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Would we get away with this at the hotel?

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HOTD7383 · 12/04/2024 14:02

We are going to Lapland UK in November, it’s 1-2 hours away and we’ve got a really early entry time so we are staying near there the night before - the Legoland hotel as it’s got more child friendly facilities (soft play, a pool, crazy golf, a sensory area) and my DD (8) struggles with a normal hotel with nothing to do.

DD has autism and needs a lot of help and support therefore there is 3 of us adults going as her carers. The family rooms have 4 beds in them, therefore enough sleeping space for everyone, however the rule limits it to 2 adults only per room (despite allowing 3 children per room so it’s not for lack of space). This would mean booking 2 rooms at nearly £150 each, and £300 just for one night is extortionate (all nearby hotels are similar priced due to taking advantage of people staying there for the same purpose as us).

Would we get away with just 2 adults checking in and then us letting the 3rd adult into the room a little while later? Surely people are walking in and out of the hotel and their rooms all of the time and they don’t check where every single one of them are going if they’ve already got their hotel card etc?

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Longma · 13/04/2024 12:36

IAmAnIdiot123 · 13/04/2024 11:53

It is a huge risk because if there is a fire and you are all trapped, the firefighters will check the booking and if it says 2 adults and 2 children, they won't help the extra adult and will leave them there as they haven't paid the full rate.

Do you really think that's how firefighters work?
Hotels have no idea who is actually in the hotel at any one time.

Having stayed in two hotels where we have had to evacuate for a fire alarm, in recent years, on neither occasion did the fire officers come and check names/people with each room.

The first one - no one (firefighter or hotel staff) came and checked at all, not when we were inside or whilst outside, nor when we went back to the rooms.

The second one - hotel staff knocked in the doors and shouted out to evacuate. They didn't come into the rooms or wait for an answer, when we were outside hotel staff didn't ask for names/room numbers. Neither did the fire officers. Several people were not in their rooms and turned up later whilst we were all outside. It was only when we were being moved to alternative accommodation overnight that hotel staff came and asked re hotel number and names. They also called some missing parties at that point to check they would know where to go if they came back to the hotel for the night - we couldn't return til later the next day.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 12:00

IAmAnIdiot123 · 13/04/2024 11:53

It is a huge risk because if there is a fire and you are all trapped, the firefighters will check the booking and if it says 2 adults and 2 children, they won't help the extra adult and will leave them there as they haven't paid the full rate.

😂

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/04/2024 11:58

IAmAnIdiot123 · 13/04/2024 11:53

It is a huge risk because if there is a fire and you are all trapped, the firefighters will check the booking and if it says 2 adults and 2 children, they won't help the extra adult and will leave them there as they haven't paid the full rate.

😂

IAmAnIdiot123 · 13/04/2024 11:53

It is a huge risk because if there is a fire and you are all trapped, the firefighters will check the booking and if it says 2 adults and 2 children, they won't help the extra adult and will leave them there as they haven't paid the full rate.

theduchessofspork · 13/04/2024 11:29

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:51

Responding to pp who said it was a victimless crime
But it is fraud, so yep. Crime

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It’s threads like these that make me wonder how many people here don’t get out much

theduchessofspork · 13/04/2024 11:25

Hecate01 · 12/04/2024 14:10

You won't have the bed made up or bedding in there plus the fire situation. Housekeeping always knows when people do this as well and it depends on what mood we are in if we tell or not.

She will if she asks for 2 adults and two kids

She’ll be gone by the time the room is being serviced

I would OP, it’s not making any difference to the hotel - you aren’t eating breakfast - and it carer support more than a jolly

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/04/2024 11:20

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?

Well, yes, lol.

crumblingschools · 13/04/2024 11:10

@PrattleTime if you would have to pay for an extra adult and you didn’t then surely it is against the law. Bit like going to an attraction/theme park and smuggling an extra person in without having to pay for them

YellowDots · 13/04/2024 11:10

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?

I am.

PrattleTime · 13/04/2024 11:07

Oh of course! If a crime is deemed victimless, then it's perfectly acceptable to break the law.
What a disgusting attitude

I have to admit that I'm not up to date with the laws of Lapland but I'd be surprised if having an adult overnight in a hotel room who wasn't on the booking is against the law.

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 10:46

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 09:15

I think they were probably concerned about it developing into a potentially large group of adults having a party.

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Three women getting ready to go out, without any drinks or music on? I doubt it could have been mistaken for the beginning of a party. They said it was because I'd arrived with a bag and they "knew" I was planning to sleep there.

QS90 · 13/04/2024 10:38

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:11

Oh of course! If a crime is deemed victimless, then it's perfectly acceptable to break the law.
What a disgusting attitude.

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Well.... yeah? Why would it not be...?

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:51

TargetPractice11 · 13/04/2024 09:43

@VestibuleVirgin

"Crime"?

Come on now.

Responding to pp who said it was a victimless crime
But it is fraud, so yep. Crime

IncognitoMam · 13/04/2024 09:44

Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 12/04/2024 14:12

I wouldn't think twice about this. Book two children and two adults.

That's what I would do

TargetPractice11 · 13/04/2024 09:43

@VestibuleVirgin

"Crime"?

Come on now.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 09:18

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?

Definitely. I’m pretty sure that most of humankind is the same in this respect.

SwingTheMonkey · 13/04/2024 09:15

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 09:08

The hotel thought it was the same - the room slept 4, it was a family room designed for 2 adults and 2 children. There were 3 adults in the room and the hotel were going to kick us out when they thought we were all staying there.

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I think they were probably concerned about it developing into a potentially large group of adults having a party.

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:11

catscalledbeanz · 12/04/2024 14:18

Just do it op. Literally a victimless "crime". And fire risk my eye! How many people book a room in a city with the hopes of pulling that night? It's standard practice on works dos for sleeze bags in city offices.

Oh of course! If a crime is deemed victimless, then it's perfectly acceptable to break the law.
What a disgusting attitude.

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 09:08

LittleBrenda · 13/04/2024 09:02

Not the same situation at all though.

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The hotel thought it was the same - the room slept 4, it was a family room designed for 2 adults and 2 children. There were 3 adults in the room and the hotel were going to kick us out when they thought we were all staying there.

LittleBrenda · 13/04/2024 09:02

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 08:51

Ethically I don't see an issue, but practically it could be an issue. I was asked to leave a hotel in similar circumstances.
I was staying in one hotel, my friends had a large multi bed room in another hotel nearby. I went over in the evening to get ready with them, a member of the hotel staff came and knocked the door and said we all had to leave as the room was only booked for X adults. We explained that we weren't all staying (we were very obviously doing hair and makeup to go out) and they were quite rude about it but basically said I had to leave by 9pm or we all had to leave and they'd cancel the booking altogether.

Not the same situation at all though.

NameChangedAgainn · 13/04/2024 08:51

Ethically I don't see an issue, but practically it could be an issue. I was asked to leave a hotel in similar circumstances.
I was staying in one hotel, my friends had a large multi bed room in another hotel nearby. I went over in the evening to get ready with them, a member of the hotel staff came and knocked the door and said we all had to leave as the room was only booked for X adults. We explained that we weren't all staying (we were very obviously doing hair and makeup to go out) and they were quite rude about it but basically said I had to leave by 9pm or we all had to leave and they'd cancel the booking altogether.

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 08:45

Georgesbar24 · 12/04/2024 14:05

This is mumsnet so everyone will be along to tell you how outrageously unethical this is shortly. But realistically Legoland costs a fortune for everything so I can see why you’re trying to save. I think you need to work out what your back up plan would be eg do you have means get to a cheaper hotel a little distance away if you were forced to book one?

So people are happy to bend or break rules when it suits their situation?
Great example to set children. But you can excuse it with the 'the pearl-clutchers on MN won't like it, but if you don't get caught it's ok..' excuse.
Which is all very well until somone else breaks a petty rule and it directly impacts those who usually break such rules. Then they hate the rule breakers.

PrattleTime · 13/04/2024 08:39

Magnastorm · 12/04/2024 19:17

You'll probably get away with it, just with 1 adult having an uncomfortable night.

I personally would never do it though, due to being an honest, decent person.

A quick peep back at your previous posts reveals otherwise. Lots of attacking and sniping at posters and rude to people. Lots of HTH posts when you can't possibly think it helps.

All of which is fine. Be who you are.

But to parade yourself as 'decent' is in fact dishonest in itself.

CagneyAndLazy · 13/04/2024 07:04

HOTD7383 · 12/04/2024 20:10

😂😂😂

The room fits 4 people so I’m paying for the room for the exact amount of people, so what are we stealing exactly? 😂 get a grip.

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It's the same as child fares on the train or bus.

There's still the same number of people taking the same number of seats, whether adults are using the correct tickets or child ones.

BarrelOfOtters · 13/04/2024 06:50

Goatinthegarden · 13/04/2024 03:06

They say ‘two adults and two children’ because that’s what they’re suggesting is within the limits of a comfortable stay for you and the people staying in adjacent rooms.

You won’t be able to complain and say, ‘the room felt too small and Granny has a crick in her neck from sleeping in a tiny bunk bed’ because they have told you, the beds are for your small children, not an adult.

They also need to put a limit on so they can control noise and damage. If they say ‘two adults and two children’ they can easily get rid of any guests that are a nuisance if they have ‘broken the rules’.

There probably is legislation for how many people a business can squeeze into a room for a night’s stay, but having stayed in hostels in my late teens, I doubt you’re anywhere near to exceeding that.

If you’re happy having three adults and a child in that space, come in quietly for the night, then leave the next day, no one will care a jot.

No they don’t…it’s all about maximum profit for the price point and type of visitors.