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to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?

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JustABitOfUncertainty · 15/04/2024 14:31

I went to a posh party with DH on Saturday. It was a fundraising event for a wheelchair and a hospital bed, hosted by a school mum who has a child in the same year as one of mine. (The fundraised wasn't for her child btw). We NEVER go to parties, certainly not posh ones. We are both shy introverts, but we definitely wanted to show our support for this one.

Anyway, I have this beautiful halter neck top and matching trousers from Reiss from about 20 years ago, still looks brand new, as I very rarely wear it. I am only 5.2", and the trousers drag on the floor until I put my Esska platforms on, and then voila, the whole outfit comes together and I feel a million dollars.

Upon arrival to the party I saw there was a huge pile of shoes and saw the people before us removing their shoes. The host stood there almost blocking the entrance until the guests were barefoot. I am not exaggerating when I say that I really wanted to turn around and leave. Instead, I had to remove my platforms and feel like a 5 year old in her mummy's clothes, constantly pinching my trousers upwards so I wouldn't walk on them.

I know that there was an episode in sex and the city about something similar and I detest the Carrie character, but I empathise with her on this one.

It could have been worse, as I contemplated wearing a cocktail dress which would have meant putting on my toeless tights, how embarrassing would that have been!!

AIBU that there should have been a note on the invitation so that guests could have chosen their outfit accordingly?

OP posts:
Dunnoburt · 15/04/2024 19:41

First thing I do in someone else's house is take my shoes off.......I also advise people to wipe their feet on the way out if they are visiting mine 🤣🤣🤣

GnomeDePlume · 15/04/2024 19:40

eise · 15/04/2024 19:35

I went to my friends house to drop of her daughter off today and while chatting inside by her main entrance I removed my shoes. My DD removed her shoes and went off inside to play briefly. Her son's friend was visiting and his shoes were at the door. It's just perfectly normal. I am not sure why people are surprised.

Because it was a formal party not a casual visit.

For a formal party I would expect shoes to stay on whatever the normal household rules.

I wonder if this was one of those occasions where the first guests were friends of host who followed the normal rules without thinking. After that the host doubled down on it.

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 15/04/2024 19:38

If I knew or suspected in advance I'd wear slippers. But I wouldn't want to dress up posh in that case.
I really dislike going to other people's bathrooms barefoot or (worse!) in socks, you then end up wet and sticky for the rest of the evening.
In a party environment there is also a risk of bare feet and broken glass.

pilipoli · 15/04/2024 19:36

mrsdineen2 · 15/04/2024 19:10

It's not about the actual shoes, rather the tendency to wade into a thread and declare what middle class habit you've established in your naice area to raise yourself above the vulgar shoe-wearing inhabitants of the common postcodes down the road.

All very cringe.

I think you've got that completely wrong, I was replying to someone else who was talking about it this being a class division. I said nothing about my class, (which as someone from abroad I find funny and watch from afar) was talking about the area I live in. As you've just demonstrated people get so touchy and worked up about imaginary divisions. Especially when they themselves have some chip in the shoulder. But please do continue to harass random people on the Internet. That's not vulgar at all. Ciao and ta-ta darling.

TimeandMotion · 15/04/2024 19:36

If taking your shoes off inside is such a norm in the UK, how do you explain Kirstie & Phil and their househunters touring potential homes with shoes on? Or Kevin McCloud, George Clarke, Tinie and Angela Scanlon going round the transformed homes on their shows with their shoes on?

If it was such a norm, TV makers would get them to take their shoes off so the viewer could relate to them. But in fact they keep shoes on because who wants to see a TV host in their socks or bare feet? Nobody. Same applies to a fellow guest at a party IMO.

eise · 15/04/2024 19:35

I went to my friends house to drop of her daughter off today and while chatting inside by her main entrance I removed my shoes. My DD removed her shoes and went off inside to play briefly. Her son's friend was visiting and his shoes were at the door. It's just perfectly normal. I am not sure why people are surprised.

BobnLen · 15/04/2024 19:33

No one has yet said where all these shoes are left, is it a big pile where you hope to find both your shoes again or special holders or do you carry them with you all evening. It's not going to be like when a couple of people visit and they are left by the front door.

eise · 15/04/2024 19:33

SaltyGod · 15/04/2024 19:25

@CamoPenguin

Yours is a valid but unusual reason for shoes off. I can’t imagine many of the party guests had been walking through lamb and sheep bodily fluid on their way to a formal party in smart clothes.

In your case of course it makes sense to take a spare pair of clean shoes with you.

Most folk are just walking from car to door, or from the bus stop.

Dogs and animals still poo outside last I checked. It's still very unhygienic.

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:29

@SaltyGod It definitely isn't something most people will have to deal with, but it was more in reference to those saying they'd be horrified if a guest took their shoes off when going into their house and saying people who do so are weird.

I think it's personal preference, and if someone asked me to keep my outdoor shoes on of course I would, but I don't think it's strange either to not want whatever has been walked on outdoors brought into your house.

GnomeDePlume · 15/04/2024 19:27

Could have been worse @JustABitOfUncertainty , they could have been one of the 'no outdoor clothes' households (I spend too long on MN) where you would have been expected to put on host provided loungewear if you hadnt brought your own.

SaltyGod · 15/04/2024 19:25

@CamoPenguin

Yours is a valid but unusual reason for shoes off. I can’t imagine many of the party guests had been walking through lamb and sheep bodily fluid on their way to a formal party in smart clothes.

In your case of course it makes sense to take a spare pair of clean shoes with you.

Most folk are just walking from car to door, or from the bus stop.

eise · 15/04/2024 19:25

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:21

@eise Yes, these are more or less my thoughts. Especially now (lambing season) there is a slight risk to pregnant women, for example. Not everyone would know I'd been walking through the farm as I'll clean my shoes on top as we also wear slippers or socks only indoors, and I'd hate to bring that into someone's home.
I also live in the UK and don't know anyone who would walk into someone's house wearing outdoor shoes. Perhaps it makes me dreadfully common in the eyes of the MN upper classes, but I would ask someone to remove outdoor shoes if they wanted to wear them in my house. 😅

I have some very wealthy friends - the only time I can remember keeping shoes on is when the party was outside.

StripeyDeckchair · 15/04/2024 19:24

I am amazed at how many people expect visitors to take their shoes off when they visit them at home.
I think it is incredibly rude & unwelcoming to do this and totally unreasonable in the circumstances outlined in the OP

I wouldn't dream of doing this unless people were wearing muddy boots/wellies.
I've reached an age where I don't give a fuck - I have and will leave if someone tries this on me.
I have reynauds and would be in pain within minutes if I wandered around without shoes on.

RosaRoja · 15/04/2024 19:23

Charles with hole in the sock when visiting a mosque

to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?
PersephonePitstop · 15/04/2024 19:22

WonderingWanda · 15/04/2024 19:17

That's ridiculous, who makes people take their shoes off for a proper party? We are generally a shoes of household but I would never insist and don't expect it when we are hosting parties.

There’s some strange fuckers out there 🙄

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:21

@eise Yes, these are more or less my thoughts. Especially now (lambing season) there is a slight risk to pregnant women, for example. Not everyone would know I'd been walking through the farm as I'll clean my shoes on top as we also wear slippers or socks only indoors, and I'd hate to bring that into someone's home.
I also live in the UK and don't know anyone who would walk into someone's house wearing outdoor shoes. Perhaps it makes me dreadfully common in the eyes of the MN upper classes, but I would ask someone to remove outdoor shoes if they wanted to wear them in my house. 😅

mondaytosunday · 15/04/2024 19:19

Really people? A formal party you expect people to take shoes off?
No. This is bizarre. And kinda gross. Bare feet on wood floors are far worse than 'outdoor' shoes.

TimeandMotion · 15/04/2024 19:19

Are people missing that this was a formal fundraising party for guests who were not friends of the host? I think that there is a huge difference between asking your friends to remove their shoes and asking it of people you don’t know and who you are hoping will give money to a charity/have paid a donation to be there.

SaltyGod · 15/04/2024 19:19

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:15

Why is class an issue? Who cares if someone is working, middle or whatever class? I don't think every upper middle class person insists on shoes on. The class system is so silly, and usually used to put people down on MN.

It’s not an ‘issue’ but as this is the UK everything seems to be perceived as an indication of class 🤣

And if I had to call it, shoes off would be lower middle or middle middle, and shoes on would be upper middle or upper. I can’t imagine the Duke of Devonshire hosting a party of people in their stockinged feet. A Google suggests that the Torygraph, Times and DailyMail all agree, so it must be true.

It’s Mumsnet, it often boils down to class comments a few pages in.

Bigcoatweather · 15/04/2024 19:18

I’d also be curious to know if those who are extremely concerned with microscopic bits of dirt, germs and animal poo dragged in on outdoor shoes have pet cats and dogs?

WonderingWanda · 15/04/2024 19:17

That's ridiculous, who makes people take their shoes off for a proper party? We are generally a shoes of household but I would never insist and don't expect it when we are hosting parties.

Greenfluffycardi · 15/04/2024 19:17

I’d probably assume shoes off as we don’t have shoes in the house either.

DrusillaPaddock · 15/04/2024 19:16

Definitely not a posh party. If they were truly 'posh' they would have hard floors and any wooden floors (real) would be covered in scratches caused by their dogs claws.
I wouldn't consider myself posh, but would rather eat my own hair than ask anyone to remove their shoes in my house. 😁

CamoPenguin · 15/04/2024 19:15

Why is class an issue? Who cares if someone is working, middle or whatever class? I don't think every upper middle class person insists on shoes on. The class system is so silly, and usually used to put people down on MN.

VinoVerity · 15/04/2024 19:15

ineedsun · 15/04/2024 19:12

Might have been a posh party but it wasn’t classy!

I find it really rude when people insist on shoes off, I tend to offer anyway but insisting someone take their shoes off is very unwelcoming for so many reasons.

Well put 👏👏