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to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?

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JustABitOfUncertainty · 15/04/2024 14:31

I went to a posh party with DH on Saturday. It was a fundraising event for a wheelchair and a hospital bed, hosted by a school mum who has a child in the same year as one of mine. (The fundraised wasn't for her child btw). We NEVER go to parties, certainly not posh ones. We are both shy introverts, but we definitely wanted to show our support for this one.

Anyway, I have this beautiful halter neck top and matching trousers from Reiss from about 20 years ago, still looks brand new, as I very rarely wear it. I am only 5.2", and the trousers drag on the floor until I put my Esska platforms on, and then voila, the whole outfit comes together and I feel a million dollars.

Upon arrival to the party I saw there was a huge pile of shoes and saw the people before us removing their shoes. The host stood there almost blocking the entrance until the guests were barefoot. I am not exaggerating when I say that I really wanted to turn around and leave. Instead, I had to remove my platforms and feel like a 5 year old in her mummy's clothes, constantly pinching my trousers upwards so I wouldn't walk on them.

I know that there was an episode in sex and the city about something similar and I detest the Carrie character, but I empathise with her on this one.

It could have been worse, as I contemplated wearing a cocktail dress which would have meant putting on my toeless tights, how embarrassing would that have been!!

AIBU that there should have been a note on the invitation so that guests could have chosen their outfit accordingly?

OP posts:
category12 · 19/04/2024 16:54

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 16:42

I don’t think it’s rude, or valuing the floors over guests. Floor coverings are expensive, plus who wants to vacuum or shampoo carpets after every gathering? The guests aren’t going to suffer discomfort - I think it’s inconsiderate of visitors not to offer to remove footwear, and they should bring some slippers ,indoor shoes or slip ons if they don’t want to go without footwear and have their bunions on display! There’s a middle ground here. Nothing to stop guests inquiring beforehand if shoes will need to be removed. If yes - fine , bring indoor footwear. If no - fine!

No, I think it's on the hosts to let guests know if they have a house-rule like this.

If it matters to you so much that you'd tell people to remove shoes if they didn't realise, then you need to be pro-active and give them the heads-up first.

We're talking about a dress-up fundraising event, not a casual house party.

Vacuuming is hardly a big deal, and as for shampooing - it seems excessive, people wouldn't be turning up knee-deep covered in mud for a posh do 🙄. Pretty likely you'd have to hoover after an event with food and drink anyway.

KateDelRick · 19/04/2024 16:44

Floors are for people.
People are not there for floors.
Some people just value possessions over any other consideration.

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 16:43

RitaIncognita · 18/04/2024 19:49

I have mobility issues that are well hidden, unless I am barefoot. I have difficulty walking without my shoes, some of which are specially made. I even keep shoes by my bed so that even for a quick trip to the loo, I am shod. I think there are more people like me than you would think. I've never encountered a venue public or private where shoes were forbidden, but if I did, I would have to leave and not participate in the event.

You could have indoor shoes for such occasions!

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 16:42

cherish123 · 18/04/2024 21:43

YANBU

I think it was quite rude of her to make people remove shoes when they are removing formal wear. Would have felt uncomfortable in this situation. She's obviously not comfortable with lots of people being in her house so she should have hired a hall or venue.

I would remove shoes if I went for coffee and there was a carpet. I wouldn't remove my shoes if it is a non-carpetted floor or a kitchen. I don't wear shoes in my house but I would never ask someone to removing shoes. It's rude. As a previous poster said, if you do this you value your own floors (which can be cleaned) over a guest's comfort.

I once heard of a woman who made guests wear shoe covers in the house!

I don’t think it’s rude, or valuing the floors over guests. Floor coverings are expensive, plus who wants to vacuum or shampoo carpets after every gathering? The guests aren’t going to suffer discomfort - I think it’s inconsiderate of visitors not to offer to remove footwear, and they should bring some slippers ,indoor shoes or slip ons if they don’t want to go without footwear and have their bunions on display! There’s a middle ground here. Nothing to stop guests inquiring beforehand if shoes will need to be removed. If yes - fine , bring indoor footwear. If no - fine!

Badbutlins · 19/04/2024 10:06

I wonder if the people buying these know that a nice pack of unopened mens socks would save the need to clean boots 😂

to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?
cherish123 · 18/04/2024 21:43

YANBU

I think it was quite rude of her to make people remove shoes when they are removing formal wear. Would have felt uncomfortable in this situation. She's obviously not comfortable with lots of people being in her house so she should have hired a hall or venue.

I would remove shoes if I went for coffee and there was a carpet. I wouldn't remove my shoes if it is a non-carpetted floor or a kitchen. I don't wear shoes in my house but I would never ask someone to removing shoes. It's rude. As a previous poster said, if you do this you value your own floors (which can be cleaned) over a guest's comfort.

I once heard of a woman who made guests wear shoe covers in the house!

RitaIncognita · 18/04/2024 19:49

I have mobility issues that are well hidden, unless I am barefoot. I have difficulty walking without my shoes, some of which are specially made. I even keep shoes by my bed so that even for a quick trip to the loo, I am shod. I think there are more people like me than you would think. I've never encountered a venue public or private where shoes were forbidden, but if I did, I would have to leave and not participate in the event.

Rottweilermummy · 18/04/2024 08:10

Rottweilermummy · 17/04/2024 06:55

YABU O.P. To have a formal party at your house and expect people to take their shoes off is ridiculous imo, if you care that much about your floors have a party in local hall or something, I've been bought up with parents having parties and couple of rooms had wooden floors but never had a shoes off policy, I would respect someone who had a shoes off rule generally but I don't know many that do. Wouldn't have hurt to put on invite, as op and a few on here have said lots plan outfits based on shoes (was it carpets or wooden floors she was worried about? Someone could hsve slipped on wooden floor🤔)

I'm so sorry meant to say in my original.message YANBU OP, çheck all my spellings then miss that vital bit 🙄

Alaimo · 18/04/2024 06:11

Loulou599 · 16/04/2024 22:17

This whole problem arises from the fact the British use carpets which is a gross concept and forces them to do weird antisocial stuff like demand guests at a posh party remove their shoes so they don't dirty the filth trap floors. If they just had normal floors that could be easily cleaned they wouldn't have this issue

I'm in Scandinavia. Almost no-one has carpet but still everyone takes their shoes off inside.

gingersnapdrop · 18/04/2024 02:27

This happened to me. Luckily, I did not live far, so I went home and got shoe covers, which I keep under my sink for workers, put them on and went back into the party with my high heels and shoe covers. (The host was fine with it.)

Bignanna · 17/04/2024 19:28

Askingforafriendtoday · 17/04/2024 18:29

@celticprincess Exactly.And note my earlier point too about a sudden fire, premises plunged into darkness, everyone scrambling for shoes, some having to sit to put them on

All the people worrying about a bit of wholesome mud and damp must have led very sheltered lives about what people can shed from their feet.... forgot to mention the very common fungal infrction, very contagious athlete's foot, everyone's skin cells, verukahs etc.

And perhaps they haven't heard of doormats 🤔

Only it’s often not wholesome mud and damp! Even if dog mess has been cleaned up , traces remain, plus dog pee, not to mention some filthy person’s spit etc, and I don’t want shoes that have walked on that in my house. A door mat wont remove that, and I don’t intend to shampoo frequently.

Teddleshon · 17/04/2024 18:38

Surely spilt food and drink is a greater threat to carpets than a bit of dirt which can be easily hoovered.

Askingforafriendtoday · 17/04/2024 18:29

celticprincess · 16/04/2024 22:13

I would need a warning as I get very cold feet and would need to have brought my slip on warm ballet pink type slippers. I have one relative where I always take these with me as her house is always really cold.

I also wonder if there would be any negotiation for someone who has specially made medical shoes and who can’t walk properly without those on. And who can’t physically get them off unless she has a seat and someone to help.

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@celticprincess Exactly.And note my earlier point too about a sudden fire, premises plunged into darkness, everyone scrambling for shoes, some having to sit to put them on

All the people worrying about a bit of wholesome mud and damp must have led very sheltered lives about what people can shed from their feet.... forgot to mention the very common fungal infrction, very contagious athlete's foot, everyone's skin cells, verukahs etc.

And perhaps they haven't heard of doormats 🤔

Calliopespa · 17/04/2024 11:25

OpusGiemuJavlo · 17/04/2024 11:19

A shoes off event is definitely casual not a posh event and I would go in jeans.

We don't wear shoes in our own home but I don't expect visitors to take theirs off - If they start taking them off I say the only people required to take shoes off are those who are likely to climb on the furniture - if you're just going to sit and chat without gymnastics you're fine to keep them on.

Yanbu op - knowing you can't wear shoes is a vital piece of clothing-decision info!

I agree about the furniture Aspect. Most of our child guests slip their shoes off and I like this as they tend to play up in the bedrooms where we have carpet, or sit on furniture with feet tucked under little bottoms. But most of our adult guests couldn’t sit like that if they wanted to🤣.

OpusGiemuJavlo · 17/04/2024 11:19

A shoes off event is definitely casual not a posh event and I would go in jeans.

We don't wear shoes in our own home but I don't expect visitors to take theirs off - If they start taking them off I say the only people required to take shoes off are those who are likely to climb on the furniture - if you're just going to sit and chat without gymnastics you're fine to keep them on.

Yanbu op - knowing you can't wear shoes is a vital piece of clothing-decision info!

Tatiani · 17/04/2024 11:18

eastegg · 17/04/2024 00:17

I’m with you. I also have feet I would feel terribly uncomfortable having to expose. A really bad deformed fungal/damaged big toe nail and bunions. I wouldn’t like the assumption that everyone is comfortable getting their feet out, it’s inconsiderate.

I agree. Some people will feel uncomfortable exposing their own feet, others might find it off-putting having to walk barefoot with lots of other shoeless people in a small space.
I also wonder what formal outfits would look like with bare feet or socks. It’s all just awkward and uncomfortable.
Taking your shoes off at a friend’s house is one thing, but at a formal event?

Delatron · 17/04/2024 11:12

Delatron · 17/04/2024 11:12

The class divide is clearly: upper class - shoes on (wouldn’t dream of being bad hosts, have wooden, stone floors with cleaners)

Lower middle class with carpets - shoes off.

Other cultures excepted.

Edited

Sorry upper class shoes on!!

Delatron · 17/04/2024 11:12

Calliopespa · 17/04/2024 11:08

Well I there possibly is except what’s confusing that is this was supposedly a “ posh” party 🤷🏻‍♀️

The class divide is clearly: upper class - shoes on (wouldn’t dream of being bad hosts, have wooden, stone floors with cleaners)

Lower middle class with carpets - shoes off.

Other cultures excepted.

Calliopespa · 17/04/2024 11:08

Nettie1964 · 17/04/2024 10:42

Would it be rude to say there seems to be some sort of class divide to this.

Well I there possibly is except what’s confusing that is this was supposedly a “ posh” party 🤷🏻‍♀️

inamarina · 17/04/2024 10:56

vapourtrail · 17/04/2024 07:12

I'd be gutted if I went to the effort to organise a big fundraising event in my house (with all the time, effort and risks this involves, things getting broken, stained etc) to help another family and there was a woman bitching about me on the internet.

Well, feeling gutted could be easily avoided by not making guests feel awkward in the first place.
If it’s a formal event the majority of people wouldn’t expect to be asked to take off their shoes.

Nettie1964 · 17/04/2024 10:42

Would it be rude to say there seems to be some sort of class divide to this.

Calliopespa · 17/04/2024 09:46

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 16/04/2024 23:35

@OP, what did the other guests at the party think? Did anyone actually discuss the naked feet situation or was it an huge elephant in the room?

It was more like the huge whiff in the room!🤣

Calliopespa · 17/04/2024 09:32

Bignanna · 16/04/2024 11:22

Naturally you keep your socks etc on! Nothing to stop you taking your indoor shoes/slippers with you. People who like visitors to remove their shoes are not weirdos. If so, then most people are weirdos!

I think, though, this is where the problem with imposing the rule at a formal function begins. I don’t wear socks under formal footwear.

As someone noted upthread, although this thread is looking very polarised, there is actually a fair bit of middle ground: lots of people saying children should take shoes off inside and even prepared to ask children visiting to, as well as people having shoes off in their own homes. So it’s not all shoes on or shoes off. It’s a “time and place” contextual thing

Badbutlins · 17/04/2024 08:31

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 08:29

Gosh, I have just realised how disgusting all those Hollywood stars are, walking the red CARPET in their filthy outdoor shoes.

Someone needs to stop this! If we all start to create a buzz now, I predict that next year’s big fashion hit at the Oscars will be #unopenedpackofmenssocks

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YES let's make it happen filthy dirty red carpet 😷

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 17/04/2024 08:29

Gosh, I have just realised how disgusting all those Hollywood stars are, walking the red CARPET in their filthy outdoor shoes.

Someone needs to stop this! If we all start to create a buzz now, I predict that next year’s big fashion hit at the Oscars will be #unopenedpackofmenssocks