No children in pub after 5pm

Ours had a playground and a fantastic view. No kids admitted after 6 unless eating. Dd was evicted on her 13th birthday. We never went back. Neither did loads of others. There was always complaints on the local fb group about it.

It closed down yesterday……

Take them to the park, zoo, museum and galleries. Take them to restaurants (during the day) but pubs aren’t for kids. Course my age probs has a lot to do with it. I remember the pubs in the good old days

Thats called a cafe, pizahut or Macd's

Those places are basically restaurants then aren’t they

How are children supposed to learn how to behave if they aren’t taken anywhere?

Gradually, in an age appropriate way! Eg taking a child to a gallery during the day? Fine. At an evening viewing? Less fine. They are taken on things like school trips.

Children don't have to learn not to run about in a pub. They grow out of wanting to be running around all the time without being taught

So they start learning how to go and behave in the pub earlier in the day and when old enough can stay later.

So your bar for acceptable behaviour is “as long as they’re not running riot” 🤣 hmmmm think we can see why your local pub doesn’t want your kids in in the evening

I think that's an odd blanket statement.

Some pubs are very much geared towards meals (certainly during the day) and aim to come across as family friendly with their environment, menu, and maybe their outdoor area. Many other pubs aren't. Both are fine.

@SweetSouls Because people want a break from kids. Pubs used to be for drinking and smoking. I never went in pubs as a kid. They were adult places. Kids get bored in pubs and not everyone wants them running about.

Great idea. Children don't need to go to the pub.

Some people want adult space and there should be places that provide it.

I think you are viewing your local pubs through the biased lens of what you use them for.

Pub landlords aren't stupid. They have restricted children after 5pm for a reason. The majority of their most valuable profits generating customers do not want them there then.

*I find really they’re just social spaces that people can publicly meet in.

A classic case of failing to recognise what other people want/expect from a pub. Just because you want it to be a social space, it isn't.

There's pubs that have a family friendly business model and those which don't. Either is fine - it's what works best for the business and the demographic they are focusing on.

Family friendly will typically allow kids until 7/8. No kids after 5pm suggests it's not a particularly family friendly venue although you could, say, go for lunch there with kids. If it was entirely non family friendly they could say no kids at all.

I have occasionally taken my kids into a pub but unless we are having a meal it's a quick half hour pit stop. It's not a place for bored/restless children. Mine liked the novelty for half an hour but then they'd want to be active so off we went!

Local lovely pub near us has banned children completely. So many children just running about. One kid ran into a waitress and she dropped hot gravy on him. It was carnage with the parents blaming the waitress.

All children were asked to leave immediately and they've never been let back

The idea you should forgo all adult activities (pubs, galleries etc) when with your children is a bit limiting.

You don't forgo them, but you change a bit, you don't assume everyone wants your children brought along just because it suits you to bring them.You get a babysitter if you want a night out. Mum goes to the gallery with friends while dad takes the kids to the park, or vice versa. You take the children to the pub for sunday lunch, rather than imposing them on everyone into the evening.

Children in pubs in the evenings is a pain, it killa conversations. There are things i want to chatter about with adult friends that aren't for children's ears.

Pubs aren’t for kids.

I think that's a perfectly fair observation.

They can decide how they want to position themselves as a business. Most only make money as a dining pub though and are competing with mid range restaurants which do allow children.

I can't even think of a time I've ever been bothered by a child being in a pub.

Adult males, on the other hand are regularly a total pain in the arse, especially when they've had a few to drink.

No, what I mean is look at the poster who said her dog and toddler love the pub, and like chatting to patrons. They are completely oblivious to the fact the most people do not find their toddler charming and don’t want to have to chat to it on a night out. They will be exactly the type of people I am referring to when I say they think their kids know how to behave- whereas in actual fact they are causing a nuisance.

i have no issue with kids that sit with their families and enjoy a family time. But there are a lot of people who will say that it’s “other people’s kids” that are the issue, that might actually want to have a little think about whether their kids impose themselves on other punters and do they genuinely believe it is what adults want of a night out

Children in pubs generally don't bring in money!

They tend to come with families who sit with pints all day and treat the pub like their living room. The children aren't bought much, take up space and often run around poorly supervised.

pubs want the people who spend a lot. Childfree drinkers, and couples buying a meal.

I'm that generation too. Hour after boring hour sitting in the car with a bag of crisps and bottle of cola. No Breathalyzer back then either, so uncle would drive us all home off his tits.