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My sister asked me this

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lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 15:41

My sister 1 has been on her own for years . Seemingly happily so but did have 2 difficult long term relationships. She has 2 grown up daughters both in loving stable and happy relationships.
Just been away on holiday with sister 1 and sister 2 ( sister 2 is married ) along with my husband and sister 2s husband .
I lost one my daughters to suicide 5 years ago . She was 19 .
Over wine ( plenty of it ) sister 1 was talking about how lucky we were to have loving partners and so are her daughters. I agreed but pointed out that she still has both her beautiful girls and how lucky she was too . She then said ' but you'd rather have what you have with your DH than have your daughter. Wouldn't you?'
AIBU to be dwelling on the fact that she asked me this ?It was in front of all of us (inc DH) . I replied that I would have my daughter back in a heartbeat.
DH went to bed shortly after this and next morning suggested I should not have made my comment in the first place .
Im not sure whether to talk to her about it .
There is a hit of a backstory about our relationship- I've always felt a bit bullied by her .
What are your thoughts?

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InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 13/04/2024 19:44

Hankunamatata · 13/04/2024 19:39

Sorry for your loss but I don't think there's much worse than a happily married person telling their upset single sibling how happy and fortunate they are. It's probably really hurt and your sister sniped back with something that would hurt you

"I don't think there's much worse..."

Oh come on, that's pretty bloody insensitive , considering.

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 13/04/2024 19:43

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:31

I think I messaged her hoping that it would offer her the opportunity to do the same . That backfired a bit . Bloody hell . I think I'm going to have to suck it up and move in

Your message was great, and it really gave her the opportunity to apologise for what she said.

She has chosen not to.

I would message again pointing out what she said.

If she doesn't accept it and apologise then I probably would be reconsidering being around her any more than the bare minimum.

If she doesn't even acknowledge what she said then it's going to eat away at you, and (only speaking from my experience) it will start affecting your relationship.

You've done the hard part by starting the conversation now, you should carry it on until you get what you need.

Hankunamatata · 13/04/2024 19:39

Sorry for your loss but I don't think there's much worse than a happily married person telling their upset single sibling how happy and fortunate they are. It's probably really hurt and your sister sniped back with something that would hurt you

mathanxiety · 13/04/2024 19:38

OP I agreed but pointed out that she still has both her beautiful girls and how lucky she was too . She then said ' but you'd rather have what you have with your DH than have your daughter. Wouldn't you?'

MILTOBE Is was sister 1 who brought up her daughter, not the OP:

"sister 1 was talking about how lucky we were to have loving partners and so are her daughters."

Sister 1 mentioned her own daughters and her other sisters, not the OP's late daughter.

It was the OP who commented that Sister 1 at least had both of her daughters still, the implication being that one loss or absence trumped the other.

5128gap · 13/04/2024 19:35

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 16:15

Possible that my response to her was unreasonable in the first place . I think the advice here is less wine and more respect for each other . Maybe my comment diminished what she was saying . Bloody hell !!

I disagree. Your sister is single. She may not want to be, but it is not one of lifes great tragedies, and while an acknowledgement of her feelings may be in order, she shouldn't be validated in thinking it is. OK, so the conversation wouldn't have happened had you not pointed out she was fortunate in her daughters, but its true, she is, and it would do her good to remember it. Frankly, I'm shocked at a woman who thinks it could be a mother's preference to have a partner rather than for their child not to have died. If it were my sister I'd be concerned that her desire for a relationship had become obsessive and caused her to lose all perspective, because what she said is not healthy.

Otherstories2002 · 13/04/2024 19:32

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:31

I think I messaged her hoping that it would offer her the opportunity to do the same . That backfired a bit . Bloody hell . I think I'm going to have to suck it up and move in

bit vague.

2024istheyearforme · 13/04/2024 19:31

who on earth would keep there partner rather than there child?? stupid question in itself and shows the type of woman she is then

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:31

I think I messaged her hoping that it would offer her the opportunity to do the same . That backfired a bit . Bloody hell . I think I'm going to have to suck it up and move in

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AmethystSparkles · 13/04/2024 19:30

There’s absolutely no excuse for saying what she did.

She started the conversation for going on about how lucky you are. I’m single and would love the security of a relationship….I feel anxious a lot of the time having to face everything alone. However, I would not dream of telling someone in your situation that they were lucky even if I was really drunk.

As if you’d that as your trump card. I really despair at how some people’s minds work.

Otherstories2002 · 13/04/2024 19:30

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 16:02

My husband meant that I shouldn't have brought my situation in to the conversation at all . She was getting v teary about her own situation and I am not sure if I was trying to show her how lucky she was or if I was just thinking about myself.

You were both very insensitive.

KarmenPQZ · 13/04/2024 19:29

mrsdineen2 · 13/04/2024 19:19

I've read this multiple times, including OP's updates, and I'm still at a complete loss as to what she's supposed to have said wrong. Sister was massively out of order.

Perhaps a more gracious reply would have been something along the lines of ‘we’ve all loved and lost in different way but aren’t we all lucky to have each other in this lovely holiday’

Unfortunately in the heat of the moment and especially after wine we don’t always have time to consider the best reply.

hugs to OP

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:28

Frazzledmummy123 · 13/04/2024 19:22

Your sister got offended and brought your daughter who has passed into it. It should be her apologising to you and worrying how you'll respond, not other way round!

Indeed.

It should be her apologising to you OP.

AssassinsEyebrow · 13/04/2024 19:27

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:26

She's replied to my message and thanked me for acknowledging that I devalued her feelings and that she knows I'm in pain . No mention of what she said . She may have forgotten because she had been drinking. Oh dear 😳

I think she knows exactly what she said.

Its her who is out of order not you

MILTOBE · 13/04/2024 19:27

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 13/04/2024 15:49

I'm very sorry for your loss, but I agree with your DH.

Your comment essentially turned the conversation into a "who is the luckiest/unluckiest" competition, and it was you that brought the (unspoken) topic of your daughter up. That was never going to end well, particularly with alcohol in the mix.

Her next question was obviously wholly inappropriate, but you chose to continue the conversation by answering it.

Edited

Is was sister 1 who brought up her daughter, not the OP:

sister 1 was talking about how lucky we were to have loving partners and so are her daughters.

OP, I am so sorry you lost your daughter. Flowers That must have been devastating for you and your husband and children.

Honestly, I would want to punch your sister. What a ridiculous and cruel thing to say.

I can see your husband was hurt but I think he should be angry with your sister, not with you. How could you say anything except that you wanted your daughter back?

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:27

TodayIsNotMyDay · 13/04/2024 18:33

I agree with you husband.
You really shouldn't have said what you said.
She was opening up, it’s fucking hard having to be single, even more so when on holiday with privlidged people who do have partners, and then you wouldn’t even have that moment of vulnerability and had to compare.
Did you at least apologize?

I'm staggered by this type of response.

How anyone can talk about how hard it is to be single to an op who lost a child to suicide is completely alien to me. It beggars belief.

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:26

She's replied to my message and thanked me for acknowledging that I devalued her feelings and that she knows I'm in pain . No mention of what she said . She may have forgotten because she had been drinking. Oh dear 😳

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Frazzledmummy123 · 13/04/2024 19:22

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:06

I've just sent a simple message to her now to say that I am sorry if I hijacked what she was trying to say and I'm hoping she takes that well . I am trying to avoid a confrontation but I'm sure it will just bubble away and cause more problems in the future if I don't accept my part in this Confused

Your sister got offended and brought your daughter who has passed into it. It should be her apologising to you and worrying how you'll respond, not other way round!

mrsdineen2 · 13/04/2024 19:19

I've read this multiple times, including OP's updates, and I'm still at a complete loss as to what she's supposed to have said wrong. Sister was massively out of order.

VJBR · 13/04/2024 19:14

TodayIsNotMyDay · 13/04/2024 18:33

I agree with you husband.
You really shouldn't have said what you said.
She was opening up, it’s fucking hard having to be single, even more so when on holiday with privlidged people who do have partners, and then you wouldn’t even have that moment of vulnerability and had to compare.
Did you at least apologize?

Are you for real? Why on earth should she apologise.

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:14

MonsieurSpade · 13/04/2024 15:55

Why shouldn’t OP talk about her dd?
Any mother would put their dd’s life above a relationship.
The sister is insensitive and tactless and frankly doesn’t know what she’s talking about!

This

I'm so sorry for your loss OP. My friend lost her 18 year old daughter to the same. Your sister cannot possibly understand how it feels like and imo her attitude is shocking. I would be so disappointed in her.

romdowa · 13/04/2024 19:10

Imo both your sister and your dh are unreasonable and completely out of line. Your sister is lucky to have both her children. If she's unhappy being single then she can change that , you unfortunate can't change the passing of your daughter and her question was disgusting. So sorry for your tragic loss.

YoureALizardHarry11 · 13/04/2024 19:07

Yes, you maybe shouldn’t have said what you said, but your sister’s reply was utterly weird. I mean, who thinks anyone would prefer anything over their own child? No, your child is more important than any other person. What a strange thing to say or think.

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:06

I've just sent a simple message to her now to say that I am sorry if I hijacked what she was trying to say and I'm hoping she takes that well . I am trying to avoid a confrontation but I'm sure it will just bubble away and cause more problems in the future if I don't accept my part in this Confused

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StormingNorman · 13/04/2024 19:05

1offnamechange · 13/04/2024 18:57

weird post.

there is literally nothing to support your assertation that the DH 'went to bed in a strop.'

And then the random schoolyard rhyme at the end, just odd and a bit inappropriate given the topic under discussion. Like ending a post with 'I know you are but what am I?' Confused

Edited

Bless your heart x

Sweetheart7 · 13/04/2024 19:03

Perhaps your sister didn't mean it BUT 5 years is pretty recent and your sister shouldn't of really said that in front of your DH... you did right to call her out OP. Agree with others too probably was the alcohol