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Messy neighbours

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Butterfly212 · 12/04/2024 14:25

Hi need to rant….Where we live we have a shared entrance and stairway with neighbours then our entrance doors are opposite each other there is a small square of hallway between us. I have an issue that the neighbours clutter the hallway and stairs with all their crap . On the small square hallway they have one of those builders buckets filled with crap like dirty shoes umbrellas etc they also have a scooter, tent , more umbrellas, jump start kit which hardly leaves any room when we come out of the door .Then going up the stairs they have about 6 sets of dirty shoes covered in mud. To add insult they have added a thick folded up gymnastics matt at the bottom which slightly blocks you getting out the main door but it’s doable. Now ive had so many polite conversations leading to arguments with her about this told her its a fire hazard/ health and safety not to mention it looks so trampy it’s embarrassing when i have visitors it cant even be cleaned properly it makes me so angry its the entrance to my home. She won’t listen i don’t know what else to do.

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 10:22

Heyhoitsme · 17/04/2024 10:19

Definitely speak to the fire Brigade. They are sure to come out and inspect.

I did on Monday not heard back

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Heyhoitsme · 17/04/2024 10:19

Definitely speak to the fire Brigade. They are sure to come out and inspect.

Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:59

DisabledDemon · 16/04/2024 20:31

Are there cameras? If not, chuck some of items down the stairs, give a bloodcurdling scream and when she looks out to see what's happening, make sure that you're lying at the bottom of the stairs groaning loudly. Tell her you're going to sue.

Brilliant idea đŸ¤£

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:58

So I reported to the fire brigade on Monday they asked me to send photos which i did and haven't heard anything.

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:58

Ladybirdg1984 · 16/04/2024 23:01

"Trip over" said stuff. Demand compensation. You're welcome.

NB. I know its not that simple but in the event someone does trip over said items surely they'd be liable? Maybe take photos of the items on the stairs for proof?

Have lots of photos

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:57

PlipPlopChoo · 16/04/2024 23:08

Go a few weeks without saying anything then lob a random shoe or item in the bin. Give it a month or two and repeat until they get the hint.

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:57

LT1982 · 17/04/2024 05:27

If they have a garage there really is no excuse to leave car equipment in a shared hallway/entrance!

OK umbrellas outside at a push if they are wet but a gymnastics mat is taking the absolute you know what.

I assume there is either a letting agent or management company you can report this too as it probably breaches their lease terms

Edited

Exactly this . We don’t leave anything out there we might take muddy shoes off out there but bring them straight in we dont just leave them on the stairs we have a big airing cupboard as they will do and we use the garage so infuriating.

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Butterfly212 · 17/04/2024 08:55

grinandslothit · 16/04/2024 18:12

Is she a hoarder? I wonder if the inside of her place is also shit tip

Yes i think so. When ive knocked on the door before you can see crap and it smells like chip fat.

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LT1982 · 17/04/2024 05:27

Butterfly212 · 12/04/2024 14:35

Don’t tempt me its so frustrating they have a bloody garage they dont even use the stuff in the hallway can’t understand people

If they have a garage there really is no excuse to leave car equipment in a shared hallway/entrance!

OK umbrellas outside at a push if they are wet but a gymnastics mat is taking the absolute you know what.

I assume there is either a letting agent or management company you can report this too as it probably breaches their lease terms

PlipPlopChoo · 16/04/2024 23:08

Go a few weeks without saying anything then lob a random shoe or item in the bin. Give it a month or two and repeat until they get the hint.

Ladybirdg1984 · 16/04/2024 23:01

"Trip over" said stuff. Demand compensation. You're welcome.

NB. I know its not that simple but in the event someone does trip over said items surely they'd be liable? Maybe take photos of the items on the stairs for proof?

Spirallingdownwards · 16/04/2024 22:13

If her door opens inwards make a tower of all her crap propped against the door so it all topples inwards when she opens the door.

Or black bin bag it and put it out with the rubbish and deny all knowledge ad someone else said.

Ladyritacircumference · 16/04/2024 22:05

Say nothing further to the neighbour. Buy a packet of black rice. Sprinkle a little around the piles of stuff. They will think there is a rodent infestation and clean up. This method also motivates teenagers to tidy up their bedrooms.

DisabledDemon · 16/04/2024 20:31

Are there cameras? If not, chuck some of items down the stairs, give a bloodcurdling scream and when she looks out to see what's happening, make sure that you're lying at the bottom of the stairs groaning loudly. Tell her you're going to sue.

linsey2581 · 16/04/2024 18:15

you can contact the fire service and they will come out and do a fire safety check.

grinandslothit · 16/04/2024 18:12

Butterfly212 · 12/04/2024 15:51

I just don’t understand how she doesn’t think its an issue i cant get her to understand

Is she a hoarder? I wonder if the inside of her place is also shit tip

Navyontop · 16/04/2024 17:42

I’d start damaging the items that are restricting you. I’d kick large items out of my way, I’d put stinky old food inside the items obstructing (must have fell out of your compost bag), I’d hide smaller items…
When she knocks I’d say how terrible it was, maybe she should move them to a safer location?

HJ40 · 16/04/2024 16:31

Here for the updates!

Whatifthehokeycokey · 16/04/2024 16:29

Owning the flat makes no difference. She owns the flat as a leasehold, she doesn't own the building đŸ˜¬.

kitsuneghost · 16/04/2024 16:06

pile it all up in front of her entrance door
and repeat until she gets the message

OldMM · 16/04/2024 16:02

Report to the Fire Safety Officer in Fire Service.

Volpini · 16/04/2024 07:34

Butterfly212 · 12/04/2024 14:59

Amazing thank you

When it comes down to it, even though she owns her flat, her rights regarding the communal areas are not very much different to yours.
i know this as I once owned a leasehold flat in a large communal building with no managing company… it was a nightmare and I definitely lived with other people in that building who were scruffy scumbags so I hear you. It seems like there is a managing company in this situation so - as they probably charge a lot for doing bugger all - I would def be on them like a car bonnet.

Your landlord should also be doing something about this. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the leasehold agreement will state that leaseholders should not store items in the communal area. Take pictures and send them to him stating that it’s making the building unsafe/ fire hazard/ unsightly, also.

AnonoMisss · 15/04/2024 23:44

Butterfly212 · 12/04/2024 14:25

Hi need to rant….Where we live we have a shared entrance and stairway with neighbours then our entrance doors are opposite each other there is a small square of hallway between us. I have an issue that the neighbours clutter the hallway and stairs with all their crap . On the small square hallway they have one of those builders buckets filled with crap like dirty shoes umbrellas etc they also have a scooter, tent , more umbrellas, jump start kit which hardly leaves any room when we come out of the door .Then going up the stairs they have about 6 sets of dirty shoes covered in mud. To add insult they have added a thick folded up gymnastics matt at the bottom which slightly blocks you getting out the main door but it’s doable. Now ive had so many polite conversations leading to arguments with her about this told her its a fire hazard/ health and safety not to mention it looks so trampy it’s embarrassing when i have visitors it cant even be cleaned properly it makes me so angry its the entrance to my home. She won’t listen i don’t know what else to do.

Report it to your factor its a fire risk ours would letter then remove anything not cleared.

JoBoJoBo · 15/04/2024 22:54

Butterfly212 · 15/04/2024 19:28

1st floor opposite each other they take up practically that whole space .

You could put up a low expandable fence and divide the area between the flats.That way you get your own area.Also open the window when there is a storm and let the rain in on the crap lol.

Doone22 · 15/04/2024 20:03

There will either be a service company or a freeholder to whom you all pay maintenance or services or ground rent. It's their legal responsibility.

They definitely exist.
The landlord must know who bit is as well they're just being lazy.