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Dog attacking child - not stopping to help

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Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 09:36

So, I’m walking my dogs on the beach. See a border collie on a lead being walked by what I presume is mum, dad and child. No problem - my dogs are trained to come to me whenever they see another dog (not that they go far tbh).

BC is clearly not friendly. It’s frozen. Stiff. Licking its lips as I go by. No issue. Give it a wide birth (10 or so meters given the tide is high) keep half an eye on it. Owners don’t real it in and keep it on the log line (full length stretched with dog nearly choking itself).

Child (about 8/9) walks up to dog as parents watch and wraps its arms around the dogs neck from behind. Obviously the dog attacks child. Parents wrestle dog off child.

Now, here is my am I being unreasonable - I didn’t stop. I just kept walking. Kid had two parents with him and I had my dogs nearby waiting to walk on. As I walked away I got a tonne of abuse for not stopping. But why would I? IMO the dog had attack its owners child and if it’s going to do that then I am not going near it. Partner says IWU not to help.

OP posts:
IDontOftenComment · 14/04/2024 17:56

I hope your dogs were on a lead OP, knowing that they would be passing another dog so closely, they should be on a short, tight lead. Leaving them roaming was always going to antagonise the other dog.

Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 17:49

Yousay55 · 14/04/2024 17:38

Op, if you are certain that your dogs did nothing wrong and you were fine in the way you behaved, why does your dp say you were unreasonable?
We only have your side of the incident, but it does seem odd that your dp & the parents of the child think otherwise.
Perhaps have another think and hopefully this won’t happen again.

He thinks that I should have left my dogs in a sit/wait and gone to check the child was okay given how serious dog attacks can be.

My argument to him is that dogs are still dogs. No matter how well trained I think my dogs are (and they really are very well trained), there is always a chance that if the other dog had attacked me they might have responded. We've all seen stories of dogs coming to their owners aid when their owner has been attacked- even usually placid dogs. Was I going to risk my dogs? No. Was I going to risk exacerbating the situation? No.

OP posts:
BarbarasRhabarberBar · 14/04/2024 17:43

ExtraOnions · 14/04/2024 17:02

All dogs should be on leads in public places ..

It would be great if they were all required to be muzzled as well

I agree with this. The problem is most people don't agree and even more have zero control over their dogs. I regularly have to kick dogs to get them away from my on lead, under control dog. I then get loads of shit from the owners, which I understand but they never seem to understand their part in the situation.

OP, sounds like these owners do not understand they need to control their dogs response to yours and are blaming you for how their dog decided to respond. I see why your DH says you should have stopped but honestly, what good would have come? Two adults are fully able to assist their hurt child and they only wanted you there to shout at you anyway.

Yousay55 · 14/04/2024 17:38

Op, if you are certain that your dogs did nothing wrong and you were fine in the way you behaved, why does your dp say you were unreasonable?
We only have your side of the incident, but it does seem odd that your dp & the parents of the child think otherwise.
Perhaps have another think and hopefully this won’t happen again.

oakleaffy · 14/04/2024 17:37

So many idiots with dogs.

Saw a rather scruffy group with a strong mutt on a specialised lead and harness, that was given to a small child to hold.

Aggressive mutt tore free from the child and tried to attack a very peaceful woman's dog- the aggressive mutt's owners has zero control {they never do}

Only a completely clueless person would give a clearly powerful dog to a child to hold the lead - and only cretinous parents would allow their child to grab their nasty dog from behind.

AngryBookworm · 14/04/2024 17:31

You did the right thing getting your dogs away. Baffling that they BOTH blamed your dogs for 'starting' it AND expected you to get nearer - but this all makes sense when seen through the lens that they are just projecting blame onto you, so they don't have to think about how much they put their child at risk. Even as someone without dogs I'd be wary of just 'helping' in a dog attack - more likely to call 999 from a safe distance - and if I had a dog with me I wouldn't approach at all.

Saschka · 14/04/2024 17:29

'FUCKING STUPID BITCH', 'FUCKING COME BACK HERE' 'HER FUCKING DOGS STARTED IT' (whilst the charming parents yelled at each other over who was at fault...)

So they weren’t asking you to please come back and help them, they were yelling at you to come back so they could “sort you out” because they blame you for their dog being aggressive.

You were right to walk away, you could have been thumped or your dogs hurt if you’d gone back. Doesn’t sound like their needed your help with the child, they just wanted to lamp you.

bridgetreilly · 14/04/2024 17:25

Bonkers. There are two of them unable to control one dog and one child, but you, with multiple dogs on your own are supposed to be able to sort things out.

Lavender14 · 14/04/2024 17:21

What a horrific situation.

In order to help in that type of scenario firstly you need to be prepared to put yourself in physical danger and secondly you need to be in a position to do so.

If I was out walking with my dog or with ds my first instinct would be to do exactly as you have, get my dog and child out of danger and away from the situation so they can't exacerbate it or be harmed by it and ring someone who can help like emergency services.

I can understand the family wanting you to help but realistically I don't think there was much you could have done without inflaming things with your own dogs. You also could have made a reactive dog you don't know feel more threatened by approaching.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 14/04/2024 17:20

You did nothing wrong- if you had gone over (to do what?) the situation could have escalated. Dad should have removed dog from situation /distracted dog.

They sound charming.

ManchesterBeatrice · 14/04/2024 17:18

Meh, parents were at fault for letting child startle the dog.

You did nothing wrong.

theholesinmyapologies · 14/04/2024 17:17

Idioticparents · 14/04/2024 13:13

It was an attack. The child wrapped its arms around the dog, and the dog turned, jumped, and made contact with the child's body. The child screamed.

I kept walking.

The yelling eventually stopped when (I assume) the parents got the dog off. I wasn't looking at them any more as I'd walked past them and to do so I would have had to turn round and take my eyes off my own dogs.

'FUCKING STUPID BITCH', 'FUCKING COME BACK HERE' 'HER FUCKING DOGS STARTED IT' (whilst the charming parents yelled at each other over who was at fault...).

For ease, my dogs were in the shallow tide walking next to me. I was on the beach. The parents were by the rock face (it's cliffs on one side). Their dog was halfway between them and me on a long line. I physically could not get further away because of the sea unless I fancied a dip. Which I didn't.

They just wanted to blame you for their failures to safeguard their child and control their dog.

You were right to keep walking; it was entirely on them, but they weren't going to take responsibility.

Viviennemary · 14/04/2024 17:13

I think it would be unwise to have got involved. They sound the type of people who would turn on you and blame you for interfering.

WhatWhereWho · 14/04/2024 17:10

WhatWhereWho · 14/04/2024 16:52

So a scared dog turned and barked at the kid? Why do you need to call it an attack FFS? Totally sensationalist and overblown description if even true.
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If this is true. Poor kid being raised by such stupid parents and poor dog being owned by such tears.

Twats not tears. Bloody typo.

OpalHedgehog · 14/04/2024 17:10

Edit: In response to ExtraOnions

Always one 🙄 requirement for all dogs to wear a muzzle, really?

FrogTheWarrior · 14/04/2024 17:04

What did the police say?

Andthereyougo · 14/04/2024 17:04

You’d have made it worse by rushing in, your dogs probably would have followed sensing danger. There’d have been more people and dogs bitten.

K0OLA1D · 14/04/2024 17:04

ExtraOnions · 14/04/2024 17:02

All dogs should be on leads in public places ..

It would be great if they were all required to be muzzled as well

Except they don't need to be. So pretty pointless statement really.

They need to be under control, which, a responsible owner manages with or without a lead.

I don't see why people who put all the training in need to be the ones to pay the price for pricks who can't control their dog.

Your argument doesn't even make sense in this situation anyway, as the problem dog was on a lead!

ExtraOnions · 14/04/2024 17:02

All dogs should be on leads in public places ..

It would be great if they were all required to be muzzled as well

BusySwan · 14/04/2024 17:01

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 12:20

Too weird for words.

THIS!!

If I was walking with my dog off lead and I see another dog on a lead , clearly its for a reason and I ensure my well trained dog steers well clear. If it goes close , that's my problem as the other dog owner has put a lead on theirs, and mine hasn't.

Now if I've steered my dog clear of the other dog on lead, and kid with the dog manhandles the dog and it turns on them, how in God's Earth is that my fault?

The only excuse the parents have for shouting abuse if the OP's dog went up to theirs on a lead, and if the dog is such a anxiety, aggressive mess, why the f*ck have they got it on a long lead??

Blibbleflibble · 14/04/2024 16:58

K0OLA1D · 14/04/2024 16:55

Op called the police

Fair enough then, I must have missed that. As long as the child wasn't in need of medical assistance and they needed OP to send for help then it was fair to remove herself and the dogs.

K0OLA1D · 14/04/2024 16:55

Blibbleflibble · 14/04/2024 16:54

I probably would have done something either then or when I got a phone signal to help the child. The kid was mauled by their dog and the parents were hurling abuse at you?! Surely you believe that incident needs to be reported to safeguard the child?

Op called the police

Blibbleflibble · 14/04/2024 16:54

I probably would have done something either then or when I got a phone signal to help the child. The kid was mauled by their dog and the parents were hurling abuse at you?! Surely you believe that incident needs to be reported to safeguard the child?

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WhatWhereWho · 14/04/2024 16:52

So a scared dog turned and barked at the kid? Why do you need to call it an attack FFS? Totally sensationalist and overblown description if even true.
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If this is true. Poor kid being raised by such stupid parents and poor dog being owned by such tears.