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Liz Truss - what's going on there?

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catPA · 16/04/2024 07:01

Just watched her recent interview with Chris Mason on Newscast. Something is most definitely 'off.' Not just what she says, but her hand and facial expressions are peculiar - as if she's possibly medicated or drunk? She is in total denial - no surprise there - but just so odd. It's actually quite disturbing to watch. AIBU?

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RandomButtons · 16/04/2024 08:45

Changedforthisthread1 · 16/04/2024 08:24

Lizz Truss hands and facial expressions have always been a bit, well, odd.

When I need a laugh or cheering up, I find watching her "Cheese" speech very entertaining 😅

You know those loons who think the royals are lizards? Makes me think of that. Very bad actor.

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 08:43

I think they need to stop interviewing her tbh. The woman is clearly very unwell, and while the interviews are strangely compelling to watch, they're essentially exploiting her mental health problems to make interesting TV. It's like a modern day freak show.

I feel terribly sorry for her teenage children having to watch her publicly unravelling. It must be devastating.

Havanananana · 16/04/2024 08:41

I heard she's broke, stony broke, hence the book.

Hard to believe. She gets £91,346 as an MP, plus expenses to cover her office and the rental of accommodation in London. She gets an additional £115,000 a year for life as a former Prime Minister. Perhaps at the next GE her constituants can ask themselves when they last saw her in Swaffham or Thetford, and what exactly she has done to improve their lot.

On top of this, there are her appearance fees for speaking at the conferences of various right-wing organisations in the UK and not least in the US, which look like being her main grift.

The book is published by Biteback Publishing, a company owned by billionaire Lord Ashcroft, who also happens to be one of the largest donors (we're talking millions) to the Conservative party, despite not living in the UK and preferring to live in an off-shore tax haven. Even if nobody buys a single copy, Truss is no doubt going to be well paid for her thoughts.

Changedforthisthread1 · 16/04/2024 08:24

Lizz Truss hands and facial expressions have always been a bit, well, odd.

When I need a laugh or cheering up, I find watching her "Cheese" speech very entertaining 😅

When Liz Truss branded Britain’s level of cheese imports ‘a disgrace’

Conservative MP talked up UK produce in 2014 as environment, food and rural affairs minister

https://youtu.be/aj49CogLemQ?si=CCMsgoBfWYyusrrn

Whenwillitgetwarm · 16/04/2024 08:24

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 08:13

That's very simple - Tory racists didn't want Rishi until they had no choice.

I think it was probably a bit more nuanced than just race. I think some members may have been suspicious of him as he came out of nowhere and was parachuted into a safe seat because his father in law knew David Cameron. Also despite him having a slick PR machine at the time, he was a shit chancellor. Yes Truss cost us a lot of money but Sunak wasted and wrote off billions in Covid debts including fraud and PPE.

Sunak has also cost us unbelievable amounts. It’s been brushed under the carpet though because Truss’s losses were quicker and more obvious, but the pound was tanking and inflation and debt were shooting yo before she became PM. It started under Sunak being chancellor.

During the contest, Truss was singing music to Tory ears about reigniting our economy. Many of them thought it was the second coming of Thatcher. Remember they were all praising her budget before it went wrong, saying it was a ‘true Conservative budget’.

LakieLady · 16/04/2024 08:21

CantDealwithChristmas · 16/04/2024 07:40

Don't know about meds but I heard she's broke, stony broke, hence the book.

If she's broke on an MP's salary of >£90k, plus expenses, it's no wonder that she let Kwarteng crash the economy, she plainly hasn't got a clue about money.

She's entitled to a £115k pa pension as a former PM, too, but I don't know if she can get that while she's still an MP.

Bruisername · 16/04/2024 08:18

She is trying to position herself for the American market - that’s where the money is if she can get on the big speaker tours and become a pundit on Fox News

Rishi was too moderate - the right of the party were on a high and thought they could use her to get their way on things but it backfired and they had to retreat with tail between legs and accept sunak

unfortunately the modern generation of politicians are poor - of all parties tbh. Voting should never be about picking the least worse option!!

JoJothegerbil · 16/04/2024 08:18

I didn't watch, but listened to the podcast instead. The woman is a lunatic, a dangerous lunatic, and should never be let anywhere near power ever again. There's definitely something slightly unhinged about her. Absolutely no self-awareness or humility. Classic narcissist.

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 08:18

CantDealwithChristmas · 16/04/2024 07:40

Don't know about meds but I heard she's broke, stony broke, hence the book.

Hard to see how, she is getting paid vast sums (by most people's standards) at our expense. If she can't survive on that she needs to cut her cloth accordingly like the rest of us have had to due to her fuck up.

Havanananana · 16/04/2024 08:17

@the80sweregreat However, she still won and it makes me wonder how. Why didn't they vote for Rishi Sunak back then?

The Conservative MPs actually voted for Sunak, but when the vote was put to the membership, they preferred Truss. They liked her Thatcher tribute act - and there's something about Sunak that they didn't like... (The membership were not offered the chance to vote on Truss' successor as there was only one candidate, Sunak).

For all that there are many who think that Conservative MPs are a bunch of dimwitted nodding dogs, even they had the insight and first-hand knowledge of Truss to see that she'd be a disaster as PM.

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 08:16

babybythesea · 16/04/2024 08:14

She also thinks that the OBR should be ditched and that the Bank of England has too much power over money. She says there’s too many officials with too much power and no accountability. She wants politicians more in charge.
People like her apparently, with no clue how it works but having free rein to do what they want, totally driven by party politics and unfettered by people who do actually understand.

And get rid of the Supreme Court and leave the ECHR.

Essentially she’s the ultimate narcissist- get rid of anyone who opposes my ideas. Next step dictatorship!

In that respect she is doing the role of the cosplay Thatcher she's always aspired to. Thatcher loved democracy and the rule of law as long as they went along with her.

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 08:14

Readytoevolve · 16/04/2024 08:13

Please don’t buy her book.
I can’t tell you how much that woman cost us!! We had just put our house for sale when she drove up interest rates. It was a total nightmare.

Indeed she fucked up my Pension too.

babybythesea · 16/04/2024 08:14

She also thinks that the OBR should be ditched and that the Bank of England has too much power over money. She says there’s too many officials with too much power and no accountability. She wants politicians more in charge.
People like her apparently, with no clue how it works but having free rein to do what they want, totally driven by party politics and unfettered by people who do actually understand.

And get rid of the Supreme Court and leave the ECHR.

Essentially she’s the ultimate narcissist- get rid of anyone who opposes my ideas. Next step dictatorship!

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 08:13

TomeTome · 16/04/2024 07:36

I think we should all feel lucky she’s no longer in power but question how and why she was there in the first place.

That's very simple - Tory racists didn't want Rishi until they had no choice.

Readytoevolve · 16/04/2024 08:13

Please don’t buy her book.
I can’t tell you how much that woman cost us!! We had just put our house for sale when she drove up interest rates. It was a total nightmare.

TTPD · 16/04/2024 08:10

Gunpowder · 16/04/2024 07:48

I’m listening to the interview rather than watching. I disagree with 95% of what she says but she doesn’t come across as drunk/medicated without the visual. How interesting! Will watch later.

I've only seen the 1 min clip I posted upthread. I think she seems off there, but it may not be representative of the whole thing

SheepAndSword · 16/04/2024 08:06

I might have to watch this now...as much of it as I can take

CantDealwithChristmas · 16/04/2024 08:05

the80sweregreat · 16/04/2024 07:40

The irony is she received a lot of support from the conservatives and the 1922 committee and ones who could vote for her during those many weeks of campaigning to be PM back in 2022 , and it was obvious then from watching her interviews and the hustings on tv that she wasn't quite with it at times and would be weak.
However, she still won and it makes me wonder how. Why didn't they vote for Rishi Sunak back then? I know it wasn't a landslide for her , but people still thought she'd make a better PM.
It's sad she was the Queen's very last PM when she had served with 14 others before who were much more competent than she turned out to be across all the political parties.

They didn't want a Person of Colour to be PM. Simples.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 16/04/2024 08:05

She’s what true believer libertarianism looks like. She’s the front for all of those American think tanks who’ve been successfully destroying our country since the Brexit vote.

Plus she’s cray cray.

RandomButtons · 16/04/2024 08:01

Meadowfinch · 16/04/2024 07:52

You're right OP, there's something not 'balanced' about her. She's completely unaware of what's around her.

Her being appointed leader was the only time I've ever written to my MP in horror.

Only time I’ve agreed with my conservative MP when he wrote an open letter to the government in horror.

Thepeopleversuswork · 16/04/2024 07:57

I didn’t particularly get the impression she was drunk, just that she’s a massive narcissist (and I know the word is overused but in her case I think it’s absolutely appropriate) and has no self awareness whatsoever.

I have never met her but I would bet she is always like this.

Utterly embarrassing.

user1493222657 · 16/04/2024 07:56

Why is she getting any attention or screen space- I really don't understand who wants to hear her opinions on anything. I never click on any links to do with her!

Teddleshon · 16/04/2024 07:55

I always thought she was deeply weird. Very much like Chris Mason though!

Meadowfinch · 16/04/2024 07:52

You're right OP, there's something not 'balanced' about her. She's completely unaware of what's around her.

Her being appointed leader was the only time I've ever written to my MP in horror.

Candleabra · 16/04/2024 07:49

She sounds desperate to me. Sales of her book depend on publicity and she’s raising the profile by making the most outrageous statements she possibly can.

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