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To think schools should take nits more seriously?

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Eurydice84 · 12/04/2024 16:44

Since January I have had to treat DD (and the rest of the family) for head lice several times. We follow all the recommended steps, wash bedding and clothing, and repeat the treatment after one week. The buggers seem to go away but then they're back again. It's likely that they're going around the school, and it only takes one kid to pass them on to the others. I am at my wits' end, it's impossible to coordinate 50 parents to treat at the same time, and the school doesn't allow absences for head lice. They don't seem to care at all, honestly. I have spent so much time and money trying to get rid of the problem, but there is no point if the school doesn't make it a priority as well. I also think head lice treatment should be subsidised, it's terribly expensive (£10 a bottle, and we need at least two for each treatment). AIBU?

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Ireolu · 15/04/2024 08:32

DC had nits end of autumn term. Only change was DC hair wasn't being braided that term. I let closest friends know and let school know via email. Then conditioned every 2 days and used the treatment twice. Everyone else in the house treated. Took 10 days in total. Hair now washed with tea tree shampoo and conditioner. Tied back and braided for school. I had no response from school office and parents were grateful for the heads up. I did what I thought was right and a lot of laundry those 10 days...

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/04/2024 08:09

rainbowtinsel · 14/04/2024 23:34

Well yes @CaptainMyCaptain it does seem to, apologies if my post was a bit garbled with auto correct. I understand perfect well how nits work thank you very much. What I don’t understand is what it is about school in particular, because in 3 years of daycare for both kids, no nits, not mentioned by any other parents, nothing on the nursery whats app groups, then bam you get to school and the fuckers are everywhere. And they play very much on the same way at day care!

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Well I can assure you the teachers hate them as much as you do.

Maybe the nursery staff are allowed to check for headlice and have the time to do it. Maybe you were just lucky.

rainbowtinsel · 14/04/2024 23:34

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/04/2024 19:50

Do you think the school gives them nits? If so I think I taught your child once - I was actually accused of that.

Children play and put their heads close together. The lice just walk across - they don't jump.

Well yes @CaptainMyCaptain it does seem to, apologies if my post was a bit garbled with auto correct. I understand perfect well how nits work thank you very much. What I don’t understand is what it is about school in particular, because in 3 years of daycare for both kids, no nits, not mentioned by any other parents, nothing on the nursery whats app groups, then bam you get to school and the fuckers are everywhere. And they play very much on the same way at day care!

ImVanillaBaby · 14/04/2024 22:19

Bits are just part of life!

Definitely not worthy of keeping kids off school

JenniferBooth · 14/04/2024 13:14

I'm surprised they get away with that. Even the NHS website says you don't need to keep a child off school with nits

I work with children as a nurse and we have some regular patients who always have nits at every admission, which we have to treat. Every time 🤔

JenniferBooth · 13/04/2024 16:58

DM is unable to wash but refuses to let others help her. Shes 88 and has osteoporosis My niece lives there and works in a school for SEN children and caught head lice off one of the kids. Apparently the child has had it for ages and the reason is the parents cant keep on top of it because he and his brothers and sisters keep passing it to each other. 🙄 Dreading DM catching it because she will just refuse to be touched. Cant wash properly but refuses help.

Zonder · 13/04/2024 14:48

howshouldibehave · 13/04/2024 13:48

Presumably you are aware that schools don’t have nurses like that any more and none of those things happen now?

And much earlier in the thread I posted some article saying that the presence of the nit nurses didn't have much impact anyway.

howshouldibehave · 13/04/2024 13:48

converseandjeans · 13/04/2024 11:05

Yes back in the 70s we had school nurses & they used to do regular checks for nits, give out multivitamin medicine, check teeth etc. I remember being shown how to wash hands too. There might be some children who have parents incapable of teaching them how to get rid of nits & maybe having that basic care in school is the only place they will get it. For some children school really is a safe space.

Presumably you are aware that schools don’t have nurses like that any more and none of those things happen now?

Workworkandmoreworknow · 13/04/2024 13:42

I used to do the treatment and then do the conditioner and nit comb every day for 7 days at which point we were usually clear. If we found anything in that 7 days, then we started again with the 7 days. I then kept a very fine mist spray bottle by the door with water and a few drops of tea tree oil.in it and we just spritzed on the way out every morning. With 3 children, only had 2 bouts of it in primary.

neverbeenskiing · 13/04/2024 13:36

converseandjeans · 13/04/2024 11:05

Yes back in the 70s we had school nurses & they used to do regular checks for nits, give out multivitamin medicine, check teeth etc. I remember being shown how to wash hands too. There might be some children who have parents incapable of teaching them how to get rid of nits & maybe having that basic care in school is the only place they will get it. For some children school really is a safe space.

Unfortunately, school nursing services like all other NHS services have been utterly decimated over the last decade. In many areas of the country they have also been privatised as NHS trusts could not compete with private providers promising to run them for pittance, and so those services are now run with far fewer, less qualified staff offering a fraction of the 'face to face' interventions they used to offer. In our locality it all takes place via text, phone or pre-recorded online workshops now and school nurses have no direct contact with children or families at all.

howshouldibehave · 13/04/2024 13:35

The pupils at my school whose parents don’t treat their nits are the ones that are perpetually flagged as having concerns with their attendance. If schools said they couldn’t come in when they had nits, their attendance would be dire and nits given as a perpetual excuse.

Strictlymad · 13/04/2024 13:25

Ime it tends to be one family who won’t do anything about the issue, who constantly re infect the rest of the class.

neverbeenskiing · 13/04/2024 13:17

Eurydice84 · 12/04/2024 16:47

Have nit nurses in schools again. Make kids with nits stay at home until the problem is fixed.

Unless you've been living under a rock presumably you've heard that schools are skint? Some are resorting to a 4 day week, vital building repairs are not happening and many schools are making TA's and admin staff redundant. Staff who are leaving are not being replaced. So who is going to pay for a Nurse to come into school regularly to de-louse children? There is no 'nit budget' that we can tap into, sadly.

As for not allowing children back in school until they're nit free, I'm afraid if we did that there would be a few children we never saw again, and those are the children who most need to be in school due to their vulnerability. That's leaving aside the fact that we can't simply exclude children for any reason that takes our fancy, there are quite strict rules around that sort of thing.

Believe me, school staff don't want to be catching nits and taking them home to our families. The responsibility lies with parents and we cannot force them to give a shit so your frustration, while understandable, is entirely mis-directed.

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/04/2024 13:06

Katemax82 · 13/04/2024 11:05

No chance of grandparents infecting my kids...

Presumably that's because you don't see them, don't have any or because they're bald then. My point stands.

Catopia · 13/04/2024 12:34

Another vote for tea tree shampoo. Original Source used to do a mint and tea tree shampoo and conditioner (not sure if they still do, think maybe is just shower gel now?), but nits used to hate that stuff. It was much more pleasant and cost effective to use on a regular/daily basis than treatments.

MargaretThursday · 13/04/2024 11:10

Katemax82 · 13/04/2024 11:02

It'll be the alcohol. My daughter had bad nits and I finally got rid by dousing g her hair and scalp in perfumers alcohol

@Katemax82
It is the alcohol. We used to say we made the nits drunk so they couldn't hold on!

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/04/2024 11:06

Some parents should take nits more seriously.
Schools have enough to do already.

converseandjeans · 13/04/2024 11:05

Yes back in the 70s we had school nurses & they used to do regular checks for nits, give out multivitamin medicine, check teeth etc. I remember being shown how to wash hands too. There might be some children who have parents incapable of teaching them how to get rid of nits & maybe having that basic care in school is the only place they will get it. For some children school really is a safe space.

Katemax82 · 13/04/2024 11:05

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/04/2024 19:32

Another point is that they whole family needs to be treated (with comb and conditioner method) - parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles if they are in close contact. Back in the days when we did have the termly visit from the nurse one told me it was often grandparents who were giving the headlice back to children who had been treated. It's a community problem.

No chance of grandparents infecting my kids...

Katemax82 · 13/04/2024 11:02

MargaretThursday · 13/04/2024 01:22

Much cheaper version is Listerin mouthwash.

Drench hair in mouthwash. Put all hair under shower cap for 15 minutes. Wash as normal.

Repeat every 2-3 days.

My dd had waist length thick hair and this worked brilliantly on her. The nits just floated off.

It'll be the alcohol. My daughter had bad nits and I finally got rid by dousing g her hair and scalp in perfumers alcohol

Katemax82 · 13/04/2024 11:00

The two times my daughter had them I contacted the parent of the child she had been spending all her time with to check them for nits as they had had head to head contact. Also the school can put it in their news letter about how nits are going round and can people please check their kids regularly. Also make sure if you have girls tie their hair up

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/04/2024 09:59

Sharptonguedwoman · 13/04/2024 08:49

Lice found? Child sent home. (Yes, I know they can't).

Sometimes the lice are obvious but you are not allowed to actually look for them any more. I was an Early Years teacher for over 30 years and avoided them by
a) not getting my head too close to any of the children - which can be hard when listening to them read
b) doing the hair conditioner and nit comb thing every single time I washed my hair just to be on the safe side.

Sharptonguedwoman · 13/04/2024 08:49

Lesterall · 12/04/2024 16:46

What do you think the school could do that would be effective?

Lice found? Child sent home. (Yes, I know they can't).

Jifmicroliquid · 13/04/2024 07:05

Why is everything the schools responsibility? They are there to educate children.
It’s up to the parents to treat their child for nits.

PotatoPudding · 13/04/2024 06:37

Eurydice84 · 12/04/2024 20:26

I went to school in Italy (including primary) and lived in Spain, France, and Germany for a while. Never had nits, no one I knew ever had nits. Now this is just circumstantial evidence, but I know for a fact that in Italy & Spain kids were not allowed to attend school with head lice.

One school or one person’s experience doesn’t represent a country. I went to school in the UK and never had nits. I don’t recall anyone in my school having them. Neither of my siblings have had them. My child and my niephlings have never had them either. I taught in several schools in China for six years; I didn’t hear of any outbreaks there either.