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Sciatica /slipped disc

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Allofaflutter · 14/04/2024 14:29

Posting here for volume of answers.
Yesterday I moved normally and my lower back suddenly felt like it was being compressed and the pain was awful. Since then pain down one leg. The pain is like cramp but the worst cramp ever. Leg is much worse than back.
I have been screaming all night, literally in so much pain I couldn’t help it, worse than child birth. Couldn’t sit, lay or even perch. Even standing which was when it was best, it was at 9 out of 10. Hubby called 111 and paramedics were sent as I had a pulmonary embolism in Jan and I was screaming with the leg pain and he wanted to be sure it wasn’t that again. They told me to take codiene and paracetamol but it’s not doing anything really significant. They said it was sciatica, possible slipped disc causing it. What can I do to calm the pain. Obviously I’ll call dr tomorrow. Can’t take nsaids as I’m on blood thinners for blood clots. I’ve had no sleep either. Can’t use topical creams for the same reason. Anyone had similar? Can anyone tell me what worked for you? Can’t stand for days though I can just about not cry if I stand. Can’t lay to sleep. Help please? I’m exhausted but the pain won’t let me lay or sit. How long will this go on for?

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Triflelife · 18/04/2024 20:06

Gosh @Allofaflutter so sorry you are going through this I hope you manage to get some proper sleep soon

Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 19:10

I told my gp it was both sides and he wasn’t worried as I had been checked for caudia equina. I’ll ring again in the morning and ask. I’m very unsteady and have fallen as it feels like I’m on glam rock platform shoes or something.

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Flowersandforests · 18/04/2024 19:00

I agree with @susiedaisy1912 - I was always told that if the pain spread to both sides then I should seek medical advice

susiedaisy1912 · 18/04/2024 18:52

Op go back to your gp in the morning and get checked out again.

Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 18:26

Both legs are swollen too.

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Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 18:16

Both legs feel numb now with cramp pain and still back pain. I’m upset as I felt I was recovering and now it’s worse. Got constipation too from all the damn meds.

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Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 18:13

Haven’t had any appointments booked yet. No contact from hospital. I had a nap on the sofa sitting up at 2pm and woke up in excruciating pain in both legs. So two steps back.

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HollaHolla · 18/04/2024 16:22

Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 13:00

i was able to lay down for the first time last night. Still was painful but progress.

That's good. Glad you're managing to lie down. It will make all the difference if you can get some proper rest.
Have you managed to get a Physio appointment, or anything? Do take care.

Allofaflutter · 18/04/2024 13:00

i was able to lay down for the first time last night. Still was painful but progress.

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Allofaflutter · 17/04/2024 16:31

I’m having periods of less pain, inbetween excruciating pain. Still can’t lay down but can sit. Took 10ml of morphine for the bad pain so flying high! Legs still numb and I’m still unsteady. Thanks for asking.

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MêmePasPeur · 17/04/2024 11:25

How are you doing today OP?

pelotonaddiction · 16/04/2024 21:06

@HollaHolla they wouldn't let me! To be fair I had driven myself to hospital with cauda equina and the surgeon called me wilful...

CastleCrasher · 16/04/2024 21:01

One to add to the great advice you've already had - if a tens machine works at all for you, maybe get yourself a tens pen too. It's literally like a fat pen that you can zap yourself when you need it. When mine is bad I carry the pen with me to work, shopping etc and can use it when needed. Also great in the middle of the night for relief without having to faff about with pads and wires.

HollaHolla · 16/04/2024 20:54

Triflelife · 16/04/2024 18:26

@HollaHolla sorry for jumping on your post but was wondering if the surgery solved your foot drop? I have a bit of residual foot drop (5 months in - much improved on what it was though) but still a fair bit of numbness. It’s a bit like my leg isn’t my own anymore and feels so odd and alien still I’m constantly aware of it. The neurosurgeon doesn’t recommend surgery as the benefits aren’t guaranteed but interesting to hear from someone had surgery and if there was a benefit?

It’s no problem. I’m happy to help if I can.
I do have a little bit of residual foot drop, unfortunately. It’s been almost 10 years since the first op, so it’s here to stay….
I don’t notice it so much, unless I’m really tired/worn out, and I get trippy. I don’t wear any shoes that don’t stay well on my feet either, as I still have numbness in about a third of my foot (two littlest toes, and the outside edge.)

They do say that nerves are the slowest to heal, and you’re looking at about an inch a month. If you’ve got legs like mine (5’7”, and longish legs) , they are just over 40 inches outside leg. So; the nurse told me that I would only know that we were at the final outcome, at about 3.5 years!!!

HollaHolla · 16/04/2024 20:49

pelotonaddiction · 16/04/2024 19:52

Mine was pretty swift so there wasn't much thinking thankfully
It was more "you'll be paralysed if we don't operate but if we do you might also be paralysed. Or die"

Thanks(!) so reassuring...

It’s terrifying, isn’t it? You feel like you’re quite literally signing your life away….
I insisted on walking to theatre, as I was terrified I wouldn’t be able to, if it went wrong. 😬

pelotonaddiction · 16/04/2024 19:52

Mine was pretty swift so there wasn't much thinking thankfully
It was more "you'll be paralysed if we don't operate but if we do you might also be paralysed. Or die"

Thanks(!) so reassuring...

Triflelife · 16/04/2024 19:15

@pelotonaddiction thanks that’s good to know. The neurosurgeon said he really didn't recommend I have surgery but if I want to push for it will be open to discussion. Just feels like a big weight of a decision.

pelotonaddiction · 16/04/2024 19:00

Triflelife · 16/04/2024 18:26

@HollaHolla sorry for jumping on your post but was wondering if the surgery solved your foot drop? I have a bit of residual foot drop (5 months in - much improved on what it was though) but still a fair bit of numbness. It’s a bit like my leg isn’t my own anymore and feels so odd and alien still I’m constantly aware of it. The neurosurgeon doesn’t recommend surgery as the benefits aren’t guaranteed but interesting to hear from someone had surgery and if there was a benefit?

I had emergency surgery L5/S1 and it resolved my foot drop
The only remaining things I have are
Slight numb foot and leg
Occasionally back pain

Triflelife · 16/04/2024 18:26

@HollaHolla sorry for jumping on your post but was wondering if the surgery solved your foot drop? I have a bit of residual foot drop (5 months in - much improved on what it was though) but still a fair bit of numbness. It’s a bit like my leg isn’t my own anymore and feels so odd and alien still I’m constantly aware of it. The neurosurgeon doesn’t recommend surgery as the benefits aren’t guaranteed but interesting to hear from someone had surgery and if there was a benefit?

Allofaflutter · 16/04/2024 17:58

Amazon also delivered a sciatica cushion of memory foam so I have managed to sit down! And dozed for 2 whole hours 😊

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Allofaflutter · 16/04/2024 17:56

I really do appreciate each and every bit of support and suggestions. I love the MN hive mind.

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Allofaflutter · 16/04/2024 17:54

Dr has upped my diazepam to 4mg and oromorph to 10ml and said I can call tomorrow for gabapentin if I’m still as bad tomorrow. He also was amazed they hadn’t kept me in when I went in as I was screaming at them.

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TheWayBackHome · 16/04/2024 15:45

OP - I had what sounds to be similar to you. It turned out to be ruptured/severed/compressed discs.

The pain was bad enough to use (a lot of) oromorph, slowly taking it down to codeine, plus gabapentin (nerve meds). Gabapentin made a big difference - it may be worth asking your GP about getting some of these.

It took me a couple of months to recover properly, without surgery, so prepare yourself for that possibility.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 13:46

Allofaflutter · 16/04/2024 13:05

I can’t lift my leg or knee up very far so I can’t pull it up to my chest or lift my leg more than 30cm. Hardly managed to lift it enough to do the stairs. But thank you.

Thinking about it, I can only do that when it's at its normal (ha!) levels of constant pain. The other week I couldn't do anything, not even speak when it spasmed. The act of DH placing a TENS pad on my back reduced me to tears. I'm so sorry, it really is extraordinary pain.

HollaHolla · 16/04/2024 13:28

It sounds like you might have a bit of foot drop. Which is what led to my 1st (& 2nd) surgeries. I did have to wait 19 months from onset of symptoms to surgery, however... the waiting lists were mental at the time (10 years ago; I was in the area where the Head of Neurosurgery wasn't actually qualified, and did some terrible things to people.... thankfully not me!)

What I would recommend is, if you have it, throw some money at getting really good Physio input, to keep you as mobile and functional as possible. You need to keep as strong as you can, although it is painful. Check that the Physio has extensive spinal/disc herniation experience (they don't all have it), and really concentrate on that. They can make a massive difference. Even now, after 11 years of the pain, I notice the difference when I let it slip.

I would say that surgery isn't everything. If you can avoid it, my advice is, do that. I've had 4, and my surgeon says that, barring something fairly catastrophic, he won't go back in there.
No 1 was because of the foot drop, mainly. I also had numbness, and pain, of course. That was a microdiscectomy at L4/L5 & L5/S1; laminectomy, and nerve root decompression.
No 2 was 11 days later, because I re-herniated on day 7. It was a clean up of what had been done in No 1.
No 3 was 5 years ago, and I'd developed Cauda Equina, so was a middle of the night kind of thing.. GP to A&E, then transfer to a hospital with a neuro unit, then MRI, then decision for surgery. That was another microdiscectomy at L4/L5 & L5/S1, and nerve root decompression.
No 4 was 2 weeks later, as I developed a post-op infection, and a bunch of puss was seeping from my spinal column area. So, that was nice.

It might also be worth seeing if you can get any nerve root injections, which are a bit like an epidural for the nerve. I've had 6 of those, with varying success - but if they work, it's blessed relief for long enough to get moving again.

You have my greatest sympathy; I wouldn't wish this on very many people in the world.

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