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to expect host to let her party guests know that she has a no shoes policy?

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JustABitOfUncertainty · 15/04/2024 14:31

I went to a posh party with DH on Saturday. It was a fundraising event for a wheelchair and a hospital bed, hosted by a school mum who has a child in the same year as one of mine. (The fundraised wasn't for her child btw). We NEVER go to parties, certainly not posh ones. We are both shy introverts, but we definitely wanted to show our support for this one.

Anyway, I have this beautiful halter neck top and matching trousers from Reiss from about 20 years ago, still looks brand new, as I very rarely wear it. I am only 5.2", and the trousers drag on the floor until I put my Esska platforms on, and then voila, the whole outfit comes together and I feel a million dollars.

Upon arrival to the party I saw there was a huge pile of shoes and saw the people before us removing their shoes. The host stood there almost blocking the entrance until the guests were barefoot. I am not exaggerating when I say that I really wanted to turn around and leave. Instead, I had to remove my platforms and feel like a 5 year old in her mummy's clothes, constantly pinching my trousers upwards so I wouldn't walk on them.

I know that there was an episode in sex and the city about something similar and I detest the Carrie character, but I empathise with her on this one.

It could have been worse, as I contemplated wearing a cocktail dress which would have meant putting on my toeless tights, how embarrassing would that have been!!

AIBU that there should have been a note on the invitation so that guests could have chosen their outfit accordingly?

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JMSA · 20/04/2024 18:51

YABU.

Pipsquiggle · 20/04/2024 18:48

Bignanna · 20/04/2024 14:54

I’m not just talking about this thread, but I’ve seen similar threads on different forums and they seemed to favour the shoes off, and take an opposite view to you in that its considered disrespectful NOT to remove shoes. I don’t think anyone thinks their floors are more important than people, but I can understand why hosts prefer their guests to remove their shoes unless they have some horrible foot condition , or disability. It’s no hardship to take along some indoor shoes if you don’t want others to see the holes in your socks.

@Bignanna

And that's where we will have to disagree.

I have been asked probably 5 times or less to remove my shoes. I just think it's really rude and I will definitely judge the host for it. And it is definitely a hassle to carry another pair of shoes with you, particularly if you are just popping in for a brew.

I honestly had never come across this until I moved down south.

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 17:11

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 17:08

I love sloths. Wouldn't have one in the house though.
Oh, and my auntie's budgie.

🙄

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 17:08

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 17:03

Lovely people don't "hate" animals.

I love sloths. Wouldn't have one in the house though.
Oh, and my auntie's budgie.

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 17:03

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 17:02

They do. I am a lovely person 😇

Lovely people don't "hate" animals.

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 17:02

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 17:01

I hear dogs speak very highly of you.

They do. I am a lovely person 😇

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 17:01

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 16:21

Oh for goodness sake!
I hate dogs, ok? The jumping up, slavering, growling, barking, biting, pissing and shitting everywhere.
I cannot imagine how they would enrich anyone's lives, let alone mine, but I will say it once more:
each to their own

I hear dogs speak very highly of you.

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 16:21

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 16:16

You're the one that's missing out...

Oh for goodness sake!
I hate dogs, ok? The jumping up, slavering, growling, barking, biting, pissing and shitting everywhere.
I cannot imagine how they would enrich anyone's lives, let alone mine, but I will say it once more:
each to their own

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 16:16

You're the one that's missing out...

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 16:06

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 15:45

It's probably not "odd" not to have pets but I think it's a little sad. Pets enrich your life so much.

You can only speak for yourself.
My life has enrichment. I don't like dogs at all, and wouldn't want a cat.
Like I said, mess and smell. But each to their own.

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 15:45

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 13:07

It's not "odd" not to have pets.
I don't want the smell and the mess.
I have a lovely home, it's very welcoming and I don't care if you keep your shoes on or take them off. My flooring will cope, as will I.

It's probably not "odd" not to have pets but I think it's a little sad. Pets enrich your life so much.

Bignanna · 20/04/2024 14:54

Pipsquiggle · 20/04/2024 06:51

@Bignanna it's funny how we are reading the same thread and getting totally different conclusions from it.

From the poll and from the answers, I would say that most people agree with OP and think it's really unreasonable/awful to invite people around to your house for a posh /formal charity event and once they arrive in their gladrags, ask them to take their shoes off.
It's actually really fucking rude and the host is putting their flooring above people and making them feel awkward. They are being terrible hosts.

Genuinely, I don't know how you can think anything else regarding the circumstances for this event. In my whole life, any posh / formal event that I have been invited to, whether it's in someone's house or elsewhere, I have never ever been asked to remove my shoes.

In everyday life, I don't remove my shoes nor do I ask my guests to, but that's probably because we have hard floors downstairs

I’m not just talking about this thread, but I’ve seen similar threads on different forums and they seemed to favour the shoes off, and take an opposite view to you in that its considered disrespectful NOT to remove shoes. I don’t think anyone thinks their floors are more important than people, but I can understand why hosts prefer their guests to remove their shoes unless they have some horrible foot condition , or disability. It’s no hardship to take along some indoor shoes if you don’t want others to see the holes in your socks.

KateDelRick · 20/04/2024 13:07

It's not "odd" not to have pets.
I don't want the smell and the mess.
I have a lovely home, it's very welcoming and I don't care if you keep your shoes on or take them off. My flooring will cope, as will I.

TWETMIRF · 20/04/2024 11:55

I know a couple of people that insist on shoes off but they are very much the minority. The fact that shoes off houses tell you to take them off as soon as they open the door tells you that most people are shoes on. If the norm was shoes off then you wouldn't have to tell everyone that comes to your house.

I never feel comfortable in shoes off houses as I always feel that they are more interested in their furniture than me. Also they don't tend to have pets which is something I find odd, animals make homes complete.

Pipsquiggle · 20/04/2024 06:51

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 19:29

The question of whether outside shoes should be worn inside is a favourite of many forums, but from what I’ve read, the overwhelming response seems to be in favour of removing shoes. There’s some silly responses, that’s to be expected, but imo it boils down to common sense and courtesy.

@Bignanna it's funny how we are reading the same thread and getting totally different conclusions from it.

From the poll and from the answers, I would say that most people agree with OP and think it's really unreasonable/awful to invite people around to your house for a posh /formal charity event and once they arrive in their gladrags, ask them to take their shoes off.
It's actually really fucking rude and the host is putting their flooring above people and making them feel awkward. They are being terrible hosts.

Genuinely, I don't know how you can think anything else regarding the circumstances for this event. In my whole life, any posh / formal event that I have been invited to, whether it's in someone's house or elsewhere, I have never ever been asked to remove my shoes.

In everyday life, I don't remove my shoes nor do I ask my guests to, but that's probably because we have hard floors downstairs

Calliopespa · 20/04/2024 00:30

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 19:29

The question of whether outside shoes should be worn inside is a favourite of many forums, but from what I’ve read, the overwhelming response seems to be in favour of removing shoes. There’s some silly responses, that’s to be expected, but imo it boils down to common sense and courtesy.

That’s slightly circumventing the issue which is removing them for formal events. I’m not sure an overwhelming response in favour of shoeless formal functions is likely. Being at home watching tv, for example, is a completely different thing.

FraiseRoyale · 20/04/2024 00:06

OP refers to this as a posh event. Can't have been very posh if they were making people take their shoes off.

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 19:29

The question of whether outside shoes should be worn inside is a favourite of many forums, but from what I’ve read, the overwhelming response seems to be in favour of removing shoes. There’s some silly responses, that’s to be expected, but imo it boils down to common sense and courtesy.

MyDentistIsCalledCrentist · 19/04/2024 19:17

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 18:59

They don’t have to go without shoes, though! They can bring comfy indoor shoes with them.

I have never in my life considered putting slippers in my bag to go to a house party. No one has ever asked me to bring slippers either. I go to a lot of house parties too. I'm not treated like a contaminant on the vast majority of occasions.

Besides, I wouldn't be allowed my slippers according to your rules because I take the bins out/nip to the car in them 🤷‍♀️

KateDelRick · 19/04/2024 19:09

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 18:59

They don’t have to go without shoes, though! They can bring comfy indoor shoes with them.

What if the indoor shoes may have once, inadvertantly, touched the ground outside? Do you think people should line up and have the soles inspected?

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 18:59

MyDentistIsCalledCrentist · 19/04/2024 17:53

They ARE going to suffer discomfort. You're not even accounting for medical conditions, let alone the fact that many, many people have said they wouldn't feel comfortable without their shoes on.

Of course you care more about your floor than how you're making anyone feel.

They don’t have to go without shoes, though! They can bring comfy indoor shoes with them.

RitaIncognita · 19/04/2024 18:04

You could have indoor shoes for such occasions!

I don't need them. Happily for me, no one I know refuses to accommodate my disability.

I wonder, do these precious floor folks refuse to allow a wheelchair that has trod the dirty earth to enter their homes, or do they require people to have special indoor wheelchairs?

MyDentistIsCalledCrentist · 19/04/2024 17:53

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 16:42

I don’t think it’s rude, or valuing the floors over guests. Floor coverings are expensive, plus who wants to vacuum or shampoo carpets after every gathering? The guests aren’t going to suffer discomfort - I think it’s inconsiderate of visitors not to offer to remove footwear, and they should bring some slippers ,indoor shoes or slip ons if they don’t want to go without footwear and have their bunions on display! There’s a middle ground here. Nothing to stop guests inquiring beforehand if shoes will need to be removed. If yes - fine , bring indoor footwear. If no - fine!

They ARE going to suffer discomfort. You're not even accounting for medical conditions, let alone the fact that many, many people have said they wouldn't feel comfortable without their shoes on.

Of course you care more about your floor than how you're making anyone feel.

KateDelRick · 19/04/2024 16:59

No, never, @CharlotteBog . The last one I went to was an engagement party and people were dressed up. All wore shoes.
Common sense would say that those kind of shoes aren't going to be particularly dirty!
A bit of dirt? That's life! Clean it up.

CharlotteBog · 19/04/2024 16:56

Bignanna · 19/04/2024 16:42

I don’t think it’s rude, or valuing the floors over guests. Floor coverings are expensive, plus who wants to vacuum or shampoo carpets after every gathering? The guests aren’t going to suffer discomfort - I think it’s inconsiderate of visitors not to offer to remove footwear, and they should bring some slippers ,indoor shoes or slip ons if they don’t want to go without footwear and have their bunions on display! There’s a middle ground here. Nothing to stop guests inquiring beforehand if shoes will need to be removed. If yes - fine , bring indoor footwear. If no - fine!

Invitation: We would like to invite you to our charity event. Formal attire please. But no shoes.

Never seen such a thing in my life.

Invitation: We would like to invite you to our charity event. Formal attire please.

Guest thinks - oh I'd better ask if I can keep my shoes on.
Host: What?!

Also never seen such a thing in my life.

It's OK for floors to get a bit grubby. Guest attending a posh party are unlikely to have mud or dogs mess on their shoes. If they had picked some up, they'd probably want to clean them. A bit of rain? That's what door mats are for.

Has anyone truthfully been to a party where they've worn a lovely outfit and all the guests have been in overshoes or bare/stocking feet?

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