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Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…

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Moonfishstar · 16/04/2024 13:08

… and not write off the majority of men who are under 6 foot (85%).

Women seem to be fighting for a small proportion of men - with the disappointment that will inevitably bring to the many who inevitably won’t succeed. Of course, it’s even crapper for the good,
but short, men out there.

Of course, we all fancy who we fancy, and I’m not saying we should date shorter (or even average!) men out of pity or a “sense of fairness”, but how much of women’s desire to bag a tall guy is actually societal, and down to how they think other women will view them?

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minthybobs · 17/04/2024 08:27

Hehe! So it’s ok for you to be with a tall man but other women would benefit from dating short men.

Righty ho. 🤣

PippiLongShockinglyLongWait · 17/04/2024 08:18

That was the best plot twist ever.
I mean, you really jumped the shark there, but the 6'3 husband was hilarious.

Can I berate your choice and ask you to examine your preferences because my husband is shorter than yours?

Honestly op, why can't you just be kind. Get yourself down to the short incel pound and pick up a stray.

RainIsCosy · 17/04/2024 08:16

I want someone who is my intellectual equal, kind, adventurous, considerate, a good conversationalist, shares similar interests. I don't care if he is 5 ft or 6 ft if he meets those needs. I wouldn't want someone who relies on me to support them (different if in a relationship already and illness or accident gets in the way. Then it's just one of those things you support each other with). To start a new relationship though, I don't need another dependent or someone who needs care. I have enough of those already and don't need more work. I need a partner to be a friend and companion outside of those demands. Whatever his height.

Catsmere · 17/04/2024 08:01

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:36

Ok, what have I said which is MRA misogyny.

And yes, I stand by my statement that it is a feminist utopian fantasy to believe that hypergamy isn’t still a real thing, in the same way it would be a feminist utopian fantasy to think there wasn’t an issue with domestic violence against women!

You don't know anything about feminism or feminists if you think any of them would say that!

permanently · 17/04/2024 08:00

OP yes it is odd, as a tallish woman (5'8") to date someone who is of similar height (after dating taller men all of life.) But it's just a new normal and as my colleague advised when I met my future husband, it doesn't matter when you are lying down!

5128gap · 17/04/2024 08:00

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:36

Ok, what have I said which is MRA misogyny.

And yes, I stand by my statement that it is a feminist utopian fantasy to believe that hypergamy isn’t still a real thing, in the same way it would be a feminist utopian fantasy to think there wasn’t an issue with domestic violence against women!

The reason you come across as MRA/ incel like OP is that you started the thread in the first place. With the exception of a few mothers of short sons who are worried about their dating prospects (unnecessarily, as while they may not have their pick, if they're a nice lad, they will find a partner, just like the vast majority of short men do) there is no healthy reason for a woman to want to sell short men to other women.
Your premis that women will 'benefit' is ridiculous as there can be few women who don't already realise that imposing a height limit restricts their dating pool, and if they can't find a tall man will have to compromise or remain single. To believe women need that pointing out assumes a level of stupidity that is based in misogyny.
As for it being 'crap' for short men, your expectation that a group of women should care enough about the feelings of theoretical short men to change their dating preference is a typical of MRA....you are upsetting us with your choices, so you need to make different ones so we're not upset. Because our feelings are more important than what you want.

silentassassin · 17/04/2024 07:52

Well, yes, obviously…. I don’t see how that negates my point

Because you literally said it would benefit women to not rule out shorter men. It's really patronising to suggest ways in which women would benefit from dating men they dont actually find attractive when you yourself are dating someone tall but thats ok because "he's great". Why do you assume other women arent dating tall men also because they are "great". Its not a crime to find someone attractive, if you are having sex with them, its essential.

Noirdesir · 17/04/2024 07:45

I have tried to unpick any prejudices that have needlessly narrowed my dating pool, as I’ve already mentioned about tattoos

tattoos but not with height it seems......

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:45

silentassassin · 17/04/2024 07:42

Because it would be ridiculous to reject a great taller man and focus on finding a shorter man just to make a point 🤷‍♀️

That also applies to others then. I've only dated tall men over 6 ft and they've been great guys so why would I look for someone shorter to make a point?

Well, yes, obviously…. I don’t see how that negates my point.

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Desecratedcoconut · 17/04/2024 07:44

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:30

I have tried to unpick any prejudices that have needlessly narrowed my dating pool, as I’ve already mentioned about tattoos.

This is such an affectation of online dating. Where the dating pool is a database and your particular bit of it is what remains when you exclude a bunch of characteristics. And, on finding that pool a little - centre parcs lagoon at half term - you convince yourself that you are doing something kind and benevolent by extending your parameters to find some clear water.

It all sounds a bit grotty to me. Can I suggest living your life and throwing the glad eye when you see someone you fancy?

Sweden99 · 17/04/2024 07:43

As a man, women thought I was about 5'8" when I was poor and I shot up to 6' when I became well off.
I am between 5'10 and 5'11" and always put the lower one on OLD.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/04/2024 07:43

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:41

Or possibly, just possibly, a woman who wanted to consider the possibility that some women may have a height criteria that is needlessly strict.

Possibly, but you're not.

Astariel · 17/04/2024 07:43

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:38

I missed out a key word - apologies.

I was just wondering whether some women were needlessly excluding shorter men

Your assumption was very clearly that they do. And you’ve claimed lots of evidence to prove that it’s true as well.

The thing about dating is that absolutely no one owes anyone a date (or anything following from that). People can ‘exclude’ on any basis they like - however silly that might be.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/04/2024 07:42

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:38

I missed out a key word - apologies.

I was just wondering whether some women were needlessly excluding shorter men

Well that's their lookout. They'll either find what they want, or they won't, and then they'll decide for themselves whether they're prepared to compromise on it. You don't need to go on a mission to save women who like tall men from themselves.

silentassassin · 17/04/2024 07:42

Because it would be ridiculous to reject a great taller man and focus on finding a shorter man just to make a point 🤷‍♀️

That also applies to others then. I've only dated tall men over 6 ft and they've been great guys so why would I look for someone shorter to make a point?

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:41

Astariel · 17/04/2024 07:36

Maybe you’re bisexual.

Or possibly, just possibly, a woman who wanted to consider the possibility that some women may have a height criteria that is needlessly strict.

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Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:38

Astariel · 17/04/2024 07:34

I was just wondering some women were needlessly excluding shorter men

In what way is that not saying that women needlessly exclude shorter men?

I missed out a key word - apologies.

I was just wondering whether some women were needlessly excluding shorter men

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trainboundfornowhere · 17/04/2024 07:37

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:27

I was referring previously to the impact of dating apps on the realities of dating, which is a far broader issue than hypergamy…

I met my husband through OLD and despite what people say on their profiles the reality is often very different. DH stated he wanted to find a woman with a university degree as he wanted someone who could challenge him intellectually. I don’t have a university degree whilst he has two but I challenge him intellectually and made him eat his words as he thought only someone with a degree would think like and have the same ideals and values as him.

Astariel · 17/04/2024 07:36

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:11

Come on, that’s absurd… if I was a gay man in a relationship, how could i simultaneously be bitter about how women were rejecting me for being short? 😂

Maybe you’re bisexual.

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:36

Catsmere · 17/04/2024 07:31

Yet you led with that nonsense. And nonsense it is, as later posters have pointed out. Why are you trotting out all this MRA misogyny and sniping about "feminist utopian fantasy"? Do you think women's liberation is a bad idea? The whole premise of your posts suggest it. It reeks of Be Kind, which does women no favours at all. Even needing economic security is something to criticise. Maybe address your attention to the wage gap instead.

Ok, what have I said which is MRA misogyny.

And yes, I stand by my statement that it is a feminist utopian fantasy to believe that hypergamy isn’t still a real thing, in the same way it would be a feminist utopian fantasy to think there wasn’t an issue with domestic violence against women!

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Astariel · 17/04/2024 07:34

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:04

Sigh. I never said “nasty women needlessly exclude shorter men”… try reading my posts!

I was just wondering some women were needlessly excluding shorter men

In what way is that not saying that women needlessly exclude shorter men?

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:32

NashvilleQueen · 17/04/2024 07:17

AIBU thinking that men would benefit if they were more open minded about weight/being a similar age in a potential partner ...

It's a standard dating trope isn't it? Women want tall men. Men want thin women who are younger than them. Anyone with strict criteria about physical characteristics undoubtedly misses out on potential partners.

But on your point there was an article in the Guardian a few weeks ago https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/22/i-will-never-understand-heterosexual-dating-cultures-obsession-with-height-just-get-a-footstool

As the article demonstrates, the idea that you have to be an incel to think this is a “thing” amongst many women is ridiculous.

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Catsmere · 17/04/2024 07:31

Yet you led with that nonsense. And nonsense it is, as later posters have pointed out. Why are you trotting out all this MRA misogyny and sniping about "feminist utopian fantasy"? Do you think women's liberation is a bad idea? The whole premise of your posts suggest it. It reeks of Be Kind, which does women no favours at all. Even needing economic security is something to criticise. Maybe address your attention to the wage gap instead.

Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:30

silentassassin · 17/04/2024 07:21

Describing women not finding something attractive in a man as a hang up suggests that it's something they might need to work through to be more available and open to more men. It feels a little off to me, "women you're not obligated to date men you're not a attracted to, but have you considered working on yourself first

I agree with this. OP- did you unpick your prejudices and have a proper period of self examination before you got together with your 6'3" partner?

I have tried to unpick any prejudices that have needlessly narrowed my dating pool, as I’ve already mentioned about tattoos.

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Moonfishstar · 17/04/2024 07:29

silentassassin · 17/04/2024 07:18

If it would benefit women to look beyond height then why didnt you?

Because it would be ridiculous to reject a great taller man and focus on finding a shorter man just to make a point 🤷‍♀️

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