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Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…

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Moonfishstar · 16/04/2024 13:08

… and not write off the majority of men who are under 6 foot (85%).

Women seem to be fighting for a small proportion of men - with the disappointment that will inevitably bring to the many who inevitably won’t succeed. Of course, it’s even crapper for the good,
but short, men out there.

Of course, we all fancy who we fancy, and I’m not saying we should date shorter (or even average!) men out of pity or a “sense of fairness”, but how much of women’s desire to bag a tall guy is actually societal, and down to how they think other women will view them?

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PeaceOnThePorch · 16/04/2024 14:27

Sapphire387 · 16/04/2024 14:24

Rishi is not dishy.

She couldn’t have meant Rishi could she. 😮

Moonfishstar · 16/04/2024 14:26

Begsthequestion · 16/04/2024 14:03

Op's point is that men have to be over 6ft. The responses on here saying "I want a man to be taller than me" is not the same thing.

6ft was more illustrative of my point that we tend to prefer tall men, whether we classify that as 5’10 or 6’2 is by the by.

All other things being equal, anyone who thinks that a 6ft guy wouldn’t get tons more attention that a 5’5 guy is deluded… That’s not making a moral point, it’s just how it is.

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DeedlessIndeed · 16/04/2024 14:25

I've dated shorter and taller men. I agree that as a society, men who are shorter than their partners should not be emasculated or ridiculed.

However in my case most of the stick came from his friends. It then made him uncomfortable if I wore even the smallest heel. Eventually he didn't want me socialising in group sessions with his friends and their partners.

Safe to say I left him.

I would suggest that it is insecurity that is more unattractive to women, rather than small stature.

IncompleteSenten · 16/04/2024 14:25

Tom cruise is a creepy twat and would be one if he was 10ft tall.

What's being challenged here is the must be 6ft tall bit. I don't believe it is true women are only interested in men who are at least 6 feet tall.

If the op had said straight women are generally only or at least are more interested in men who are taller than they are, I'd agree. I think a significant number of straight women do prefer men who are as tall or taller than them. Prefer does not even mean would not date if shorter though.

But the whole must be six feet tall or not interested claim?

Nah.

Mapleunicorn · 16/04/2024 14:25

im 5”4 and my DP is 6”1. If anything I would prefer if he was a bit shorter. 5”10 is probably my ideal, but I wasn’t going to rule him out for being “too” tall, same as I wouldn’t rule someone out for being “too” short. It’s merely a preference.

I think it’s more of a thing on OLD than in the wild as you have nothing to go on other than a couple of photos and a few facts such as age, location, height. It’s human nature when faced with a sea of options to filter in some capacity so height is a common one. I doubt many women are meeting attractive, friendly, funny men in bars but saying no thanks you are an inch shorter than my criteria

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 16/04/2024 14:24

DH is about same height as me I'm 5 ft 6 he's 5 ft 6.5. Kids have ended up about our height DD1 same DD2 few inches taller and DS about my height.

I'm not a big heel wearer due to own issues but I think DH being noticeable smaller than me - I may have found that off putting though not sure why.

IL are odd about height - FIL inordinately proud of being 6ft - yet own Dad and paternal GF were so it seems not such a big thing to me. Their comments over years have led me to worry about DS height a bit - though recently family event older ladies kept coming up and remarking on how handsome he was and he doing well academically and aiming for a well paid career - so hopeful.ly a non issue.

I did see data from decades back in USA that height and seniority and pay were related - but not sure that holds here or even there now - quick search found this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1184250/Size-matters-comes-salary-Tall-men-highest-earners.html

I think dating apps add extra blocks but not sure it's clear how successful they are anyway.

Size matters when it comes to salary: Tall men are also the highest earners

Tall men earn more than their vertically challenged colleagues, research shows. Extra inches in height can be worth hundreds of pounds in annual income.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1184250/Size-matters-comes-salary-Tall-men-highest-earners.html

Sapphire387 · 16/04/2024 14:24

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/04/2024 14:21

The objectively most attractive man on earth is about 5’6”/7” ish. If you don’t know who that is I can’t help you.

Rishi is not dishy.

Goldenbear · 16/04/2024 14:23

You’re not ‘your’

YouHaveAnArse · 16/04/2024 14:22

I find a partner being taller than I am really awkward, to be honest. Hard to have a conversation or kiss if you're constantly on tiptoe.

Goldenbear · 16/04/2024 14:22

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 16/04/2024 14:16

I’m intrigued by the number of posters claiming this isn’t a thing - men’s height is constantly commented on, look at Tom Cruise, and it’s still incredibly unusual to see a man shorter than his partner (I have a lot of friends and only know one couple where she is taller than him but they’re both tall).

I don’t find short men attractive - I’m very tall and have always gone for men 6’ snd over. I think it’s a biological drive and I’m not going to override it 😄

But your very tall though.

IME when younger, female friends teens, early 20s went for more pretty boys, at the time it was Band members of Blur so quite pretty men, men that were cool with music tastes and could talk about interesting things like Art and politics but the biggest attraction point was definitely humour and if they could make you laugh. I think it is in no way an arbitrary 6ft and that will do, attraction is more dynamic than that imo, a boring 6ft man is just that.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/04/2024 14:21

The objectively most attractive man on earth is about 5’6”/7” ish. If you don’t know who that is I can’t help you.

Desecratedcoconut · 16/04/2024 14:21

YankSplaining · 16/04/2024 14:17

I really get sick of people here accusing other Mumsnetters of secretly being men. All it really says is, “You’re not acting the way I think a woman ought to act, so you can’t really be one,” which is shitty.

The whole thing with only wanting to date men six feet or taller is a real phenomenon on dating apps, and noticing that doesn’t make someone a man. 🙄

But the whole, women have preferences which are mean and unkind, is a particular preoccupation with the incel crowd.

Begsthequestion · 16/04/2024 14:20

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 16/04/2024 14:16

I’m intrigued by the number of posters claiming this isn’t a thing - men’s height is constantly commented on, look at Tom Cruise, and it’s still incredibly unusual to see a man shorter than his partner (I have a lot of friends and only know one couple where she is taller than him but they’re both tall).

I don’t find short men attractive - I’m very tall and have always gone for men 6’ snd over. I think it’s a biological drive and I’m not going to override it 😄

Commented on by who? Hollywood standards are not real life.

Again, wanting a man taller than you doesn't mean all men need to be 6ft because most women are not anywhere near 6ft, so the majority of the time "taller" means over 5'6 (or 5'9 if you wear heels).

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/04/2024 14:20

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 16/04/2024 14:16

I’m intrigued by the number of posters claiming this isn’t a thing - men’s height is constantly commented on, look at Tom Cruise, and it’s still incredibly unusual to see a man shorter than his partner (I have a lot of friends and only know one couple where she is taller than him but they’re both tall).

I don’t find short men attractive - I’m very tall and have always gone for men 6’ snd over. I think it’s a biological drive and I’m not going to override it 😄

I think it’s because Tom Cruise is a bit of a twat!

PeaceOnThePorch · 16/04/2024 14:20

C1N1C · 16/04/2024 13:59

It's interesting how many in here are saying they've never heard of it, or that they're surprised it matters, but I'd say a good 50% of comments in here are that they'd never date shorter, they like heels, they need someone to reach the top shelf, my husband is taller and I like it, tall men are more attractive...

So the OP does have a point.

But it does seem like it's one of those acceptable requirements. A woman saying she likes tall men is normal and not really questioned, a man saying he prefers big boobs is shallow. It's funny how there's a filter for one but not the other on dating sites! :)

I think any preferences are fine. Every person I’ve ever discussed that with thinks that too.

Are you a bloke trying to point out double standards where there often aren’t any, by any chance?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/04/2024 14:19

btw I’m 5’6”. I’m happy with my height or over.

Whatever height people are it depends on their personality and how they carry it. Any height can be unattractive combined with the wrong attitude about it.

If a man is brave and good, I actually find combining this with being short an additional attraction.

YankSplaining · 16/04/2024 14:17

I really get sick of people here accusing other Mumsnetters of secretly being men. All it really says is, “You’re not acting the way I think a woman ought to act, so you can’t really be one,” which is shitty.

The whole thing with only wanting to date men six feet or taller is a real phenomenon on dating apps, and noticing that doesn’t make someone a man. 🙄

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 16/04/2024 14:16

I’m intrigued by the number of posters claiming this isn’t a thing - men’s height is constantly commented on, look at Tom Cruise, and it’s still incredibly unusual to see a man shorter than his partner (I have a lot of friends and only know one couple where she is taller than him but they’re both tall).

I don’t find short men attractive - I’m very tall and have always gone for men 6’ snd over. I think it’s a biological drive and I’m not going to override it 😄

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/04/2024 14:15

I don’t think this is really a thing, OP. It seems to be something men trot out “oh women all want someone over 6’”, but I haven’t met any women who care meaningfully about that - many want someone at least as tall as them, but by no means all.

I personally don’t mind if men are tall or short or middling.

I do mind the two “syndromes” -

Short man syndrome - where a man clearly has issues about being short and is always trying to make up for it by being Uber aggressive and forever making about about how they won’t be crossed.

Tall man syndrome- when a man thinks being tall is an achievement and wants prizes for it - the most or only comfortable bed or seat, the front seat (they move forwards and backwards so no need whatsoever) etc

IncompleteSenten · 16/04/2024 14:15

Your fantasy man is just that though. Fantasy. It doesn't mean anything.

My fantasy man is Ryan gentles, and my husband looks like Howard from the Halifax ads. And he's bloody fantastic!

Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…
Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…
C1N1C · 16/04/2024 14:15

Begsthequestion · 16/04/2024 14:10

The average height for a woman in the UK is 5'4.

So a man needs to be in average 5'5 or more to be taller than his female partner.

So very much not 6ft.

I'd be interested to know the statistics on the 'arbitrarily-decided' searches on dating sites of the 6-foot requirement.

Truth be told, I think it's more psychological than anything... like how people statistically tend to pick 7 as a lucky number, or round a selection of objects to ten. I suspect 6-foot is nothing more than a convenient round number, because you're right... if the majority of women in the UK are 5'4... say 5'7 in heels... is a 5'10 man really not going to tick the box if she met him in person?

DiscoDragon · 16/04/2024 14:13

I'm 5ft and I don't believe I've ever met a full-grown man shorter than me! The year 5 & 6 kids at my sons primary school are taller than me!

My DP is 6ft, I didn't go out looking for a man of any particular height and his height was never a factor when starting a relationship with him. Although I will admit that it is nice having someone to reach the things on the high shelves for me!

Goldenbear · 16/04/2024 14:12

C1N1C · 16/04/2024 13:59

It's interesting how many in here are saying they've never heard of it, or that they're surprised it matters, but I'd say a good 50% of comments in here are that they'd never date shorter, they like heels, they need someone to reach the top shelf, my husband is taller and I like it, tall men are more attractive...

So the OP does have a point.

But it does seem like it's one of those acceptable requirements. A woman saying she likes tall men is normal and not really questioned, a man saying he prefers big boobs is shallow. It's funny how there's a filter for one but not the other on dating sites! :)

No they’re not, my 5ft 8 husband is incredibly handsome, my son takes after him in looks, is just under 6ft and has absolutely no problem attracting girls but then again he’s interested in things other than looks, politics, music and is incredibly funny so maybe that is why he hasn’t been written off as just under 6ft🙄

Iamtheoneinten · 16/04/2024 14:11

Moonfishstar · 16/04/2024 13:35

No!

Well, if there's anything I've learnt about the internet, it's that everyone is always honest about who they are......

(Quick someone, close the gate to the incel farm, one of 'em's wandered in)

Begsthequestion · 16/04/2024 14:10

C1N1C · 16/04/2024 14:08

True... but there are a significant number of posts where they state they're tall themselves, or like to wear heels, so nudge over that six-foot point. So in this case, although not true for everyone, the comment still applies.

I'd edit the OP's comment to be more like "while not perhaps a majority, a significant number of women do 'appear' to prefer men over six feet tall, but an overwhelmingly large number (I'd hazard a guess at 90%?) would require a man to at least be teller than themselves"... fair assessment?

The average height for a woman in the UK is 5'4.

So a man needs to be in average 5'5 or more to be taller than his female partner.

So very much not 6ft.

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