rtightly said above, so many women ignore so many red flags because a man fulfills that once basic criteria.

We deserve better and we need to start re-evaluating what is important to us.

I see her round town sometimes, and she's monstrously fat, has two kids by this known local criminal, and looks like hell. Her boyfriend is like a shaved gorilla and at least 6 foot 7, so I guess she got the important thing, right? Hahaha.

Please tell me you write for a living because I’ve been ugly laughing for the last 5 minutes 🤣

I had a colleague who told anyone who would listen that her hubby was ‘6ft 4 and built like a brick shithouse’ (even clients!). He popped by the office one day and fuck me he could’ve been Shrek’s double!

I think 'misandry' was introduced by our resident MRA (they used to say 'double standards' all the time until they learned it) who haunt the boards looking for evidence to support their claims that women are oppressing men. MN is one of the few places where they can find any evidence of women centred discussion. And of course, if you're centering women, you must be hating men.
Unfortunately the term has now been adopted and used hyperbolically by some women who are either uncomfortable with criticism of men in general and unable to seperate the personal from the societal (their husband is lovely, they fear for their sons) or seem to live as though they are under constant observation from men, and want to win their approval by being the one who jumps to their defence.
I agree with PP, in a society where men hold the power the concept had very little meaning and is mainly just a way of calling women 'bitter' and 'nasty' that they think makes them sound intelligent.

OP, completely agree with you!

As someone who's 5'9 and often wear heels, height is not a key criteria for me.

It's mind-boggling how many red flags people are willing to ignore, but then happy to reject someone based on height.

In an ideal scenario, yeah, someone 6'3+ would be nice. But I'd never ever disregard someone because of their height if they seem to have a captivating personality. Also, when horizontal, height is a non-issue... I'm currently seeing a wonderful man who I think is shorter than I am, even when I don't wear heels. I don't know as I don't care and I wouldn't want him any different.

Scandinavia does seem to be ahead of us in social issues and height is far less of an issue here.
I am a man (5'10") and have been approached by taller women several times, which would not happen in the UK.