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To not want to give up my day off?

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justbecool25 · 13/04/2024 22:43

I suspect I might be BU

I've been with my partner for 7 years and he has a 16 yo DS, we have a good relationship. When he was 13 he first attempted suicide and he's been struggling mentally since with many other attempts. He seemed to be doing well for a while but he's been struggling again recently. CAHMS are involved but can't do much.

His mum told partner she can't cope with him struggling and so he's been living with us full time for around a month. He has told DP he feels abit better as he has his own space (he was sharing a room at his mums) and our house is a lot quieter but a few nights ago he asked DP to stay with him as he was having suicidal thoughts. And since then DP has been staying with him every night and not letting him out of his sight.

He works from home usually but once a month he needs to go into the office, this is Monday. Stepson is off school currently due to his mental health and school are putting more pressure on him about exams which isn't helping him mentally. Professionals agree.

I've got a day off on Monday and had planned to meet with a friend for a coffee then look around shops but DP has now asked me to stay home with stepson to keep an eye on him.

I know I'm probably BU but I don't want to give my day off up. AIBU? I do love and care for stepson, I'm aware this thread may not seem like it.

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 14/04/2024 15:50

This is not an emergency although it feels like one: this is DP and his son’s new normal.

DP is acting like a kind of emotional regulatory support animal for SS. There is nothing wrong with that but it is highly problematic to land OP with that role. She can’t make decisions for SS, she isn’t really in loco parentis. DP has made the decision to take SS’s suicidal ideation seriously but not literally—that is what not taking him to A and E means. Is DP and SS mother ok with OP deciding whether or not to take SS to a and e if she feels she can’t risk keeping him at home? Or does she have to argue and plead with SS and then go call the real parents for permission to hospitalize him?

This is a crazy level of responsibility without authority that the DP is putting on OP. What happens if the SS refuses help or self harms while with OP?

To me the issue isn’t only this day out or that day out. DP needs to think clearly about his role as chief caregiver and access OP as support for himself, not as support for SS. Because they will both burn out as SS’s caregiver.

Right now OP and DP are actually being sucked in to full time crisis care for the SS. OP is already sacrificing privacy, intimacy, calm, freedom for SS snd DP. This is a chronic situation which is draining for both OP And Dp. It is not sustainable to treat it as a “just this once” event. It is constant snd will lead to system collapse.

If this is an acute crisis the DP should call in sick and not go to work. Or tell work he needs to WFH. Or look for a day program for SS. Or hire a day nurse to come in and watch him.

This is to say that the DP needs a sustainable system in which OP is not stepping in for him. This will cause some friction and disappointment in the short run but long term it is better for all parties as it takes care/failure to care of op to ss off the table as a point of conflict.

Dartwarbler · 14/04/2024 15:49

adviceneeded1990 · 14/04/2024 14:20

So sorry you have had to go through that. Carers fatigue and poor MH among unpaid carers is so common and trying to access help just now is a non-starter.

In an ideal world this boy would be accessing good mental health services, in patient treatment if necessary, etc. Sadly your post shows how unlikely this is to happen.

I was one of the people who said I’d step in for anyone in this situation and you’re right, of course it would be easy to do so once or on a short term basis. The OP however hasn’t said that she’s been asked to care for him alone for a significant amount of time or become the solitary caregiver. I do believe it sounds as though Dad is doing his best. No one is really unreasonable in this situation - the mental health system that leaves carers in this unsustainable situation is at fault.

Yes, it is at fault

but I will pick you up again on “ The OP however hasn’t said that she’s been asked to care for him alone for a significant amount of time or become the solitary caregiver.”

The op IS already feeling the impact. It is already defining her life as it is defining her husbands. Her husband is sleeping apart form her, he is not sleeping properly, she’s already solely responsible for son on football days. This WILL be all too dominant in their lives. Going to work will be about the only place to get respite as it was with me. She’s already in this position 24/7. .

every second this teen is in her/dh care, this will be constantly on both their minds. It will determine what they can and can’t do even when together, it will put all their future plans on hold, stop them taking leave in “case” it’s needed, etc etc etc. sleep is about the only time it will not be lurking in your thoughts. It sucks the joy and spontaneity out of life.

all the while it was joint visiting, both mum and Op/dh DID get some respite. A chance to hand over responsisiblty and the worry for a short time. Dh has made a bad decision to take on sole care and effectively drag OP into this 24/7 so his ex can ditch her responsibilities to her still dependant son. He is 16, not an adult yet, and she has responsibilities. If she cannot cope she should be raising that with social services. Urgently.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:49

Glass113 · 14/04/2024 15:47

It's quite funny you think swearing is worse than your behaviour on this thread.

Fuckety fuck fuck.

No issues with swearing but your martyrdom is at odds with your potty mouth.

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 15:49

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:41

But you seem to have appointed yourself thread police.

I just think people who have walked in OP and her DP’s shoes deserve some compassion and respect for their opinions. The rest of us can learn from them.

You are somewhat making this thread about you.

Didimum · 14/04/2024 15:48

Hey @bellezarara, have you mentioned the football yet? What do you think about the football? Do you like football? Do you think other people like football? What do you think we should think about football?

Glass113 · 14/04/2024 15:47

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:45

Someone disagreeing with you is not attacking you. You are the one littering your posts with ‘fucking’ and ‘wtf’, have a word with yourself.

Edited

It's quite funny you think swearing is worse than your behaviour on this thread.

Fuckety fuck fuck.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:45

Glass113 · 14/04/2024 15:39

Don't waste your breath. This poster is actually attacking parents who's children have attempted suicide. Awful.

Someone disagreeing with you is not attacking you. You are the one littering your posts with ‘fucking’ and ‘wtf’, have a word with yourself.

Chatonette · 14/04/2024 15:41

justbecool25 · 14/04/2024 09:55

Haven't read all of the replies so apologies if I've missed anything.

DP has spoken to cahms and they haven't done anything. They won't prescribe antidepressants or section him as they have no beds. They have said to take him to A&E when he says he has suicidal thoughts, DP has in the past and nothing is done, it just creates more anxiety for SS so now DP refuses to.

He doesn't want to ask SS’s mum as he doesn't trust she can keep an eye on him as she has younger children to look after. We don't watch him 24/7 we (mostly DP) just check on him in his room regularly. I booked tomorrow as annual leave and planned to go out before I knew DP was due in the office (the day changes every month) otherwise I would be working.

DP goes to the football whenever his team is playing at home so it's around every 2 weeks.

Ah… I hadn’t understood that you’re on annual leave. That’s a tricky one—I think Mum needs to step in here, and it is a bit unreasonable of DP to expect you to use your annual leave to babysit his son whilst he’s at work. I’d be tempted to insist that DSS joined me on my outing if Dad and Mum can’t work something out.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:41

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 15:37

@bellezarara You’re not the thought police. You are jumping on everyone including people who have been in this exact situation with their children.

But you seem to have appointed yourself thread police.

Glass113 · 14/04/2024 15:39

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 15:37

@bellezarara You’re not the thought police. You are jumping on everyone including people who have been in this exact situation with their children.

Don't waste your breath. This poster is actually attacking parents who's children have attempted suicide. Awful.

anicecuppateaandayummyshortbreadbiscuit · 14/04/2024 15:37

He's 16. Take him with you. Fresh air and a change of scenery will do him good. Buy him a cake and a hot chocolate, he could probably use a good sugar boost to cheer him up. And it might make him feel a bit better to know that you like him enough to take him out and treat him. Seems like a win-win to me! ☕🍩🍦

StormingNorman · 14/04/2024 15:37

@bellezarara You’re not the thought police. You are jumping on everyone including people who have been in this exact situation with their children.

InSpainTheRain · 14/04/2024 15:36

I understand you don't want to give up your day off, but I cannot imagine choosing coffee with a friend in this situation myself. If a child is suicidal you feel (as a parent) beside yourself. I could cost you your whole relationship.

MsLuxLisbon · 14/04/2024 15:35

You're getting a lot of stick here but I feel for you. I would also worry that this was mission creep. It is a very sad situation and I think that your gut is possibly telling you to run. At the end of the day, this boy is not really your responsibility. This is on his parents. It isn't just about this one coffee, this could be the start of both your DP and his ex using you as the stopgap all the time. I'll be frank that this is why I would never date a man who had kids: I have no desire to have children and even less to look after someone else's. I really think that your partner should tell his ex that she needs to step in. Why should she get to step away from her responsibilities?

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:31

elliejjtiny · 14/04/2024 15:19

My son tried to kill himself aged 12. Hospital patched him up physically, camhs assessed him and then discharged him. There was zero help. He's nearly 16 now. Please look after your step son. A child's life is so much more important than coffee. I know it's annoying being restricted like that. I've been there.

Is a child’s life also more important than his dad’s football?

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:30

JimmyRiddles · 14/04/2024 15:07

My daughter has a history of mental health issues and a few years ago she was suicidal and had to spend some time in a mental health hospital for her own safety. I would not wish on my worst enemy having to hear your own child crying and saying, 'if you loved me you'd let me die.' Your partner must be going through hell and you want to go for coffee. Shame on you

Can a man really be going through hell when he swans off to football and leaves his son with OP? Shame on you for continuing the onslaught of guilt trips on to the OP.

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:29

Conniebygaslight · 14/04/2024 15:07

I’m a step-mum and when my DSS moved in with us permanently aged 16 after to-ing & fro-ing with his mum constantly kicking him out it was a major adjustment but I assumed responsibility for him. I certainly would cancel coffee just as I would cancel anything if any of my DC needed me and I have done many times.

Why did you assume responsibility of your DSS above his actual father?

TheABC · 14/04/2024 15:20

SS is 16, not six. Has anyone asked him what he wants?

If he can't go to school, could he accompany you - go to a movie or visit the library if he is up for it? You still get to see your friend and he gets out of the house for a few hours (I appreciate this might not be possible, depending on his mental health that day.)

elliejjtiny · 14/04/2024 15:19

My son tried to kill himself aged 12. Hospital patched him up physically, camhs assessed him and then discharged him. There was zero help. He's nearly 16 now. Please look after your step son. A child's life is so much more important than coffee. I know it's annoying being restricted like that. I've been there.

Didimum · 14/04/2024 15:17

bellezarara · 14/04/2024 15:01

I think you’re being somewhat disingenuous. You have said in OP’s shoes you would sacrifice your day off and that partners should support each other.

And as you haven’t said the DP should support OP by making other arrangements so OP can enjoy her day off with her friend, it’s reasonable to deduce that you think the DP needs a break but OP doesn’t.

You also said that the son’s acute MH issues started a few days ago, implying OP doesn’t have much to complain about.

Incorrect, I’m afraid. My sole issue in response to you is that insofar the football has no link to OP’s problem. I not saying it isn’t a problem, I am saying we do not know if it is a problem, because nowhere does OP either say or suggest it is.

You do seem to have a very significant issue with the football. It is unclear as to why, unless it’s due to your own conceptions.

What I would personally do is an opinion based solely on what information OP has provided. More information may chance that opinion, but OP has not provided it or suggested it.

Lynnestevens · 14/04/2024 15:12

Based on what you said you are being unreasonable. He is a very vulnerable teenager, is there a safety plan in place? If not id suggest that for a period the adults in his life should be on a rota to ensure he is not left alone (including his mother who needs to be more involved) this may mean that you need to give up some of your free time for a while.

Newname71 · 14/04/2024 15:11

JimmyRiddles · 14/04/2024 15:07

My daughter has a history of mental health issues and a few years ago she was suicidal and had to spend some time in a mental health hospital for her own safety. I would not wish on my worst enemy having to hear your own child crying and saying, 'if you loved me you'd let me die.' Your partner must be going through hell and you want to go for coffee. Shame on you

This is unfair. DP goes to football every Saturday leaving DS. DP hasn’t even asked the child’s mother to look after him. I’ve been in the position of listening to my child crying and saying he wishes he was dead. I would not under any circumstances put this on another person!!

JimmyRiddles · 14/04/2024 15:07

My daughter has a history of mental health issues and a few years ago she was suicidal and had to spend some time in a mental health hospital for her own safety. I would not wish on my worst enemy having to hear your own child crying and saying, 'if you loved me you'd let me die.' Your partner must be going through hell and you want to go for coffee. Shame on you

Conniebygaslight · 14/04/2024 15:07

I’m a step-mum and when my DSS moved in with us permanently aged 16 after to-ing & fro-ing with his mum constantly kicking him out it was a major adjustment but I assumed responsibility for him. I certainly would cancel coffee just as I would cancel anything if any of my DC needed me and I have done many times.

Harrysarseinthedogbowl · 14/04/2024 15:06

If the boy needs constant supervision, I think his parents should sort out between themselves who does it. Especially since they are the most likely candidates to have messed up his head in the first place.