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Dog attacking child - not stopping to help

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Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 09:36

So, I’m walking my dogs on the beach. See a border collie on a lead being walked by what I presume is mum, dad and child. No problem - my dogs are trained to come to me whenever they see another dog (not that they go far tbh).

BC is clearly not friendly. It’s frozen. Stiff. Licking its lips as I go by. No issue. Give it a wide birth (10 or so meters given the tide is high) keep half an eye on it. Owners don’t real it in and keep it on the log line (full length stretched with dog nearly choking itself).

Child (about 8/9) walks up to dog as parents watch and wraps its arms around the dogs neck from behind. Obviously the dog attacks child. Parents wrestle dog off child.

Now, here is my am I being unreasonable - I didn’t stop. I just kept walking. Kid had two parents with him and I had my dogs nearby waiting to walk on. As I walked away I got a tonne of abuse for not stopping. But why would I? IMO the dog had attack its owners child and if it’s going to do that then I am not going near it. Partner says IWU not to help.

OP posts:
KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 16:43

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:38

Ridiculous! I don't need to "come on now" because if ever I saw another human being who may need medical assistance- least of all a child, I would never ever walk away until I knew everything was OK.
This is society now "pull the ladder up jack" I'm fine. That's all that matters and it makes me sad and I'm shocked so many people agree that it's fine.

Nonsense.

K0OLA1D · 14/04/2024 16:33

ImNotReallySpartacus · 14/04/2024 16:09

It's almost as if off-lead dogs, long leads and dogs on beaches were a recipe for disaster isn't it?

In all my years of dog ownership, I have never had a disaster with my off lead dog on a beach.

Could be, that some people are just completely irresponsible

Tessisme · 14/04/2024 16:33

If you read my previous posts about being a safe distance and to visually check everything was OK. 🙄
That's being a responsible human 😊

The OP has stated that she called the police when she returned to her car. THAT'S being a responsible human. What use would she have been standing there gawping just for show, so that people could satisfy themselves that she had done the right thing? Not very helpful or practical.

Chasingthewilddeer · 14/04/2024 16:29

It wouldn't have helped keeping your dogs in the vicinity

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 16:25

DaisyHaites · 14/04/2024 15:46

So if I had been OP, walking my reactive dog inclined to pack behaviour (who is well trained enough that I can keep her attention on me while passing other dogs, but absolutely not trained enough to stay away from me while I walk into a situation with an attacking dog and might be inclined to join the dog in attacking anything any anybody as a fear response), you think the right thing would be for me to introduce my dog to the situation (that I can’t actually make any better with or without my dog) which could feasibly result in two dogs attacking the child?

Cool, I’ll remember that for future.

Or I might continue to be a responsible dog owner and keep my dog out of scenarios that they’re not well trained enough to be in.

If you read my previous posts about being a safe distance and to visually check everything was OK. 🙄
That's being a responsible human 😊

SoupDragon · 14/04/2024 16:20

Staying with two off-lead dogs with you would have been stupid! The best thing you could have done is to leave and remove your dogs from the area.

Alittlefrustrated · 14/04/2024 16:12

You did the right thing OP - your interference/attempt to help would have escalated the situation. Move on from this thread, there is no reason to doubt yourself. I wouldn't be impressed with your DP suggesting otherwise.

ImNotReallySpartacus · 14/04/2024 16:09

It's almost as if off-lead dogs, long leads and dogs on beaches were a recipe for disaster isn't it?

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/04/2024 15:54

Sounds like they've got a fearful dog reactive dog that was on edge simply because of the presence of your dogs + totally mishandled by the owners (no attempts to get the dog closer to them, distract dog, get more distance from you etc etc)... and then their kid exacerbated the situation by grabbing their dog, at which point the dog redirected onto their kid.

Totally their fault in every way.

You going nearer, with or without your dogs, would almost certainly have made matters worse.

I do not understand what other posters think you should have done - last I looked, beaches often have absolutely nothing one could tie a dog to - a dog that is fearful and aggressive and being mishandled by its owners is not going to improve with the addition of a total stranger either. Particularly if its owners are going to scream and yell at that stranger for having the audacity to exist, with her dogs, in a public place!

Daniki · 14/04/2024 15:54

I can't understand how anyone thinks you've been unreasonable??! You were the only reasonable one in the situation by the sounds of it, could you imagine how much worse it could of been if you had took your dogs over! 🙈

stayathomer · 14/04/2024 15:53

Personally I think I’d have stopped and shouted to ask if they needed help or something, it’s more to just ask, in the way you slow down for a fender bender and ask do people need help even if they’re all on phones just to shop someone is willing to help

Lavenderandbrown · 14/04/2024 15:53

their dog their child their situation. Absolutely I would have walked on to safety with my two dogs. You also could also have been attacked. Sorry but I do believe in today’s world people are just as likely to run away from problematic situations as towards them. I think something is going down in a store or restaurant I am out of there immediately and yes I have done this
IRL. Their dog their child their problems.

CuttingMeOpenthenHealingMeFine · 14/04/2024 15:50

0sm0nthus · 14/04/2024 15:03

It seems concerning to me that the parents were behaving aggressively towards a passer by whilst their child was being attacked by their dog!

Yes which makes me question the situation tbh. I cannot see any parent, who is witnessing their child being attacked by a dog, whether it’s their own dog or not, having even the least bit awareness of what some random person is doing.

This seems like (yet another) stupid entitled parents thread where everyone is going to jump on about how everyone expects other people to prioritise their children blah blah blah.

Pancakeorcrepe · 14/04/2024 15:48

What a messy situation created by those people, they clearly are not good parents or good dog owners. If you did try to help you would still get shouted at, for interfering. You did the only possible thing.

DaisyHaites · 14/04/2024 15:46

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:21

The fact they are posting on here shows they know they were wrong and are seeking reassurance from strangers.
It's never OK to walk away from a child who may very well need your help. Didn't even as much look back or see if an ambulance was needed? Come on now!

So if I had been OP, walking my reactive dog inclined to pack behaviour (who is well trained enough that I can keep her attention on me while passing other dogs, but absolutely not trained enough to stay away from me while I walk into a situation with an attacking dog and might be inclined to join the dog in attacking anything any anybody as a fear response), you think the right thing would be for me to introduce my dog to the situation (that I can’t actually make any better with or without my dog) which could feasibly result in two dogs attacking the child?

Cool, I’ll remember that for future.

Or I might continue to be a responsible dog owner and keep my dog out of scenarios that they’re not well trained enough to be in.

Lucytheloose · 14/04/2024 15:45

Jom222 · 14/04/2024 15:37

If the childs parent(s) were there, and you had dogs with you it would
have potentially made things worse to stay. An out of control dog that just attacked a child isn’t going to react nicely to more people AND strange dogs in that situation.

what did they expect you to do?

Get bitten, presumably.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 14/04/2024 15:45

For those playing Mumsnet Bingo:

You don't have a (dog attack) problem. You have a DP problem.

(I expect he just misunderstood.)

Elphame · 14/04/2024 15:42

I think you did totally the right thing.

Adding additional dogs to the mix would have made things far worse and without having anything to physically tie them to you couldn't rely on them to continue to obey a "stay" command if they thought you were being threatened.

The parents sound the sort who shouldn't be allowed to have children or dogs.

Luckycloverz · 14/04/2024 15:42

Hoglet70 · 14/04/2024 09:48

That would have created chaos if you had introduced your dogs into that situation when the parents were there anyway! Child alone attacked by random dog, of course you would try and help but this was their problem.

This 👍🏻

MsLuxLisbon · 14/04/2024 15:39

Believing8nSanta · 14/04/2024 15:36

Doesn't sound like they wanted help. Sounds like they looked for someone to blame. Good thing you walked away. Your partner is being unreasonable. These people were rude and horrible.

This is spot on. I would honestly worry that if OP had stepped in and helped, these yobs would have found a way to blame her dogs. Worst case scenario, one of her dogs might have been destroyed. No way would I risk that. It sounds as if the kid got a nip, which is nasty but not life threatening. It isn't as if the child had been ripped to shreds and was bleeding out, obviously that would be a whole other scenario and not one that anyone would be posting about on Mumsnet! I am sorry for both the child and the dog for having such useless caregivers.

Fraaahnces · 14/04/2024 15:38

They were trying to blame your dogs for the attack their dog made on their own child. You bloody bet you did exactly the right thing giving them a wide berth. Your dogs started it my arse! They would have sued you for sure!

justanotherrandomperson · 14/04/2024 15:38

I wouldn't have gotten involved, either. Two adults were already on the scene, and the situation would only be worse if the dogs started fighting, so the best thing was to put some distance between them. I'm not certain what they thought you could have done to help, under the circumstances, as surely they had a phone between them to call for help, if needed. Most likely they'd just have yelled at you some more, blamed you, and possibly threatened you.

Cantgetausername87 · 14/04/2024 15:38

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/04/2024 15:33

No, it doesn't show they 'were wrong', because they weren't.
It's always ok not to get involved with a dog who is nothing to do with you.
Maybe you need to 'come on now'.

Ridiculous! I don't need to "come on now" because if ever I saw another human being who may need medical assistance- least of all a child, I would never ever walk away until I knew everything was OK.
This is society now "pull the ladder up jack" I'm fine. That's all that matters and it makes me sad and I'm shocked so many people agree that it's fine.

Jom222 · 14/04/2024 15:37

If the childs parent(s) were there, and you had dogs with you it would
have potentially made things worse to stay. An out of control dog that just attacked a child isn’t going to react nicely to more people AND strange dogs in that situation.

what did they expect you to do?

Believing8nSanta · 14/04/2024 15:36

Doesn't sound like they wanted help. Sounds like they looked for someone to blame. Good thing you walked away. Your partner is being unreasonable. These people were rude and horrible.