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Aibu to ask who I complain to re badger set and old woodland being destroyed and all the bluebells being destroyed by Merlin... please who do I send photos too

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Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 19:15

Local to me we have an old woodland...it has an old badger set, bluebells...it's perfect..Merlin have destroyed it.....the council not interested...money talks .. please I need names to send photos to.. Midlands area..the locals have complained...I bet this be removed but quick I need names I can report too...

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hangingonfordearlife1 · 14/04/2024 16:15

if it's merlin i guarantee they have a massive team of lawyers who have all this dealt with have permission and licensing etc. It takes years of planning for this kind of build on merlin property so it's not something they would undertake without following proper legal routes

BMW6 · 14/04/2024 13:46

What a weird poster........... 😳

justasking111 · 14/04/2024 13:25

It's way too late now.

Testina · 14/04/2024 11:57

Thank you @Dontcallmescarface so - tinfoil hat territory, given all was declared and correct procedure followed 🤷🏻‍♀️

I want to see the tree poster!

VestibuleVirgin · 14/04/2024 11:10

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Dontcallmescarface · 14/04/2024 11:07

Testina · 14/04/2024 09:51

Which of these councillors works for Merlin?

This one.

Ward Councillor Bartlett: "As declared in my disclosable pecuniary interests I am an employee of Warwick Castle. For total transparency I am a member of their senior leadership team but given the sensitivities of this application I have excluded myself from any consultations or public engagements. Equally I have referred all ward resident enquiries to Cllr Ashford."

From the Warwick planning Committee Item #5

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Whoa!
Extreme overreaction much?

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LIZS · 14/04/2024 10:36

@Testina the councillor may not be on the planning committee, and therefore not been involved in decision.

BabyBoyBeautiful · 14/04/2024 10:05

Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 20:27

Back. Child I think is asleep...im not good at words... please I have photo evidence and there massive local group trying to fit it. Can I pm someone the photo of what's on the tree on the woods...I don't totally want to reveal where this is

What's with all of the secrecy and begging 'pleases'?
I'm fairly sure Merlin won't have secret agents tracking you down from a few mn posts!
Yes it's sad (although I don't have quite the love for badgers that you seem to) but assuming they already have planning permission and the set/bluebells have been destroyed what will frothing on here achieve?
Very odd post.

VestibuleVirgin · 14/04/2024 09:55

DBSFstupid · 14/04/2024 09:18

Bluebells may be 'bloody everywhere at the moment' but you have got this slightly wrong.

Those that you are seeing are 'SPANISH' Bluebells which are invasive and are a threat and destroying our native english bluebell.
Although quite pretty they have no scent, their colour is weak in shade and they spread very quickly out of the garden and into the surrounding area and cross breed with our delicate native ones which have a delicate scent, the most beautiful of blues in colour and are loved by our bees.

There is real concern that they are wiping out our native bluebell.

Planting spanish bluebells in your garden is now against the law and can carry a fine of up to 5,000 pounds. It is an offence to allow them to spread into the wild.

English Bluebells are indicative of ancient woodlands and its habitats and biodiversity.

It takes 5 - 7 years for our native bluebell seed to develop into a bulb.
(spanish ones spread very quickly)
It can take years for English Bluebells to recover from footfall damage.

Half the world's bluebells are found in the UK

It is an offence to pick,uproot or destroy our native Bluebells. Up to a 5,000 fine or imprisonment.

Well thank you Alan bloody Titchmarsh. I know about bluebelles, thank you

Testina · 14/04/2024 09:51

Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 19:31

Local councillor works for Merlin....... I'm Midlands ..work out which place I'm talking about... It's below the car park...they building a hotel... Locals have complained...the badger set is vvv old... Over 40-50 years

Which of these councillors works for Merlin?

Aibu to ask who I complain to re badger set and old woodland being destroyed and all the bluebells being destroyed by Merlin... please who do I send photos too
Sixgeese · 14/04/2024 09:34

I would think Natural England would be a good place to start. Many years ago, I had to call them about a bat roost in my house and building work. If I hadn't called them for permission and a survey prior to starting work I would have been liable for a big fine. I would assume it is the same for badgers.

Testina · 14/04/2024 09:34

https://www.bettsecology.co.uk/insight/badger-mitigation-when-setts-are-found-on-your-land

Clear information here on how you can still build when there are badger setts, including destroying them.

Ten seconds skimming that told me that to interfere with a sett they’d need a licence from Natural England - a contact that a PP already gave.

So speak to them.

And why wouldn’t you post the mysterious sign from the tree?
I wonder if it says, “subject a licence from Narural England this sett is being relocated”?

Badger mitigation: when setts are found on your land

https://www.bettsecology.co.uk/insight/badger-mitigation-when-setts-are-found-on-your-land

Thisisallabitshit · 14/04/2024 09:29

Is it this one? If so the planning application was submitted in 2022 and hotel due to open soon so it seems a bit late to complain?
https://www.warwickshireworld.com/news/people/plans-for-60-bed-hotel-at-warwick-castle-officially-submitted-3570944

Iamtheoneinten · 14/04/2024 09:26

Bluebells otoh, are not protected

They most certainly are. Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act.

I agree with PPs - if there is a group already protesting this then they need to look closely at the local councillor who works for Merlin. A conflict of interest may be problematic.

Notamum12345577 · 14/04/2024 09:26

Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 20:27

Back. Child I think is asleep...im not good at words... please I have photo evidence and there massive local group trying to fit it. Can I pm someone the photo of what's on the tree on the woods...I don't totally want to reveal where this is

Why the secrecy in your post? Is it Alton Towers or Warwick Castle?

Testina · 14/04/2024 09:25

Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 20:27

Back. Child I think is asleep...im not good at words... please I have photo evidence and there massive local group trying to fit it. Can I pm someone the photo of what's on the tree on the woods...I don't totally want to reveal where this is

So it sounds like the new hotel at Warwick Castle this summer.

Top tip: nobody is going to take you seriously if you contact them writing in this way like a tinfoil hat nut nut spouting about posts being removed.

You already mentioned that there is a large local group involved. Let the leader of that lead on this?

There were plenty of objections in 2022 but they were not accepted. You losing the opportunity (not right) to walk on someone else’s land is not a valid point. If you have evidence re the badger set, go to the police.

Bernardtheseal · 14/04/2024 09:20

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/report-suspected-illegal-tree-felling

Forestry Commission take reports of illegal felling of woodland. My understanding is that if there is an active badger set, any felling has to stop immediately even if they have planning permission in place and licenses to fell etc

Report suspected illegal tree felling

If you suspect anyone of illegal felling then you can check if permission exists and, if necessary, report the incident to the Forestry Commission.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/report-suspected-illegal-tree-felling

DBSFstupid · 14/04/2024 09:18

VestibuleVirgin · 14/04/2024 08:30

Why are you writing as if you are on the run, for god's sake? Full sentences are much easier (although less drama filled, granted).
And if the land is owned by Merlin, yet they have been allowing public access, why the fuss now.
Given yourlevel of investment in this issues, you will know nadgers and badger setts are legally protected. So either it is an abondoned sett, thus not an issue, or they are acting illegally in destroying it, so find out who to report this too.
Bluebells otoh, are not protected; they are bloody everywhere at the moment

Bluebells may be 'bloody everywhere at the moment' but you have got this slightly wrong.

Those that you are seeing are 'SPANISH' Bluebells which are invasive and are a threat and destroying our native english bluebell.
Although quite pretty they have no scent, their colour is weak in shade and they spread very quickly out of the garden and into the surrounding area and cross breed with our delicate native ones which have a delicate scent, the most beautiful of blues in colour and are loved by our bees.

There is real concern that they are wiping out our native bluebell.

Planting spanish bluebells in your garden is now against the law and can carry a fine of up to 5,000 pounds. It is an offence to allow them to spread into the wild.

English Bluebells are indicative of ancient woodlands and its habitats and biodiversity.

It takes 5 - 7 years for our native bluebell seed to develop into a bulb.
(spanish ones spread very quickly)
It can take years for English Bluebells to recover from footfall damage.

Half the world's bluebells are found in the UK

It is an offence to pick,uproot or destroy our native Bluebells. Up to a 5,000 fine or imprisonment.

NetZeroZealot · 14/04/2024 09:10

The PP is correct. If they have planning permission, all of this will have been taken into account and they are not doing anything illegal. They should be following a process.
There is a new law which requires all new developments to have a biodiversity net gain of at least 10%. So they will have to make this good elsewhere, plus 10% more.
OP, I understand you are upset about this, but it's probably too late to do anything about it now. The time to make a fuss was before planning permission was granted.

LIZS · 14/04/2024 08:37

You need to check the pp and look for an Environmental Impact statement. This should include a survey and pp will state conditions such as relocating badgers and maintaining biodiversity. If you feel that is not being adhere to contact enforcement office at the planning authority and any relevant consultees (also listed on the planning application on website and whose responses should be under Documents.

VestibuleVirgin · 14/04/2024 08:30

Londonrach1 · 13/04/2024 19:31

Local councillor works for Merlin....... I'm Midlands ..work out which place I'm talking about... It's below the car park...they building a hotel... Locals have complained...the badger set is vvv old... Over 40-50 years

Why are you writing as if you are on the run, for god's sake? Full sentences are much easier (although less drama filled, granted).
And if the land is owned by Merlin, yet they have been allowing public access, why the fuss now.
Given yourlevel of investment in this issues, you will know nadgers and badger setts are legally protected. So either it is an abondoned sett, thus not an issue, or they are acting illegally in destroying it, so find out who to report this too.
Bluebells otoh, are not protected; they are bloody everywhere at the moment

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