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Dog attacking child - not stopping to help

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Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 09:36

So, I’m walking my dogs on the beach. See a border collie on a lead being walked by what I presume is mum, dad and child. No problem - my dogs are trained to come to me whenever they see another dog (not that they go far tbh).

BC is clearly not friendly. It’s frozen. Stiff. Licking its lips as I go by. No issue. Give it a wide birth (10 or so meters given the tide is high) keep half an eye on it. Owners don’t real it in and keep it on the log line (full length stretched with dog nearly choking itself).

Child (about 8/9) walks up to dog as parents watch and wraps its arms around the dogs neck from behind. Obviously the dog attacks child. Parents wrestle dog off child.

Now, here is my am I being unreasonable - I didn’t stop. I just kept walking. Kid had two parents with him and I had my dogs nearby waiting to walk on. As I walked away I got a tonne of abuse for not stopping. But why would I? IMO the dog had attack its owners child and if it’s going to do that then I am not going near it. Partner says IWU not to help.

OP posts:
KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 15:35

Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 15:28

I posted because my partner made me question my decision. But the more I think about it, the more content I am that I made the right decision.

It is 100% okay to walk away from an injured child if, (A) that child has their parents with them, (B) there is phone signal (which there is along that beach so they could have called for help if needed), (C) if your presence would likely exacerbate the situation and (D) it is nothing to do with you.

I did nothing wrong. I was as far away as I could be. My dogs did nothing wrong. This is 100% on the parents for having an out of control dog and not paying attention to their child. I'm sad the child was likely hurt, but it's not my fault and not my responsibility - particularly if me coming closer would have made it worse, which it would have.

You did nothing wrong OP, ignore those saying you did. It is good to question our actions sometimes, which you've done, but still be happy we did the right thing to start with.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 15:33

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:21

The fact they are posting on here shows they know they were wrong and are seeking reassurance from strangers.
It's never OK to walk away from a child who may very well need your help. Didn't even as much look back or see if an ambulance was needed? Come on now!

No, it doesn't show they 'were wrong', because they weren't.
It's always ok not to get involved with a dog who is nothing to do with you.
Maybe you need to 'come on now'.

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:32

Cool when then if you're happy with your choice that's great for you.

Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 15:28

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:21

The fact they are posting on here shows they know they were wrong and are seeking reassurance from strangers.
It's never OK to walk away from a child who may very well need your help. Didn't even as much look back or see if an ambulance was needed? Come on now!

I posted because my partner made me question my decision. But the more I think about it, the more content I am that I made the right decision.

It is 100% okay to walk away from an injured child if, (A) that child has their parents with them, (B) there is phone signal (which there is along that beach so they could have called for help if needed), (C) if your presence would likely exacerbate the situation and (D) it is nothing to do with you.

I did nothing wrong. I was as far away as I could be. My dogs did nothing wrong. This is 100% on the parents for having an out of control dog and not paying attention to their child. I'm sad the child was likely hurt, but it's not my fault and not my responsibility - particularly if me coming closer would have made it worse, which it would have.

OP posts:
anyolddinosaur · 14/04/2024 15:28

Not a dog owner. Aggressive dog attacking a child from it's own "pack" - I wouldnt go near it.

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:28

I assume that's a mention for me @gindreams
I know. I said didn't look back to see if one was needed? I didn't say "phone 999 immediately and demand one?" Point is could've waited from a safe space to ensure all was OK. That's what I would imagine most people would think of as reasonable? Not just going off home? That's the point of OPs post?

gindreams · 14/04/2024 15:24

@6Y5T it might not have needed an ambulance ? You do realise that all these wasted calls to emergency services delay other people getting help

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:21

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 15:13

The fact that she is asking on here shows she does have compassion, however that doesn't mean she has to put herself or others in a potentially dangerous situation because of someone else's negligence.

The fact they are posting on here shows they know they were wrong and are seeking reassurance from strangers.
It's never OK to walk away from a child who may very well need your help. Didn't even as much look back or see if an ambulance was needed? Come on now!

MsLuxLisbon · 14/04/2024 15:17

Cammac · 14/04/2024 15:10

The other dog owned screamed obscenities at an owner of two very well behaved dogs who had passed whilst their DC was being attacked by their own dog?

I’d be interested to hear the other side of the story.

What other side? Chavs gon' chav. As someone said earlier, typical for the Jeremy Kyle rejects you get on some beaches.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 15:13

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 14:24

See and that's what's apparently wrong with the world.
She should have been concerned for the child. She should have shown some concern or compassion for them.
I'm not saying it's not the parents fault but the lack of compassion makes me feel sick.

The fact that she is asking on here shows she does have compassion, however that doesn't mean she has to put herself or others in a potentially dangerous situation because of someone else's negligence.

Cammac · 14/04/2024 15:10

The other dog owned screamed obscenities at an owner of two very well behaved dogs who had passed whilst their DC was being attacked by their own dog?

I’d be interested to hear the other side of the story.

0sm0nthus · 14/04/2024 15:03

It seems concerning to me that the parents were behaving aggressively towards a passer by whilst their child was being attacked by their dog!

rainbowunicorn · 14/04/2024 15:00

I really despair at the level of reading comprehension on here sometimes. It is perfectly clear from the OP that the dog owners were the parents of the child.

Gotbanned · 14/04/2024 14:50

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 14:24

See and that's what's apparently wrong with the world.
She should have been concerned for the child. She should have shown some concern or compassion for them.
I'm not saying it's not the parents fault but the lack of compassion makes me feel sick.

Actually, I think the brain dead parents calling the woman a stupid bitch are what’s wrong with the world.

I would imagine OP is actually quite worried about the child, since she phoned the police and wrote a post about it. She trusted her instincts but was made to doubt them by the abuse she received from the dog owners and then her partner not backing her up.

Why should she walk into a situation that could have got her and her dogs injured too? As most people have said, going nearer with her two dogs could have made things 10 times worse.

OP you trusted your instincts and did the right thing, no good would have come from helping those people. You. called the police which was all you could do. There is no way I would have gone back to people acting aggressively torwards me. FWIW If I was worried about my kid I think I would be pleading for help not shouting abuse, to a random stranger just walking by.

Pudmyboy · 14/04/2024 14:49

@Idioticparents you did everything right, as other poster have said, it DARVO, they and their dog is at fault, entirely and absolutely, but they are too cowardly to admit that, has to be someone else's fault: you will do! Even their dog getting riled up by your dogs is to do with their (lack of) control of their own dog. Hope you feel okay.

rainbowunicorn · 14/04/2024 14:48

newnamechange98 · 14/04/2024 10:03

So if I've understood this correctly the child who got attacked was not part of the family who have the dog?

So the child who got attacked has parents who allow them to go up to random dogs and put their arms around the dog like it's a toy with no acknowledgement of whether the dog wants this to happen? Completely and totally unacceptable. How did they expect the dog to react?!? It was also a risk this would happen.

I'm very, very sorry for the poor child but no one should be doing with any dog let alone one you don't know.

You haven't understood correctly.

SoupChicken · 14/04/2024 14:42

So their dog attacked their child and it’s your fault because you were walking past? If they can’t control their dogs or their children then they don’t deserve either.

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 14/04/2024 14:34

I wouldn’t have stopped if I was with my dog. He can be reactive to aggressive dogs and bringing him into the situation would have made everything worse. I also wouldn’t have wanted him to get hurt. I don’t think it was your responsibility to stop.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 14/04/2024 14:28

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 14:24

See and that's what's apparently wrong with the world.
She should have been concerned for the child. She should have shown some concern or compassion for them.
I'm not saying it's not the parents fault but the lack of compassion makes me feel sick.

No.
Patents and owners like that are what's wrong.

People have the right to not want to deal with shit, drama and Jeremy Kyle rejects that they have no business with.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 14:25

YANBU.
Dog owner should have had dog on closer lead.
Guardian of child should teach them/prevent them from touching random dogs.

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 14:24

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 14/04/2024 14:12

She doesn't actually need to have concern for the child.
It's not her circus or her monkey

See and that's what's apparently wrong with the world.
She should have been concerned for the child. She should have shown some concern or compassion for them.
I'm not saying it's not the parents fault but the lack of compassion makes me feel sick.

0sm0nthus · 14/04/2024 14:19

Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 10:02

The parents! We were alone on the beach - the only reason I got as close as I did was the tide/long line lead (their dog).

Typical dog owners always trying to blame other people for problems caused by their dog.
A little while ago I was cycling in a cycle lane, a woman's dog ran out in front of me (nearly had me off my bike) she tried to tell ME off for not helping her catch her dog🤬
The owners were embarrassed because they were in the wrong and and someone witnessed it, this was a DARVO (deny accuse reverse victim and offender) they can't accept that they're wrong so they lashed out at you.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 14/04/2024 14:12

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 13:19

I really couldn't imagine walking off if a child had been attacked by a god. I really hope this is made up because you sound like the victim here and no concern for the child at all. Likely more to it than you've let on

She doesn't actually need to have concern for the child.
It's not her circus or her monkey

Whatifthehokeycokey · 14/04/2024 14:10

I think it would have been a very different scenario if it had attacked a stranger's child, but with two parents there and their dog attacking their own child, I would have stayed well out of it.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 14/04/2024 14:08

TimeGrabsYouByTheWrist · 14/04/2024 10:15

YABVU for not stopping.

You should have stopped but kept your distance, made sure your dogs were secure (put on leads) then checked the child was OK from distance.

Moving closer with your own dogs would have made the situation worse bur it was wrong to walk off. I would have phoned the police there and then as I'd be worried the family would brush the whole thing off when clearly the dog should not be with a family that has a child.

I'd phone the police again and ask for an update.

Why?
There's 2 adults there almost certainly with phones.
Enough cooks for that shit show of a kitchen

OP did not need to risk her or her dogs for those morons.

Whatever happened and the consequence of that event are solely on the parents to manage.