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Just don’t get this - waiting for the bus

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Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:32

My dad who is in his 70s had a hospital appointment this morning at 9:50am. So he had to pay for the outward journey as got bus about 8:55am. He goes on bus to that hospital as parking is a nightmare.

When he got to the bus stop 7-10 mins earlier, there were 3 elderly people - none of them were together. Bus pulled up and dad offered the 3 to board before him. “We are waiting for the first bus after 9:30am” - that’s when travel is free for pensioners. Dad gets his return trip free as it’s always after 9:30am when he leaves hospital.

Why on earth are people standing outside waiting for a bus at least 45 minutes before they can get free travel? The bus stop is in a wind tunnel. This happens every time my dad goes to hospital for that department as his appts are more/less same time.

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fiftiesmum · 12/04/2024 12:50

LlynTegid · 12/04/2024 11:43

Given how poor customer service is at main post offices (not sub-postmasters in my experience), I can understand wanting to be first in a queue, to save having to wait a long time once it opens.

Trying to get on before 9am for free (or 930 if that is the time limit) is attempting to steal in a way. 100% support for any bus driver who politely refuses.

The queue pre opening was massive and in the rain and cold. Had they been reading the fictitious daily fail articles that post office staff would steal your pension if you left it there till the afternoon

WickedSerious · 12/04/2024 12:46

fiftiesmum · 12/04/2024 11:40

Because some of them will try getting on at 9am in the hope of getting away with it.
Used to see people queuing at the post office at 8:30 for pensions and benefits.
Parents at the school gates at least half an hour early especially those who "need" to park so their darling snowflakes don't need to walk

My father used to be outside the post office by 6 o'clock every Monday morning;rain.shine or snowfall.

Drove my mother mad.

LlynTegid · 12/04/2024 12:45

EveryoneJapan · 12/04/2024 12:10

I worked at a well-know food retailer when I was student, and pensioners would be waiting outside from 30 minutes before we opened. Never really understood it, as there was plenty of stock.

If you have always shopped in the morning, how do you know that there are adequate stocks in the afternoon or early evening?

ASighMadeOfStone · 12/04/2024 12:37

It's not a new thing. I'm 58 and remember my Grandad (way before OAPs bus passes) would be at the bus stop at least 30 mins before a bus.
At university I lived in a house with a bus stop outside and to know if the bus was due, we looked out of the window. Queue of elderly people = bus due within next 30-45 minutes. No elderly people= bus not due for at least 45-60 minutes.

The older I get, the earlier I get up. Make the most of daytime. Nobody has been quoted on their deathbed as saying "I should have had that lie in". (I apply the same truth to floor mopping)

TabbyM · 12/04/2024 12:37

This definitely doesn't happen here anymore (Scotland) - concession pass holders either over 60s or people with health conditions can travel anytime which gives a bit more space at peak times with students and school kids as well as commuters.

Looneytune253 · 12/04/2024 12:32

If your dad takes his hosp letter he will get the free travel too

DreadPirateRobots · 12/04/2024 12:30

Catsmere · 12/04/2024 12:21

I just looked it up (Australian, never heard the term) and it seems to mean "Am I too early?" - doesn't seem to apply only to bus passengers.

Edited

Pensioners get free travel, but not until after morning rush hour is over (so they don't crowd out commuters who have no choice about their travel time). So they're "twirly" aka "too early" for their free travel.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/04/2024 12:28

AtomicBlondeRose · 12/04/2024 11:47

I never understood why elderly people got up so early - why not enjoy a luxury lie in? But since having small DC and working full time my body is trained to wake me before 7am. If you are used to getting up as soon as you wake, and you wake up early, 9.30 is halfway through the morning. Hanging around at home waiting to go out is excruciating to me; I’d much rather wait nearer where I need to be. And if there’s people to chat to and stuff to watch, so much the better.

You tend to sleep less as you age and sometimes need a nap by the afternoon.

PianPianPiano · 12/04/2024 12:26

PrincessFionaCharming · 12/04/2024 12:11

Lol why are they called twirlies? Are all OAPs twirlies or is it specific to the bus ones?

Either way I’ll be using this.

I think it comes from "too early"!

SevenSeasOfRhye · 12/04/2024 12:24

Because the first bus that's free for pensioners is always packed with pensioners, so they want to be early to be at the front of the queue (and secure a seat).

Plus, you need less sleep when you are older and this often means older people are up much earlier than people of working age, so they might be glad to get out in the fresh air.

Catsmere · 12/04/2024 12:21

PrincessFionaCharming · 12/04/2024 12:11

Lol why are they called twirlies? Are all OAPs twirlies or is it specific to the bus ones?

Either way I’ll be using this.

I just looked it up (Australian, never heard the term) and it seems to mean "Am I too early?" - doesn't seem to apply only to bus passengers.

AlltheFs · 12/04/2024 12:16

I'm sort of hoping I am like this when I’m old. Currently always late for everything - it would be amazing to be early.

Strongly suspect though that in my dotage I’ll still be the one tearing around the hospital car park trying to park 1 min after my appointment time….

I think some older people just need something to fill their day and give them
something to talk about.

Auburngal · 12/04/2024 12:14

EveryoneJapan · 12/04/2024 12:10

I worked at a well-know food retailer when I was student, and pensioners would be waiting outside from 30 minutes before we opened. Never really understood it, as there was plenty of stock.

We have this on Sundays and they buy a newspaper. Yet there are at least 4 shops within a 5 min walk of our work which can open earlier. A convivence shop, two newsagents and a petrol station.

Just buy the paper from one of these then bugger off home

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PrincessFionaCharming · 12/04/2024 12:11

Lol why are they called twirlies? Are all OAPs twirlies or is it specific to the bus ones?

Either way I’ll be using this.

EveryoneJapan · 12/04/2024 12:10

I worked at a well-know food retailer when I was student, and pensioners would be waiting outside from 30 minutes before we opened. Never really understood it, as there was plenty of stock.

catin8oots · 12/04/2024 12:09

I can't wait to be a twirlie. Ours all know each other and chat chat chat the whole way to town.

CutPiece · 12/04/2024 12:07

Xiaoxiong · 12/04/2024 11:56

We've just had an elderly relative staying with us and getting the bus to the hospital every morning. He was getting there at least 20 mins early every day (it's a 3 min walk to the stop) and waiting in the shelter even on days with the most foul weather. He just said he was nervous about missing it if it came early and preferred to read his book there for 20-30 mins rather than rush. Then he would "rush" to leave with enough time to spare to make sure he was at the bus stop 20 mins early!? I ended up having to just make myself a coffee and go off upstairs and not get involved!

It was an object lesson in how, when you don't have a lot going on, you can make a simple task that would take 5 mins last 35 mins.

This is my dad, who is 82. Not age-related in his case, though age seems to have exacerbated it. I suspect undiagnosed ASD, but, regardless, he’s always been fanatically routine-bound, and obsessive about getting everywhere inconveniently early. When we were children, we lived a ten-minute drive from the theatre. He insisted on leaving 3/4 of an hour early, in case he couldn’t find a parking place. We were often huddled in the rain outside places that hadn’t opened yet. He would absolutely be the person freezing to death at a bus stop forty minutes before the first available bus.

TayIor · 12/04/2024 12:06

I could never imagine even thinking twice about this, never mind posting on a forum.

Xiaoxiong · 12/04/2024 11:56

We've just had an elderly relative staying with us and getting the bus to the hospital every morning. He was getting there at least 20 mins early every day (it's a 3 min walk to the stop) and waiting in the shelter even on days with the most foul weather. He just said he was nervous about missing it if it came early and preferred to read his book there for 20-30 mins rather than rush. Then he would "rush" to leave with enough time to spare to make sure he was at the bus stop 20 mins early!? I ended up having to just make myself a coffee and go off upstairs and not get involved!

It was an object lesson in how, when you don't have a lot going on, you can make a simple task that would take 5 mins last 35 mins.

PianPianPiano · 12/04/2024 11:56

Caroparo52 · 12/04/2024 11:41

Live and let live

She's not trying to stop them? Just being curious about why they're choosing to wait at a cold windy bus stop regularly for over half an hour?

Ifailed · 12/04/2024 11:54

Why do people queue for a supermarket on Sundays?

Presumably so they get their shopping done asap and have the rest of the day to do other things?

Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:54

AtomicBlondeRose · 12/04/2024 11:47

I never understood why elderly people got up so early - why not enjoy a luxury lie in? But since having small DC and working full time my body is trained to wake me before 7am. If you are used to getting up as soon as you wake, and you wake up early, 9.30 is halfway through the morning. Hanging around at home waiting to go out is excruciating to me; I’d much rather wait nearer where I need to be. And if there’s people to chat to and stuff to watch, so much the better.

If these elderly people get up early, why can't they go shopping early? 90% of elderly customers who shop at my store walk or drive to shop. So they all come in at 10am-10:40am. They aren't helping themselves or us all coming in at once.

If you ever been to a service station at the same time as a few coaches turn up and see the queues for the loos - its like that!

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TheSnowyOwl · 12/04/2024 11:52

fiftiesmum · 12/04/2024 11:40

Because some of them will try getting on at 9am in the hope of getting away with it.
Used to see people queuing at the post office at 8:30 for pensions and benefits.
Parents at the school gates at least half an hour early especially those who "need" to park so their darling snowflakes don't need to walk

I get to school early for a child with sen who needs a car parked in a certain place for all school drops and pick ups. It’s fairly normal for autistic children to like routine and have set expectations. You don’t need to be ignorantly incorrect and judgemental about everyone and assume the child is a darling snowflake when the parent has enough additional stress going on and would much prefer an extra 30 minutes of sleep.

Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:49

Danikm151 · 12/04/2024 11:47

In Brum twirlies can pay £1 to get the bus before 9:30. Some still don’t do it

My dad when he goes for hospital appointments like today he had to pay £2.80 - no discount. As Feb last year I paid £2.60 for a single ticket as spent two nights away.

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Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:47

HarryUnicorn · 12/04/2024 11:38

Round here some of the drivers let them on early and just don’t register then getting on the bus, maybe waiting for one who’ll do that?

They don't do this round here.

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