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To not use credit card DP has issued in my name

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Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:09

Not sure if AIBU because I get defensive around money so please can I get your view. DP and I have mostly separate finances (we've been together 10 years and have 1 DC). We have a shared joint account that we both put money into for mortgage and living costs, school clubs etc. Everything else is separate.

I have the following bank accounts/debit cards in regular use:
Current account
Joint account
Additional current account for transactions abroad ie on holiday
Business account (I am self-employed)
Plus I have a credit card he made me take out years ago that I never use because I hate credit cards and would rather not use them. He knows this.

So this morning he presents me with an Amex card that he's taken out with my name on it which he wants me to use for all spending from now on so we can get free flights or something. His idea is I would just use it to buy things and then transfer him the money. My immediate reaction was hell no! In the end I agreed to use it for stuff that I would normally spend from the joint account but even that makes me feel uncomfortable. He'll be responsible for taking the money out of the joint account to pay off the credit card so I won't have to do anything but it feels like a loss of control to me. He thinks I'm being ridiculous.

For reference he is good with money and trustworthy so it's not that I suspect he's up to no good - it just feels like an overstep to me.

Would I be unreasonable to refuse to use this or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?

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SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:38

Maray1967 · 16/04/2024 11:34

What is normal appears to be slamming everything on credit cards and feeling ok because you always pay the balance - but you are also almost certainly spending more than you would if you used debit cards or cash.

There is also the moral argument that the majority of credit card profits that enable the providers to give cashback etc come not from the retailer fees but from the interest that poorer people end up paying when they get into a mess with credit cards.

I have one cc which I use on holiday if I can’t use my debit card without transaction fees, but if I can find a debit card that does that then I’ll switch to that.

I’ve weaned myself off normal home spending using credit and am spending less. If my DH told me he expected me to use one he would get an earful.

I’ve learned a lot from Dave Ramsey. Nobody builds wealth collecting air miles or cash back. You do it by budgeting carefully and not being tempted to buy what you don’t really need. Since I’ve sorted myself out I’ve saved loads more than I used to get on cc cash back schemes.

I mean, it's possible to budget everything carefully AND use credit cards. I just use mine like a debit card, I don't spend more on it.

Blueroses99 · 16/04/2024 11:37

My husband and I have always done this and love the free flights! I think it’s much safer to use credit rather than debit cards to pay for things (scammers can’t get your actually money with a CC) and doesn’t get you into trouble if you pay the balance off every month.

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:37

What is normal appears to be slamming everything on credit cards and feeling ok because you always pay the balance - but you are also almost certainly spending more than you would if you used debit cards or cash

Speak for yourself. To me, the decision to buy something is completely separate to how I pay for it. Because I'm still paying for it whether the money comes out of my account today, or in a month's time when the credit card bill is paid.

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:36

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:31

Oh, so it's a lot bigger than this.

You could get a card to use for your business spending and get cashback on that. I don't know why you wouldn't.

However, when you have a child together, you absolutely shouldn't be in a position where you have no money to spend on you while he has loads.

Let me guess, you're SE 'to fit round DC, childcare, domestic stuff' while he's free to work when he wants? Plus what does your pension look like compared to his?

That's what you need to tackle with him, not the credit card issue.

Lol yes to some extent. I'm actually self-employed because I want to be but it does mean a lot of the domestic stuff falls to me, yes. And because he earns so much more the importance of my job pales in comparison even though I'm busting my balls to get my business to succeed. And yes my pension is weency compared to his. I just figure if I work really hard eventually I'll make more money and things will even out.

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/04/2024 11:36

Precipice · 16/04/2024 11:28

Ah edit because I spotted you’ve now said its actually in his name, I don’t see an issue really then. If it's an additional card to his own, while he may be liable for the debt, he'll also be able to see all her spending. It's not at all in keeping with the idea of separate accounts. No wonder OP isn't comfortable with this.

The way he went around it is unacceptable too. When he had this idea, he should have suggested it to OP and then they could have discussed it. Instead he presented her with the card and expected her to change her way of paying to the card. All on his wishes and expectations.

It’s a bit irrelevant though because OP then says about using it for stuff that would normally be spent from the joint account anyway, so if he was that bothered about seeing her spending he could just as easily view it in the joint account. The only difference with the Amex is that they’ll actually be getting something back for the money spent?

It doesn’t cost any extra, the card & resulting debt is in his name, he’s going to be the one doing the admin for paying it off each money, and they’ll get benefits back from using it. Under those circs I don’t really see the issue with simply paying with a different card

Idontjetwashthefucker · 16/04/2024 11:35

as I have very little spare cash (whereas he has tonnes)

Why is this?

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:34

SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:30

Because you pay for everything a month later so it sits in your savings earning for you.

Plus you also borrow it at 0% and put it in a savings account paying 5%. £12k like that is £600 interest earned per year.

Plus about £300 pa in cashback just due to paying for groceries, fuel, work expenses and other normal spending like clothes, holidays, meals out etc on credit card that's then paid off in full every month.

Maray1967 · 16/04/2024 11:34

SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:23

This.

Do you have a history of you or someone close to you having issues with debt? This is a really normal thing to do so this reaction feels super extreme.

What is normal appears to be slamming everything on credit cards and feeling ok because you always pay the balance - but you are also almost certainly spending more than you would if you used debit cards or cash.

There is also the moral argument that the majority of credit card profits that enable the providers to give cashback etc come not from the retailer fees but from the interest that poorer people end up paying when they get into a mess with credit cards.

I have one cc which I use on holiday if I can’t use my debit card without transaction fees, but if I can find a debit card that does that then I’ll switch to that.

I’ve weaned myself off normal home spending using credit and am spending less. If my DH told me he expected me to use one he would get an earful.

I’ve learned a lot from Dave Ramsey. Nobody builds wealth collecting air miles or cash back. You do it by budgeting carefully and not being tempted to buy what you don’t really need. Since I’ve sorted myself out I’ve saved loads more than I used to get on cc cash back schemes.

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:33

WalkingThroughTreacle · 16/04/2024 11:28

I don't see the issue unless he has a tendency to question your spending when it's none of his business. In that case, using his AMEX would give him visibility of your purchases and could be used against you if he has tendencies towards controlling behaviour. Otherwise it's no big deal but if you really don't want to then he should accept that in good grace and leave it be.

No he doesn't question my spending but then he would never have cause too as I'm scrupulous about spending fairly eg if I accidentally use the joint account for something personal (google wallet on phone might pick up wrong card for example) then I transfer that money straight over from my personal account.

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SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:33

Nope. In fact OP could run up a load of debt is his name on the additional card and it would be all his debt, nothing to do with her.

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:31

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:24

Yeah I don't mind him having one obviously! I just felt really uncomfortable that he was asking me to put all my purchase through this one, especially given most of my purchasing is for my business and has nothing to do with him and my personal spending is minimal as I have very little spare cash (whereas he has tonnes). I guess if he'd lead with: "Can we try this with the joint account?" it wouldn't have got my hackles up so much.

Oh, so it's a lot bigger than this.

You could get a card to use for your business spending and get cashback on that. I don't know why you wouldn't.

However, when you have a child together, you absolutely shouldn't be in a position where you have no money to spend on you while he has loads.

Let me guess, you're SE 'to fit round DC, childcare, domestic stuff' while he's free to work when he wants? Plus what does your pension look like compared to his?

That's what you need to tackle with him, not the credit card issue.

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:30

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 16/04/2024 11:29

my personal spending is minimal as I have very little spare cash (whereas he has tonnes)

That doesn't seem fair.

Ha well that's a different issue...

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SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:30

MILTOBE · 16/04/2024 11:24

How do you make money on interest from a credit card?

Because you pay for everything a month later so it sits in your savings earning for you.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 16/04/2024 11:29

my personal spending is minimal as I have very little spare cash (whereas he has tonnes)

That doesn't seem fair.

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:29

Fraaahnces · 16/04/2024 11:26

Does this mean that his debts are now your debts? (Because you are now linked to his cards?) I would get my name removed assp.

Don't know actually - don't think so? TBF he's unlikely to get into debt - he's got far more money than me and he's careful with it.

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WalkingThroughTreacle · 16/04/2024 11:29

Fraaahnces · 16/04/2024 11:26

Does this mean that his debts are now your debts? (Because you are now linked to his cards?) I would get my name removed assp.

That's not applicable for an additional card holder. It is not the same as a joint account so no financial linking.

Precipice · 16/04/2024 11:28

Ah edit because I spotted you’ve now said its actually in his name, I don’t see an issue really then. If it's an additional card to his own, while he may be liable for the debt, he'll also be able to see all her spending. It's not at all in keeping with the idea of separate accounts. No wonder OP isn't comfortable with this.

The way he went around it is unacceptable too. When he had this idea, he should have suggested it to OP and then they could have discussed it. Instead he presented her with the card and expected her to change her way of paying to the card. All on his wishes and expectations.

Peridot1 · 16/04/2024 11:28

We use credit cards for day to day spending and I know quite a few people who use Amex purely for the Avios points. It can definitely be worth it.

If he is trustworthy and good with money then I wouldn’t see a problem. Although obviously it might have been better if he discussed it with you rather than just presenting you with the card.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 16/04/2024 11:28

I don't see the issue unless he has a tendency to question your spending when it's none of his business. In that case, using his AMEX would give him visibility of your purchases and could be used against you if he has tendencies towards controlling behaviour. Otherwise it's no big deal but if you really don't want to then he should accept that in good grace and leave it be.

Fraaahnces · 16/04/2024 11:26

Does this mean that his debts are now your debts? (Because you are now linked to his cards?) I would get my name removed assp.

Samlewis96 · 16/04/2024 11:25

Oh wow I just buy everything on my partners Amex and transfer him to money as we get lots of avios from doing so. Hence pays for costs of flights we take. No idea why you wouldn't tbh. Where's the risk to yourself?

Oh and we don't live together and my ex husband was bankrupt

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:25

SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:23

This.

Do you have a history of you or someone close to you having issues with debt? This is a really normal thing to do so this reaction feels super extreme.

Yes, my father had credit card debt during my childhood

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MILTOBE · 16/04/2024 11:24

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:17

Well if you're happy to throw away free money then fine. I make nearly a grand a year in interest and cashback from credit cards.

Your aversion to just using a different card while he does the behind the scenes admin does seem rather extreme.

How do you make money on interest from a credit card?

Passthegin99 · 16/04/2024 11:24

Hoppinggreen · 16/04/2024 11:20

It really does depend on your individual circumstances.
I dont like Credit cards after I got into a lot of trouble with them some years ago so dont have one BUT DH does. He uses it to get cashback and then its paid off in full each month. He has offered to get me an additional card (which I think thats what your DH has done) but I have said no. If we are booking holidays or flights I get him to pay using that card.

Yeah I don't mind him having one obviously! I just felt really uncomfortable that he was asking me to put all my purchase through this one, especially given most of my purchasing is for my business and has nothing to do with him and my personal spending is minimal as I have very little spare cash (whereas he has tonnes). I guess if he'd lead with: "Can we try this with the joint account?" it wouldn't have got my hackles up so much.

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SapphireOpal · 16/04/2024 11:23

Bjorkdidit · 16/04/2024 11:17

Well if you're happy to throw away free money then fine. I make nearly a grand a year in interest and cashback from credit cards.

Your aversion to just using a different card while he does the behind the scenes admin does seem rather extreme.

This.

Do you have a history of you or someone close to you having issues with debt? This is a really normal thing to do so this reaction feels super extreme.

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