Liz Truss - what's going on there?

Cos their grassroots still have a boner for Maggie T and thought Liz would be the new Maggie T

Kind of like some of the Labour grassroots have a hard-on for Lenin and thought Jezza Corbyn was Christ incarnate

Grassroots members are often nutty (Spekaing as a Labour member from 2000 - 2015) which is why it's ironic they get to decide leaders

Realistically speaking the Tory contest was between Rishi and Liz and I think the grassroots i the Shires freaked out at the thought of a Person of Colour being PM whilst also salivating at the idea of Maggie Mark 2 which is how she explicitly sold herself

Yes I agree, you wonder who is behind her saying go on Liz you are right rather than do you think Liz you may need to rethink your career.

I'd like some of the confidence/ bounce backability (although who is to say she isn't a crying mess behind closed doors) but not if it means I am mentally ill or have a personality disorder.

I suppose though we are used to delusional male politicians Trump for example, is it more jarring because it's a woman and we (well some of us who are female) are relating to her as women.

But there were other candidates too apart from Liz and Rishi. Why Liz was the most popular with Tories despite other candidates?

The humiliation of her failings broke something in her. She's a deplorable cunt so couldn't accept that the failings might be her fault so has to invent deep state globalist boogeymen to blame and is now happy to take refuge in whatever racist crackpot conspiracy port will have her

But I think she is genuinely delusional. I think she actually believes that she is some sort of genius that has been unjustly thwarted.

The woman is clearly unwell. She should never have been put in the position of PM in the first place, as she clearly wasn't suitable.

The people who suffered as a result of her catastrophic period as PM should not blame a woman who is showing clear signs of mental illness and has no grasp on reality. They should instead blame the Tory party members who put her in that position despite ample evidence that she was wholly unsuited for the role from the start.

Have just seen the final few minutes of a BBC Newscast interview if that's the one being discussed and her delivery is interesting. I'd be interested what she was doing for a few hours before the interview.

... and who will be paying for it for decades to come.

Some colleagues have "lost" tens of thousand of pound a year thanks to higher mortgages.

The narrative appears to be that we - the people - are just too stupid to appreciate her genius.

I really CBA, but maybe someone who can might confirm my suspicion that nestled in her prose is a hint that "some people" may need to be "re-educated" as to her obvious brilliance.

I just keep remembering all the people suffering financially as a result of her ego and madness. She's hideous.

A part of me is also intrigued by it. That anyone could possibly have so little humility or shame is strangely fascinating.

However, I also believe that she is like this because she is delusional. I think she has utterly lost her grip on reality. And I'm uncomfortable with the idea of us all watching her in this state as if it were some kind of spectator sport. It feels cruel.

You can watch the whole interview on iplayer. She really is quite an odd person. She certainly enjoyed talking about Taylor Swift there.

Perhaps her choice was to stay silent and leave the narrative to be perceived to be a most spectacular self-inflicted car crash or to say 'I was always right. The deep state frustrated me. OBR and the BoE need to be abolished. Tax cuts are the answer even though the UK would, in effect, be borrowing more to fund them and the UK's major problems for the last 14 years are under-investment and focusing the economy on enriching the wealthiest 1%. In effect, to sing to the cohort of MPs and Conservative Party members who supported her and to spice things up with Trump/MAGA-focused statements about the deep state and Trump that will make her US speaking tour fees and book sales increase astronomically.

I admire it to, well am more absolutely intrigued by it and want some of it.

Does Liz Truss have diabetes? I know Theresa May does, so perhaps that's a mix up?

MsLuxLisbon · Today 10:19

I have it on good authority that she is a (barely) functioning alcoholic.

its possible that her diabetes is poorly controlled, the one can be mistaken for the other....not defending her though.

"I heard she got a £1,500 advance for her book."

Indeed - that is what she has declared under her obligations to Parliament to declare any outside income. Whether there is more to come, or if her income is dependent on sales, is not known.

This might confirm the suspicion that she's actually a hopeless negotiator, as witnessed by the appalling deals that she signed with Australia and New Zealand - deals that will severely damage much of British agriculture whilst providing a net gain in trade of next to nothing for the UK.

Truss represents a largely rural constituency. It is said that if you stand in Thetford Forest on a still, moonlit night, you can hear the Australians laughing their arses off at the concessions that they got from Truss without even asking for them.

That just goes to show how the Tories have lost or kicked out all their talented, competent, sensible people.

@Coffeeismysaviour* *
It's a rehabilitation scheme for oddballs, weirdos and the permanently angry.

Perfectly put.

Presumably because the more racist Tory party members didn’t want a brown PM.

I woke up this morning and it suddenly hit me that this latest rush of Tory PMs all seem to be doing the job as a side hussle. Theresa May was the last one who seemed to consider it a full time job.

This recent shower are like the person in the office who is always at the dentist. If they're not churning out a book, making a couple of (tax-efficient?) million out of their family business or choosing wallpaper they're fitting underfloor heating in their stable block or selecting appropriate cosplay for a visit to an over-budget government construction project.

They have to squeeze running the country into the couple of hours between speaking at CPAC and writing their Daily Mail column.

This would make sense if true.

I wish I had your confidence. Some Tories backed her and they seem to be still backing her. Just like they are backing the Suella Braverman who "cried with joy" at her Ruanda plan. It's a mistake to underestimate the stupidity of some people.

You're quite right.

Braverman was third rate barrister without talent going nowhere. The Conservative Party transformed her into The Right Honourable Suella Braverman MP KC, ex holder of a Great Office of State.

Anderson was an embittered Labour activist who couldn't achieve promotion for his lack of ability. The Conservative Party made him deputy chair.

It's a rehabilitation scheme for oddballs, weirdos and the permanently angry.

I am sure there are Tory party members in this forum who voted for her.
Please can you tell us why, I am genuinely interested.

I understand it.
To protect her vanity she had to blame everyone else.
Now she truly believes everyone is wrong except her.