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To not want to give up my day off?

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justbecool25 · 13/04/2024 22:43

I suspect I might be BU

I've been with my partner for 7 years and he has a 16 yo DS, we have a good relationship. When he was 13 he first attempted suicide and he's been struggling mentally since with many other attempts. He seemed to be doing well for a while but he's been struggling again recently. CAHMS are involved but can't do much.

His mum told partner she can't cope with him struggling and so he's been living with us full time for around a month. He has told DP he feels abit better as he has his own space (he was sharing a room at his mums) and our house is a lot quieter but a few nights ago he asked DP to stay with him as he was having suicidal thoughts. And since then DP has been staying with him every night and not letting him out of his sight.

He works from home usually but once a month he needs to go into the office, this is Monday. Stepson is off school currently due to his mental health and school are putting more pressure on him about exams which isn't helping him mentally. Professionals agree.

I've got a day off on Monday and had planned to meet with a friend for a coffee then look around shops but DP has now asked me to stay home with stepson to keep an eye on him.

I know I'm probably BU but I don't want to give my day off up. AIBU? I do love and care for stepson, I'm aware this thread may not seem like it.

OP posts:
bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:57

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 11:19

Well played on the manipulation there. That's not why you posted 3 laughing emojis. I cannot be doing with the manipulation so I won't bother you again. We can agree to disagree.

💯

Weird how she thinks OP, who is reading, should see her laughing emojis making light of this.

adviceneeded1990 · 14/04/2024 11:57

bellezarara · 13/04/2024 22:54

I can’t believe you don’t realise the actual mum or dad should be looking after their actual child.

I’d help a complete stranger in this situation. As would many others on this thread. Better hope you never suffer extreme mental health crisis and everyone just says it’s someone else’s job to care about you.

CoffeeCup14 · 14/04/2024 11:57

I don't think it's as simple as 'should you or shouldn't you'. It's about the risk, and the costs/benefits of different options, and tye relationship/responsibility you have to your DH and SS. I have lived experience of parenting a suicidal teen and it is really hard work and involves difficult decisions.

  • Do you tend to have a level of parental relationship and (non-legal) responsibility to him? Do you and your DH make shared decisions about him or does your DH make the decisions and then talk to you about your involvement in them (in a positive way)?
  • what is the risk of harm to your ss? Is he actively trying to kill himself, is he self-harming significantly or superficially, is he talking about wanting to die because he feels really really bad? None of these are good, and you can't ever know, but if you can work out what level the risk is, it helps to make decisions.
  • Is your coffee rearrangeable? Is it a friend who is back from abroad for a week and you won't get the chance again for at least a year?
  • Can DH miss work for once? Is it a team meeting where they all need to be there? Can he join by teams? Would his employer understand? What would the actual consequences be of this?

You could cancel your coffee, but equally DH could cancel work to care for an ill child. It's unfortunate but that's what parents have to do sometimes. I think I would say the same if it was a shared child rather than step-child - sometimes it would be reasonable to ask one parent to take a day off work to care for an ill child if the other had a non-rearrangeable and significant leisure activity.

This does feel like a crisis, if the suicidal thoughts have just developed. But it can go on for a really long time, so it helps to try not to be too reactive.

Didimum · 14/04/2024 11:55

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 11:46

Of course we know this is brand new to the OP @Didimum just like it is brand new to her DP and the childs mother. Unless they have supported another teenager through the exact same thing. The point is, the OP isn't his parent. Not much has been said about the child's actual mother washing her hands of her son, the OP has stepped up, stays with the child while the childs father goes to football, yet because she wants to keep a one off arrangement with a friend she hasn't seen for a while, she has been called allsorts of vile things.
If this becomes too much for the OP what happens then? More upheaval for her dss. She needs to do things for herself. That isn't selfish, it's self care. If it were my son in this scenario I would be making sure my partner kept his plans. There is no way i would ask him to cancel his plans. I hope the OP's dp shows some appreciation for what she does to support him getting time to himself.

It depends on your meaning of ‘brand new’. By OP’s account, the first suicide attempt occurred 3 years ago, with other attempts within those 3 years. I don’t personally describe that as brand new. You might, however.

All I have commented on this thread is about the unhelpful conjecture and what I would do personally, so there is no need to lecture me on the OP’s position.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:54

newnamechange98 · 14/04/2024 11:50

@bellezarara i think gloomy is feeling down for a few hours not having to be watched by relatives cause due to risk of suicide

But it’s hardly a shocking word is it? Funny how that poster hasn’t objected to the poster berating OP for going for a coffee whilst her DSS ‘tops himself’.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:52

Didimum · 14/04/2024 11:44

I did not say you had, but other posters have.

The swearing post you mentioned was one post, not multiple, so there is no need to exaggerate the tone of the thread in general. Swearing at OP should not be tolerated, but that is a separate issue.

It wasn’t just one post. See the four posts below. The tone of the thread from the anti-step-mum thread has often been vicious.

Cut him some slack and watch his fucking kid for him.

Your partner must be in knots with worry about finding his child dead and you can’t put your feelings aside about missing a fucking coffee? Wow.

I’ll come and sit with the boy whilst you grab your coffee. I actually give a fuck about people.

Fuck me, I'd do that for any child in that situation, it is only one day! One day and all you have planned is going for a coffee?

Marblessolveeverything · 14/04/2024 11:52

@justbecool25 living with someone who is battling serious MH issues it is exhausting and very difficult.

Noone can do this without keeping themselves in as best MH personally. Go have your day, you need it.

It is very important that you and your DH get as much support yourself, have you any work based resources? There is MH first aid courses. I found them very helpful and it linked me in with people who could help deal with the impact others MH have on ourselves.

Enjoy your small respite.

newnamechange98 · 14/04/2024 11:50

@bellezarara i think gloomy is feeling down for a few hours not having to be watched by relatives cause due to risk of suicide

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:48

newnamechange98 · 14/04/2024 10:21

@SchadenfreudeIstMeinMittelname

Your reply to @JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit is quite shocking and shows literally zero empathy for the OP's SS.

Give over, gloomy just means feeling depression.

funinthesun19 · 14/04/2024 11:48

Tavimama · 14/04/2024 11:24

YABVVU - could you live with yourself if he were to go through with it? Aren't a few hours of your day a very small sacrifice to keep a child safe. Shameful reaction to this scenario in my opinion.

He won’t go through with it though will he, because if op doesn’t look after him his parent/s will be “forced” to. Which is fine because they’re his parents.

6pence · 14/04/2024 11:47

You booked special annual leave. That’s a bit different to a normal day off. I think you should explain that to dh! What would he do if you were at work as normal?
if it was a normal day off you’d be a bit unreasonable to refuse, but rare annual leave changes my response.

Or maybe friend could come to you?

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 14/04/2024 11:47

Has your partner tried to rearrange his office day or has he just assumed you’ll cancel your plans? I do think that on a one off basis you should support your partner and SS but it’s cheeky if he hasn’t exhausted all avenues.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:46

Didimum · 14/04/2024 10:14

I didn’t say the mental health issues were not there, I said the acute suicide ideation requiring him to have more constant presence had only been the last few nights.

Once again, you are inferring meaning when OP has given none. It is not necessary that posters compound invented issues when OP has not said or even suggested that the Saturdays are problematic for her.

But that’s not true. If OP is required to be with DSS every Saturday then she is being told that someone does need to be present by her DP.

You and others seem to want it both ways, that the DP is burnt out and needs the Saturday football break and for OP to cancel her annual leave but also simultaneously that none of this is a big deal as it’s only been happening for a few nights.

Make your mind up.

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 11:46

Of course we know this is brand new to the OP @Didimum just like it is brand new to her DP and the childs mother. Unless they have supported another teenager through the exact same thing. The point is, the OP isn't his parent. Not much has been said about the child's actual mother washing her hands of her son, the OP has stepped up, stays with the child while the childs father goes to football, yet because she wants to keep a one off arrangement with a friend she hasn't seen for a while, she has been called allsorts of vile things.
If this becomes too much for the OP what happens then? More upheaval for her dss. She needs to do things for herself. That isn't selfish, it's self care. If it were my son in this scenario I would be making sure my partner kept his plans. There is no way i would ask him to cancel his plans. I hope the OP's dp shows some appreciation for what she does to support him getting time to himself.

Didimum · 14/04/2024 11:44

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:39

Where have I told OP what to do?

My posts below:

DP should drop DS at his mum’s for the day.

I can’t believe you don’t realise the actual mum or dad should be looking after their actual child.

So they’re suggestions for what, y’know, the ACTUAL PARENTS should be doing.

Mincing words is a nice euphemism for nasty posts telling OP ‘fucking do this’ and ‘fucking do that’, whilst giving a free pass to the football going dad and the mum.

I did not say you had, but other posters have.

The swearing post you mentioned was one post, not multiple, so there is no need to exaggerate the tone of the thread in general. Swearing at OP should not be tolerated, but that is a separate issue.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:42

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bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:40

Livelovebehappy · 14/04/2024 10:13

Give over. Are you suggesting that our opinion on this would be different if it applies to the DM or DF? In the same situation if dm was coming on here to post the same, I’m pretty sure the general consensus would also be to stay at home instead of going out for a coffee.

That’s false equivalence. The parent isn’t posting here, the step-mum is posting here, so your analogy makes no sense.

cheeseandketchupsandwich · 14/04/2024 11:39

I haven't read the full thread.

I totally understand why you don't want to give up your day off.

Can you DH switch his day in the office as an emergency measure?

If you are their only option, I'd give up the day. I don't think I'd want to risk him doing something and regretting not being there.

I would then talk to DH and say as you weren't able to have your day off, you'd like a weekend or a Saturday or something to yourself and if he has to miss football then so be it.

I hope your SS gets better though I understand it's a hard road to be on Flowers

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:39

Didimum · 14/04/2024 10:19

But it’s fine for poster’s in support of her having the day off to tell her what she needs to do? Got it.

It’s almost as if people are less likely to mince their words when the life of a child is the topic of discussion …

Where have I told OP what to do?

My posts below:

DP should drop DS at his mum’s for the day.

I can’t believe you don’t realise the actual mum or dad should be looking after their actual child.

So they’re suggestions for what, y’know, the ACTUAL PARENTS should be doing.

Mincing words is a nice euphemism for nasty posts telling OP ‘fucking do this’ and ‘fucking do that’, whilst giving a free pass to the football going dad and the mum.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 11:32

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 10:22

More laughing emojis. I don't get it. What's funny on this thread about a suicidal teenage boy? Are you less concerned about that and more concerned with trying to one up another poster?

💯

Grim isn’t it? They’re trying to convince us they’re oh so kind and yet it’s obvious they don’t care about this teen, it’s all just a stick to beat a step-mum with.

Didimum · 14/04/2024 11:32

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 11:15

All really good points @Didimum, however, lets not forget that the OP isnt this childs parent! This is all brand new to her. It must be scary having a teen in the house actively wanting to commit suicide, I would be beside myself and I have teens. Though it is safe to say, no matter the answers there are too many posters that would still expect more from the OP. So it's pointless the OP answering. It still wouldnt be enough. This is why I get so defensive, it just blows me away, the general attitude towards stepmothers on here. By other women too which is bloody heartbreaking.

Again, this is a lot of conjecture. We don’t know if it is brand new to the OP, since it first began (which we know of) 3yrs ago.

It is not pointless in having the OP answer certain questions – namely the amount that her partner is sacrificing and his circumstances with work. Step mothering aside, partners should support each other with a myriad of life crises.

My father passed away last year (suddenly in his early 60s). My mother was in pieces, and still is in many ways, and my DH chose to support her by himself in many ways, and he does that to support me by proxy.

No one person gets to adjudicate on what is the absolute right in this scenario. You will have parents, non-parents and step parents falling on both sides of the coin.

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 11:27

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 11:19

Well played on the manipulation there. That's not why you posted 3 laughing emojis. I cannot be doing with the manipulation so I won't bother you again. We can agree to disagree.

An explanation of where my perspective comes from is not manipulation. But bye 👋

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 11:25

Iaskedyouthrice · 14/04/2024 10:34

Oh I spotted that, also noticed it went from how the OP needed time to relax and recharge but then went on to discuss her dp. Who's need to relax and recharge is obviously far greater than the OP's.
I think the OP needs to go and meet up with this friend she hasn't seen for a while because this is her life too and I can imagine she is struggling also. I think her dp needs to be working very hard to try to ensure the OP doesn't feel under any pressure. That is what a loving dp would do. That's what I would do. He can at the very least arrange carers leave for his one day in the office OR swap the day. He needs to make sure the OP gets that time with her friend though.
I am really struggling to understand why so many women on here expect more from stepmothers than the child's actual parents. I will never understand why. Even if its the 'bitter ex wives club' surely they have more self respect than to expect their exes new partner to do more parenting than them?

Edited for appalling spelling

Edited

You are taking this whole thread as an attack on SM. It’s not. There are people who wouldn’t sit with someone suicidal and people who would, no matter whether the person was family or a stranger. Neither side understands the other.

As one of the few posters to have been in this situation my posts have been about balancing family and need for time out.

You are conflating this with previous threads and carrying over prejudices about my opinion. Now please stop hijacking this thread to rant against me. This isn’t about me or you, it is about finding a way through this for the OP, DP and DS.

Tavimama · 14/04/2024 11:24

YABVVU - could you live with yourself if he were to go through with it? Aren't a few hours of your day a very small sacrifice to keep a child safe. Shameful reaction to this scenario in my opinion.

Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 14/04/2024 11:22

Sorry but yabu. I can't imagine the stress your partner is under and he's probably terrified about leaving the house to go to the office. Do it for him.