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to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?

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JustABitOfUncertainty · 15/04/2024 14:31

I went to a posh party with DH on Saturday. It was a fundraising event for a wheelchair and a hospital bed, hosted by a school mum who has a child in the same year as one of mine. (The fundraised wasn't for her child btw). We NEVER go to parties, certainly not posh ones. We are both shy introverts, but we definitely wanted to show our support for this one.

Anyway, I have this beautiful halter neck top and matching trousers from Reiss from about 20 years ago, still looks brand new, as I very rarely wear it. I am only 5.2", and the trousers drag on the floor until I put my Esska platforms on, and then voila, the whole outfit comes together and I feel a million dollars.

Upon arrival to the party I saw there was a huge pile of shoes and saw the people before us removing their shoes. The host stood there almost blocking the entrance until the guests were barefoot. I am not exaggerating when I say that I really wanted to turn around and leave. Instead, I had to remove my platforms and feel like a 5 year old in her mummy's clothes, constantly pinching my trousers upwards so I wouldn't walk on them.

I know that there was an episode in sex and the city about something similar and I detest the Carrie character, but I empathise with her on this one.

It could have been worse, as I contemplated wearing a cocktail dress which would have meant putting on my toeless tights, how embarrassing would that have been!!

AIBU that there should have been a note on the invitation so that guests could have chosen their outfit accordingly?

OP posts:
RosaRoja · 15/04/2024 19:14

For a party she could have rolled away the rugs, put a cling film type wrap on the floors, added some extra rugs, scheduled a hoovering for the day after, topped up on Vanish for carpets.

We don’t have shoes indoors but parties are a different matter. How to make people feel awkward.

mrsdineen2 · 15/04/2024 19:14

ineedsun · 15/04/2024 19:12

Might have been a posh party but it wasn’t classy!

I find it really rude when people insist on shoes off, I tend to offer anyway but insisting someone take their shoes off is very unwelcoming for so many reasons.

Yup, attacking someone the second they come in the door and implying they're either inherently grimy or the don't have the sense to avoid the dog shit 3 doors down.

I wonder do these posters have a fit of the vapors when someone travels by bus then sits down on their sofa?

ineedsun · 15/04/2024 19:14

PersephonePitstop · 15/04/2024 19:10

Shoes off is a very lower middle class trait.

A higher social class household would not have such a policy and treat guests as less important than their floor.

treat guests as less important than their floor.

Nail on the head.

BabsMustGo · 15/04/2024 19:12

GreigeO · 15/04/2024 19:10

So the blokes were standing around in suits with bare feet? How weird!

It sounds horrific!

BobnLen · 15/04/2024 19:12

Lower middle is shoes off, worrying about their floors and germs

ineedsun · 15/04/2024 19:12

Might have been a posh party but it wasn’t classy!

I find it really rude when people insist on shoes off, I tend to offer anyway but insisting someone take their shoes off is very unwelcoming for so many reasons.

eise · 15/04/2024 19:11

@CamoPenguin It is unhygienic. I lived in Scandinavia - even the children had indoor shoes for school.
I grew up in a house where you left shoes at the door although my parents would allow people in with their shoes. Taking shoes off was a sign of respecting someone's home and not bringing dirt indoors.
Most of my friends where I live have the same rule - no shoes indoors. Very rarely have I been to someone's house and they asked me to bring shoes in. Maybe once in 20 years - I live in the UK, south.

GreigeO · 15/04/2024 19:10

So the blokes were standing around in suits with bare feet? How weird!

mrsdineen2 · 15/04/2024 19:10

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:07

You dont really need to go into some attacking mode :) I dont know what pcp is sorry. I do assume you are joking.
NR class I think would be shoes on, wanting to appear posh and therefore showing off clothes, and not relaxed (nor comfortable MC indeed).

It's not about the actual shoes, rather the tendency to wade into a thread and declare what middle class habit you've established in your naice area to raise yourself above the vulgar shoe-wearing inhabitants of the common postcodes down the road.

All very cringe.

PersephonePitstop · 15/04/2024 19:10

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:02

  • by class divide you mean working class versus middle class, there might be... I live in a middle class area and we always take our shoes off. More hygienic etc.

Shoes off is a very lower middle class trait.

A higher social class household would not have such a policy and treat guests as less important than their floor.

poetryandwine · 15/04/2024 19:09

aberamagold · 15/04/2024 18:46

That was definitely not a posh party, OP.

I agree

Bigcoatweather · 15/04/2024 19:08

Yes, this has happened to me too and I wasn’t happy either.
If I was visiting for a coffee, I’d absolutely take off my shoes, no problem. But if you’re hosting a party, obviously people will get dressed up and I wouldn’t expect to be treated like a child and asked to take my shoes off. If it was my party, I’d presume one of the chores would be vacuuming and mopping floors after lots of visitors before any young children were allowed to crawl on it again.

Honestly, I think if you’re so precious about floors and germs, don’t host big parties.

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:07

mrsdineen2 · 15/04/2024 19:04

Nouveau middle class then, the established, comfortable middle classes don't announce themselves in such vulgar ways.

Lots of white pcp cars in your area I assume.

Edited

You dont really need to go into some attacking mode :) I dont know what pcp is sorry. I do assume you are joking.
NR class I think would be shoes on, wanting to appear posh and therefore showing off clothes, and not relaxed (nor comfortable MC indeed).

Megifer · 15/04/2024 19:05

Bigcat25 · 15/04/2024 19:03

This seems so strange to me. I'm in Canada and shoes off is standard.

I'm not in Canada

DrCoconut · 15/04/2024 19:05

@Blueocean18 exactly. Making people take shoes off was considered "common" and ill mannered when I was growing up unless it was someone from another culture where this is the norm or there was real reason to protect the floor eg kids had been out in mud and host had a brand new cream carpet or something. Same with taking shoes off in someone else's house - very over familiar and weird. This must have been the general stance because when I went on an exchange visit at college part of the pre trip information was about etiquette regarding shoes off in the country we were going to. If taking shoes off was usual they wouldn't have included that? Now I take the view that it's each to their own but it's still something I wouldn't do.

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:04

I genuinely didn't realise some people would rather I wear my outdoor shoes in their house! I'll maybe check in future, although I don't know anyone who doesn't prefer guests taking their shoes off. I walk around farms a lot and am conscious that I've been walking through mud and various types of animal muck, not always visible, but I'm aware that even after walking some off, it's still unhgyienic and carries a contamination risk in some cases. I will in no way walk that through my house, which is why I'd take them off elsewhere.

mrsdineen2 · 15/04/2024 19:04

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:02

  • by class divide you mean working class versus middle class, there might be... I live in a middle class area and we always take our shoes off. More hygienic etc.

Nouveau middle class then, the established, comfortable middle classes don't announce themselves in such vulgar ways.

Lots of white pcp cars in your area I assume.

SaltyGod · 15/04/2024 19:04

Also agree, it can’t have been a posh party

eise · 15/04/2024 19:03

Molly499 · 15/04/2024 19:00

This is utterly bizarre, there is no way I would have removed my shoes. Why do people have such a problem with shoes, you have probably only walked from the car/taxi to the front door. I have never, ever been asked to remove my shoes and I never will.

Not convinced that it was a ‘posh’ party either as posh people don’t have carpet in most of the ground floor so where is the problem? I also think there is a class divide in this issue.

It's the dirt under your shoes not a carpet issue. You would have to take your shoes off at mine or bring your own indoor shoes if you don't want to borrow a pair of clean socks or our indoor shoes (slippers).

Bigcat25 · 15/04/2024 19:03

Megifer · 15/04/2024 18:57

Actually getting hives at the thought someone might just take their shoes off and waltz in without checking its ok 😩

I'm pouring myself a gin to settle my nerves.

This seems so strange to me. I'm in Canada and shoes off is standard.

VinoVerity · 15/04/2024 19:02

aberamagold · 15/04/2024 18:46

That was definitely not a posh party, OP.

Absolutely! Fucking common. 😮

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:02
  • by class divide you mean working class versus middle class, there might be... I live in a middle class area and we always take our shoes off. More hygienic etc.
SaltyGod · 15/04/2024 19:01

This topic is always so interesting as it is so divisive.

I genuinely don’t know a shoes off household. I can’t imagine being asked to take shoes off at a formal party, party outfits don’t work in bare feet. I also really don’t like feet, the thought of all those sweaty socks and toes mingling on carpet gives me the shivers (granted this is a me issue 🤣)

Unless someone has hiked over hill and dale to get to my house and were all muddy, we are shoes on. Please keep your shoes on in my house 😄

eise · 15/04/2024 19:01

What was the problem OP? Were your feet dry or hard? I always carry a pair of socks as my feet aren't always mani+pedi fresh.
We don't do shoes in my house and I don't have any friends who do - it's fairly normal for me not to wear shoes in the house and I expect all guests to do the same otherwise goodbye.