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Liz Truss - what's going on there?

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catPA · 16/04/2024 07:01

Just watched her recent interview with Chris Mason on Newscast. Something is most definitely 'off.' Not just what she says, but her hand and facial expressions are peculiar - as if she's possibly medicated or drunk? She is in total denial - no surprise there - but just so odd. It's actually quite disturbing to watch. AIBU?

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SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 13:28

JoJothegerbil · 16/04/2024 13:25

Amazon have limited reviews to only verified purchases. However a few got in quickly. The 5 star one has got to be a friend of her's though!

https://amzn.eu/d/363Ci7r

It's tempting to jailbreak the Kindle version and email a copy to every household in the UK. After all we effectively bankrolled it. And then some.

Alternatively wait 24 hours for it to appear in charity shops. Assuming it can level a trestle table.

JoJothegerbil · 16/04/2024 13:25

Amazon have limited reviews to only verified purchases. However a few got in quickly. The 5 star one has got to be a friend of her's though!

https://amzn.eu/d/363Ci7r

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/04/2024 13:20

Sunak got some of his backers to support Truss because he fancied his chances against her rather than Mordaunt. That's how she got on the ballot.

Truss is utterly delusional. Maybe she is an alcoholic. Her refusal to take any responsibility, blame everyone else and sense of victimhood would make sense.

exiledfromcornwall · 16/04/2024 12:57

I feel so sad for the Queen that the last photograph of her was shaking hands with Liz Truss.

I once read an article in the Sunday Times about Truss' time as Foreign Secretary. She came across as self-absorbed and totally batshit. Apparently she was always arranging photo shoots with her as the star. I remember a particularly hilarious photo of her on top of a tank doing a Margaret Thatcher.

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:39

One way of looking at the Truss days, is that they were a Tory punishment for the whole UK as a result of daring not to pick Rishi, who may have been the "correct" candidate they wanted all along.

DuchessOfSausage · 16/04/2024 12:37

However, she still won and it makes me wonder how. Why didn't they vote for Rishi Sunak back then? I know it wasn't a landslide for her , but people still thought she'd make a better PM.
Not people but people in the Conservative Party, They thought she'd be easier to control than Sunak.

godmum56 · 16/04/2024 12:33

MarilynBoo · 16/04/2024 11:28

Does Liz Truss have diabetes? I know Theresa May does, so perhaps that's a mix up?

that's my brain getting mixed up!

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:32

The far into the game, the propriety or otherwise of a serving elected UK politician actively campaigning for a (potential) candidate in another democracy should be a national scandal.

Farage and Johnson - not being elected - have a fig leaf.

Personally I think we'd solve a fucktonne of problems if people who aren't elected don't get a platform*. Certainly not on the BBC.

*I could probably state it a little clearer.

BIossomtoes · 16/04/2024 12:31

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 12:22

It's a shocking but unsurprising indictment of our country that with all the issues we face, we are paying people to go fucking about with fucking swords. What a load of shit.

We’re not, are we? Mordaunt is paid to be an MP, the fucking about with a sword was a once in 70 years add on to her duties.

Chatonette · 16/04/2024 12:27

She’s lost the plot. She shared a stage with Steve Bannon the other week. STEVE BANNON. What…was Tommy Robinson not available that day?!?!

LoobyDop · 16/04/2024 12:25

Undertherockpool · 16/04/2024 10:31

Agree. They are all such appalling people. Every time I see Suella Braverman I am appalled she has a public platform. Liz Truss, Priti Patel, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnston to. Do they think we have the memory of a goldfish? I mean Rishi Sunak is appalling too, but the rest of them are in a different league.

Nearly all the sane and decent ones were driven out by BJ- remember he removed the whip from dozens of them when they tried to stop him proroguing Parliament, and then I think had a lot of them deselected at the 2019 election, or they saw the writing on the wall and quit.

Rattatoille · 16/04/2024 12:23

I heard that all ex prime ministers in UK are entitled to £150,000 per annum for life. Apparently there was a campaign at Westminster to prevent Ms Truss from receiving it, hope she is entitled to nothing.

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 12:22

TTPD · 16/04/2024 07:44

It's sad she was the Queen's very last PM when she had served with 14 others before who were much more competent than she turned out to be across all the political parties.

The only thing about that that makes me smile is that she gave Penny Mordaunt whatever position it was that meant she had to hold that sword, and be part of the other official stuff.
If the queen had died a few weeks earlier, Jacob Rees-Mogg was in that position, and would have been the one to do that, and I love that fact that you just know he's fuming that it wasn't him.

It's a shocking but unsurprising indictment of our country that with all the issues we face, we are paying people to go fucking about with fucking swords. What a load of shit.

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:19

Dibilnik · 16/04/2024 12:12

I don't think she seems drunk. I've worked with people like this and the best way to describe them is "delusionally self-confident." Drink has the same effect, but some people don't need alcohol to achieve this.

Personally anytime I have considered a medical reason for someone being a cunt, it's always been disproved.

That said - and for balance and fairness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndrome

Auto-brewery syndrome - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndrome

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:15

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 12:10

No, you're right. Hopefully, the public will blame the Tory party as a whole and not just one delusional woman.

Don't underestimate the power of the press to reframe history - like with Brexit, Liz Truss is being portrayed as something that "just happened" to the UK, like a flood or an earthquake (or covid so they can rinse us with stories of vaccine success) that the plucky little Tories have managed to deal with. Earning a nations eternal gratitude.

No need to mention quite how Liz Truss happened now, is there ? Oh look ! Angela Rayner.

Dibilnik · 16/04/2024 12:12

TTPD · 16/04/2024 07:23

I've just seen a clip from that interview and she does genuinely seem a little bit drunk.

x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1779980028547121157?s=46&t=5Dtkn4wJVUEoODNwWvtUMQ

I don't think she seems drunk. I've worked with people like this and the best way to describe them is "delusionally self-confident." Drink has the same effect, but some people don't need alcohol to achieve this.

Redpaisley · 16/04/2024 12:10

Havanananana · 16/04/2024 08:48

"I feel terribly sorry for her teenage children having to watch her publicly unravelling."

She was pro-European in the run-up to the Referendum, expressing concerns about the future that her daughters faced; “I don’t want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe; or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade.”
“Every parent wants their children to grow up in a healthy environment with clean water, fresh air and thriving natural wonders. Being part of the EU helps protect these precious resources and spaces.”

How does she explain her post-Brexit stance to her daughters? How does she explain her journey from Socialist to extreme right-wing PopCon, via the LibDems and the One-Nation Conservatives?

How can someone expect be taken seriously when they change their views according to which way they think the wind is blowing? Or is it all just one big grift?

I hope her daughters are sensible but there is a chance they are okay with it as long as she takes care of their needs and wants. Look at Trump's children. They all support him because they benefit from him.

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 12:10

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:06

The people who suffered as a result of her catastrophic period as PM should not blame a woman who is showing clear signs of mental illness and has no grasp on reality. They should instead blame the Tory party members who put her in that position despite ample evidence that she was wholly unsuited for the role from the start.

There isn't any polling available to show that isn't the case ,,,

No, you're right. Hopefully, the public will blame the Tory party as a whole and not just one delusional woman.

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 12:09

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 12:08

I think there is a huge difference between resilience and bouncing back after acknowledging your mistakes and learning from them, and simply refusing to accept that you ever made any mistakes in the first place.

The first type of person is admirable, I agree. We all make mistakes, and recognising where we have gone wrong/learning from it is a great way of moving forward.

Those who can't contemplate that they might have screwed up are not resilient at all. They are just deluding themselves and hiding from the reality.

And yes, Trump is of the same ilk. I don't think he is psychologically fit for public office either.

BIossomtoes · 16/04/2024 12:08

Redpaisley · 16/04/2024 12:00

But there were other candidates too apart from Liz and Rishi. Why Liz was the most popular with Tories despite other candidates?

She wasn’t. Mordaunt was but the parliamentary party ensured that the membership couldn’t vote for her.

Medschoolmum · 16/04/2024 12:08

TorroFerney · 16/04/2024 12:01

Yes I agree, you wonder who is behind her saying go on Liz you are right rather than do you think Liz you may need to rethink your career.

I'd like some of the confidence/ bounce backability (although who is to say she isn't a crying mess behind closed doors) but not if it means I am mentally ill or have a personality disorder.

I suppose though we are used to delusional male politicians Trump for example, is it more jarring because it's a woman and we (well some of us who are female) are relating to her as women.

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I think there is a huge difference between resilience and bouncing back after acknowledging your mistakes and learning from them, and simply refusing to accept that you ever made any mistakes in the first place.

The first type of person is admirable, I agree. We all make mistakes, and recognising where we have gone wrong/learning from it is a great way of moving forward.

Those who can't contemplate that they might have screwed up are not resilient at all. They are just deluding themselves and hiding from the reality.

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 16/04/2024 12:07

unfortunately the modern generation of politicians are poor - of all parties tbh

This and I worry too about the political journalist trying to convince me they are super smart.

Her and Boris have adversely affected my family and finances and both epitomise the lack of shame in public life these days.

Though Rishi isn't great either how he lost leadership to her and her cosplaying Thatcher to conversative members is just unbelievable.

Zilla1 · 16/04/2024 12:07

I keep meaning to get hold of the Daily Mail front page before her mini- budget.

New Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng is set to serve up a tax cuts bonanza in this week’s mini Budget, and could fast-track 1p income tax reduction

Presumably Bonanza related to the American Western TV show, Bonanza, possibly an episode with a devastating attack on the mail/stagecoach, the Cartwright's homestead or cattle herd similar to the budget's catastrophic attack on the publics' finances and the public finances?

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:06

The people who suffered as a result of her catastrophic period as PM should not blame a woman who is showing clear signs of mental illness and has no grasp on reality. They should instead blame the Tory party members who put her in that position despite ample evidence that she was wholly unsuited for the role from the start.

There isn't any polling available to show that isn't the case ,,,

SerendipityJane · 16/04/2024 12:04

But I think she is genuinely delusional. I think she actually believes that she is some sort of genius that has been unjustly thwarted.

I briefly saw a TL;DR headline (possibly MS Starts precis of a Telegraph article) where she opined that anyone who thought she crashed the economy either didn't understand economics, or was acting with "malevolent intent" (the Trumpian ring to that can fuel conspiracists everywhere ...).

She really would walk up a down escalator insisting it was going the wrong way as people passed her.

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