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Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 17:12

Context is DH and I are on the rocks and have been on/off for just under a year. About to start marriage counselling - so my perspective may be off.

DH never remembers people's birthdays or dates really. I've been at work all day, while looking after 4 year old (inset day at school) at home (didn't book it off) and had to do a million and one things, (haircut for kid, take older one to after school class) - all while pretending to be on it with work and emails

I spotted on FB that it was FIL birthday. I messaged DH at 3pm today saying "Just FYI it's your dads birthday today".

DH got home and said "no much use doing the helpful wife thing on 3pm on the day". He said it a little light-heartend but also not so much. I said "well i thought you could at least send him a message" - he said "well, it's a bit rubbish isn't it, just made me feel bad, if you're going totry to be helpful like that try a couple of days before next time". I said "come on" and he pulled the "only messing about chill out" line.

Would this wind you something silly? I didn't say anything but feel fuming. We are meant to be trying to fix thigns and things like thist just make me feel like pulling the plug. Or am I overreacting?

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taylorswift1989 · 15/04/2024 22:04

It sounds like you need to be 100% clear. As in, "DH, we are breaking up, because your lack of kindness and respect has worn me down. I no longer see you as a husband, but as a child who I have to look after. This is not attractive to me and it does not feel like a partnership. When I raised this before, you said you would like to try counselling to see if we can resolve things, and I agreed to this. However, weeks have passed and you've done nothing towards this. Therefore, I can only conclude that it is not important to you. So we're done."

Don't back down. If he wanted to try to save the marriage, he would have organised counselling and made an effort to show you he cares. Instead he just cried and decided that would be just enough to keep you ticking over.

It's possible that he will suddenly decide to step up and do what you've asked. Then it's up to you whether you're willing to try again.

Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 21:25

I don't even feel defensive or upset at the comments about him being a twat. I agree! It was bad for a long time but then it really felt we had turned a corner. I get it @Devonshiregal though you're right I'm not sure he's going to change. He wasn't like this at the start no. Splitting is totally totally shit though. Feel so sad.

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PandaChopChop · 15/04/2024 20:49

Greywitch2 · 15/04/2024 17:20

He's a prick. He didn't bother remember his own father's birthday and he's pissed off that you've made him feel bad by reminding him of it - but NOT EARLY ENOUGH?

I think your marriage is done, love. There isn't enough counselling in the world that can fix 'entitled twat syndrome'.

I promise I'm not laughing at you OP but this really made me laugh.

And I completely agree. Time to start getting things in order x

Snugglemonkey · 15/04/2024 20:48

HoHoHoliday · 15/04/2024 17:25

He has presumed you knew about the birthday but only reminded him late in the day? It sounds like you missed out the key detail to him which was that you only realised when you saw it on facebook.

Your message to him could have said something like "Just FYI I've just seen on facebook it's your dad's birthday today, have you got time to call him or shall I call from both of us?"

Equally, his response to you could have been "thanks for flagging that up, I'd completely forgotten it was dad's birthday, I'd better call him, better late than never."

You are both snapping at each other, overreacting, over-sensitively reading more than is there. Hopefully the upcoming counselling will help you both communicate with each other better.

And you could get a shared calendar for remembering people's birthdays and other important events!

Wtf?

Shall she call? Is she his secretary?

Fookintired · 15/04/2024 20:47

The poster who said that he sounds like a nightmare, is spot on.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 15/04/2024 20:45

I've only read the OP.

I would've chosen violence.

Heartoverhead1 · 15/04/2024 20:42

Urgh he sounds awful. Time to call it a day. Actions speak louder than words and he's failed to book a restaurant for your anniversary, failed to sort out counselling and his answer to you helpfully pointing out his dads birthday is to berate you. No thanks!

Devonshiregal · 15/04/2024 20:41

Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 19:03

@GingerIsBest he said in our big heart to heart 3 weeks ago "I just can't believe you're thinking about calling it quits over things like admin and cleaning". I explained its exactly that - lack of respect and care. He said he understood and then bam...here we are again with a telling off I'm not reminding him of things with enough notice!

Sorry actually commenting again because he has wound me right the fuck up. Babe you’re asking a man to change his personality. yes he understaaaands when you threaten to leave - of course he does! If you walk away from him what does that say about him? He’s not going to let that happen so he appeases you. Temporarily. Because nobody can change their personality.

can I hazard a guess? During the first bit of your relationship he was great. Then over the years he’s become lazy and complacent. But if you actually think about it and allow yourself to admit it he’s manipulative. He does something wrong, and when you react you’re the one starting the argument? He says something rude and when you get upset he tells you you’re always too sensitive. When he lets you down, somehow it always gets turned back to how you’re making him feel bad. he’s gaslighting you and you’re going to waste your time hoping therapy is going to somehow make him see the light and make him stop gaslighting you because it should and could be so easy! But he won’t. It’s a personality. Honestly just go do better. Being by yourself is better than being lonely while youre walking on eggshells in your own home.

jamaisjedors · 15/04/2024 20:39

I'm so sorry.

You sound run ragged trying to do the right thing, second guessing every move and he sounds like whatever you du is not good enough.

He reminds me of my ex husband who was "just joking" - but actually gas lighting, who accused me of being "transactional" when I was just trying to be fair, and then always saw the bad in what I was trying to do instead of the good.

I remember watching a YouTube video about Love and the psychologist said that love was always assuming the best about the other person (including their intentions).

What you say about your husband makes me think he is always blaming others (you) and being the victim and never assuming the best of you.

Good luck... And hugs... It's exhausting...

needsomewarmsunshine · 15/04/2024 20:37

Yanbu to feel annoyed but yabu to be his personal assistant unless you like doing that. He's an adult he can sort out presents and cards for his family. They don't get them? Not your problem.

35965a · 15/04/2024 20:32

He’s a prick. Maybe instead of relying on you to be the ‘helpful wife’ he could be the ‘helpful son’ and remember his own dad’s birthday. He sounds completely useless

Devonshiregal · 15/04/2024 20:29

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 17:14

I'd have punched him. He's actually blaming you for not picking up his slack promptly enough for him to look like an in any way adequate son, like you get nul points for not getting your wifework in two days early.

Not just for making him look like a bad son because she didn’t inform him early enough for him to contact his dad, but also for being horrible enough to point out it was his father’s birthday AT ALL when she realised it was already 3pm because obviously that would just make him feel bad. Poor sod having such an inconsiderate wife. Honestly I think I’d advise him to take a pass on the marriage counselling and spend the money on a secretary who actually does her job properly.

MzHz · 15/04/2024 20:22

It’s his dad’s birthday

he should be ashamed of himself

@Claphamandeggs dont you dare “help” him again.

stupid prick that he is.

Foxblue · 15/04/2024 20:22

Oh gosh, this hit home for me:

'But he sobs and clings to me...I love you I love you, you're my whole life and so on every time we get close to calling it a day.'

My ex was the same, when I tried to break up with him the first time. He never wanted to spend any time with me, resented any effort he had to put into the relationship, but seemed genuinely heartbroken when I tried to call it off. I let it drag on for another couple of months, them finally split with him, got the same response again. I asked him 'what do you love about me' and got a confused face with 'I just love you'. When I pressed him, his answers were all about him, or other people. 'I love how well you get on with my mum' 'I love how you look after me and encourage me' - he couldn't give me one thing that was about just me - my ambition, my humour, nothing like that.

He went round for months telling everyone how heartbroken he was. I later discovered he'd texted an ex 3 days after we broke up and they'd started shagging, while he was still crying to his friends about me.

I honestly think he was only upset because society has trained us that breakups are upsetting. I really don't understand how he could be upset to lose me - he didn't want to spend any time with me! He wasn't nice to me!

Sorry, your story has just hit a chord. If he can't even take half an hour to sort out therapy, you clearly aren't, even though you've been clear it's at crisis point, even on his priority list. You deserve better.

Ormally · 15/04/2024 20:12

Helpful wife? Motivation coming from being a commiserating Daughter-In-Law, instead. This reaction looks like he's centring himself even when it should be about his Dad.

FakeMiddleton · 15/04/2024 20:12

"Well I could flip it around..."

Oh fuck off, DH. What a poor response. In the time it took him to be defensive and pass agg and unhelpful, he could have gone on OpenTable.

He wants to blame, not fix.

Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 20:08

I won't be reminding him again. But feel sad it's come to this. That I can spot its FIL birthday and I deliberately won't mention it. Doesn't feel much like a partnership.

I booked anniversary dinner because I've always said I wanted him to make more effort...a night out or dinner...and he said "well I could flip it round and ask why don't you take me out" so I thought OK, sure, ill be positive and book something a bit special and he seems so negative about it.

But he sobs and clings to me...I love you I love you, you're my whole life and so on every time we get close to calling it a day.

He's clearly in a mood tonight. Often when he feels rubbish about himself he gets mad. He stormed off downstairs as DS wouldn't get out the bath!

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taylorswift1989 · 15/04/2024 20:05

Workawayxx · 15/04/2024 19:10

I haven’t read all the comments so someone may have posted this already but this blog post sprang to mind…
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/she-divorced-me-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink_b_9055288/amp

yanbu about his comment. He sounds insufferable. I’d be telling him no more reminding full stop.

This is what I thought of, too.

Sorry, OP. He sounds like a twat. No one wants to be married to someone who acts like an entitled child.

Witchbitch20 · 15/04/2024 19:51

“and that dear reader, was the last time anyone in my husband’s family every received a card, message or gift for any occasion.”

No more reminders. It’s not your job to maintain his relationships because he can’t be bothered to keep a diary.

FakeMiddleton · 15/04/2024 19:49

What @BirthdayRainbow said. It's not that he doesn't do the dishes, the "little thing"; it's the constant disregard for her request for him to do something.

It's like when men say "urgh stop nagging me"

Well, I wouldn't have to fucking nag if you just copped the fuck on and did it the first time, would I?!

WhereYouLeftIt · 15/04/2024 19:49

Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 18:08

@Couldyounot it's actually the "only messing about" thing that winds me up the most. He uses it all the time so it always feels like me being the problem.

We haven't booked counselling actually as I said he needs to organise it because I do so much but also because he will be skeptical about the therapist if I find them! And guess what....Still nothing booked despite us agreeing 3 weeks ago we needed to if we were to stand a chance!

So, passive-aggressive, making digs that he can then deny were digs.

"he doesnt want us to split. He was sobbing and sobbing a few weeks back when I said it felt like only option"
And manipulative to boot. If he genuinely doesn't want you to split, he'd have booked the counselling session by now.

I'd be giving him a time-limit. If he still hasn't booked counselling in two weeks time, you will accept that actually he is not interested in saving your marriage at all and you will start divorce proceedings.

In the meantime, every claim of "only messing about" would be responded to with "No. You weren't. Have you booked the counselling yet?"

He sounds exhausting. And a twat. In fact, I'd be scouting for a good divorce lawyer ASAP - it looks inevitableSad.

2catsandhappy · 15/04/2024 19:34

@Claphamandeggs "Dh I am giving you 3 days notice that I am going to consult with a lawyer. I see I am wasting my life trying to be in a partnership."

pikkumyy77 · 15/04/2024 19:31

Claphamandeggs · 15/04/2024 17:58

I don't take responsibility for his parents birthdays (I do 90% of everything else) and when I spotted it I did initally think "don't remind him, not your job" but I'm trying to not feel bitter about things and approach things afresh so thought I'd message him so he could call FIL and be a little helpful. I was clear I'd just spotted it on FB.

Im trying my hardest to be more like a proper partnership and not be transactional about who does what as he says he finds it upsetting.

MIL just messaged him 5 mins ago saying "it's dad's birthday". I said "do remind her to remind you 3 days in advance too" so I'm now I'm definitely being the passive aggressive one!

He will say I'm making such a big deal out of it as I'm causing issues again:(

Causing issues isn’t a thing. The issues are there because he makes them. Noticing them isn’t causing them.

BirthdayRainbow · 15/04/2024 19:31

A man wrote a piece called She left me over the washing up. I suggest he reads that. Then you leave him anyway.

WigglyVonWaggly · 15/04/2024 19:28

He’s absolutely pathetic and blaming you simply because it deflects attention from him being a really shitty son who can’t even remember his father’s birthday. Not your job. Next time, let him forget.