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Just don’t get this - waiting for the bus

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Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:32

My dad who is in his 70s had a hospital appointment this morning at 9:50am. So he had to pay for the outward journey as got bus about 8:55am. He goes on bus to that hospital as parking is a nightmare.

When he got to the bus stop 7-10 mins earlier, there were 3 elderly people - none of them were together. Bus pulled up and dad offered the 3 to board before him. “We are waiting for the first bus after 9:30am” - that’s when travel is free for pensioners. Dad gets his return trip free as it’s always after 9:30am when he leaves hospital.

Why on earth are people standing outside waiting for a bus at least 45 minutes before they can get free travel? The bus stop is in a wind tunnel. This happens every time my dad goes to hospital for that department as his appts are more/less same time.

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Precipice · 17/04/2024 14:35

They're retired. They literally have time to burn. They have less time than you, assuming both you and the hypothetical pensioner have average expected lifespans.

Auburngal · 17/04/2024 14:29

valensiwalensi · 17/04/2024 13:55

I have loads of twirlies on my bus route! There’s a few brave ones who pretend they can’t hear the driver and make a dash to sit up the back while the driver goes bananas

It’s call selected hearing. Only hear positive things.

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Auburngal · 17/04/2024 14:28

Had one today. Got the bus at 10:20am. This woman was going on and on about why the bus is 5 mins late. Everyone was thinking STFU.

Well you have made the bus an extra 2-3 mins later.

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valensiwalensi · 17/04/2024 13:55

MyCosyDuck · 17/04/2024 12:59

Because they hope that bus drivers will take pity on them and let them on. They're called Twirlies where I live - tyhey'll flag down the bus anyway (this delatying id for those of us TRYING TO GET TO WORK -and ask "am I too early???".

Bus driver on my regular route takes no end of pleasure in telling them, unless youu're willing to pay, then you'll have to wait.

They're retired. They literally have time to burn. Let those os us working get to work, to pay our taxes, to fund their free bus travel, and stop delaying the buses for us trying to do so.

If I'm that entitled and ignorant when I'm older, I'll end myself.

I have loads of twirlies on my bus route! There’s a few brave ones who pretend they can’t hear the driver and make a dash to sit up the back while the driver goes bananas

Noyesnoyes · 17/04/2024 13:54

@MyCosyDuck that's an awful lot of rubbish you've put, in more ways than one!

MyCosyDuck · 17/04/2024 12:59

Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:32

My dad who is in his 70s had a hospital appointment this morning at 9:50am. So he had to pay for the outward journey as got bus about 8:55am. He goes on bus to that hospital as parking is a nightmare.

When he got to the bus stop 7-10 mins earlier, there were 3 elderly people - none of them were together. Bus pulled up and dad offered the 3 to board before him. “We are waiting for the first bus after 9:30am” - that’s when travel is free for pensioners. Dad gets his return trip free as it’s always after 9:30am when he leaves hospital.

Why on earth are people standing outside waiting for a bus at least 45 minutes before they can get free travel? The bus stop is in a wind tunnel. This happens every time my dad goes to hospital for that department as his appts are more/less same time.

Because they hope that bus drivers will take pity on them and let them on. They're called Twirlies where I live - tyhey'll flag down the bus anyway (this delatying id for those of us TRYING TO GET TO WORK -and ask "am I too early???".

Bus driver on my regular route takes no end of pleasure in telling them, unless youu're willing to pay, then you'll have to wait.

They're retired. They literally have time to burn. Let those os us working get to work, to pay our taxes, to fund their free bus travel, and stop delaying the buses for us trying to do so.

If I'm that entitled and ignorant when I'm older, I'll end myself.

quizzys · 17/04/2024 12:34

MrsClatterbuck · 17/04/2024 07:44

I live in NI and atm only get free travel here. When 65 I will get it free in the South. Then both dh and I can get the train to Dublin free. Though I do get a discount atm. £10 return. We also can travel free without time restrictions. How do you get it free on the Luas using the ticket machines. Would love to get the Luas out to Dundrum shopping centre sometime.
Will be great when the Enterprise will operate every hour.

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Hi there. I have a Smart Pass to use in NI. It seems to me that the Smart Pass you will get can be used on all forms of public transport in Ireland. I am not sure if you have to present the card to the reader on bus/Luas, but once you have it on you and have some form of ID with your name on it, all will be fine I'm sure.

The LUAS is free for you too obviously, and its website just says you must have the Smart Pass with you to prove entitlement to All Ireland free travel. Here is some info from the LUAS website which might help you.

Luas | FAQ's

If you are in doubt, I'm sure an email to LUAS customer services will reassure you. Same for the buses, although I'm not sure if you can "ping" the Smart Pass at the reader, or need to present it to the driver.

Enjoy your trips to the shopping megaliths. I think Dundrum is great, but very very very BIG. I prefer Liffey Valley myself, it's all on the flat and there aren't millions of escalators and maps to figure out! All the best my friend from NI.

Luas | FAQ's

https://luas.ie/faq/

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 17/04/2024 11:40

Ineedtoletoffsteam · 15/04/2024 17:59

Because they maybe look after grandchildren for free of course
Or they have a job
Or they volunteer somewhere
Or they have appointments

Or shopping, cleaning, DIY, gardening, cooking - you know, all the important things that important people like you have to do.

The whole point of the post is that these are the people who aren't doing any of those things.

You can pretend all you like but it happens a lot.

1offnamechange · 17/04/2024 09:23

TheSnowyOwl · 12/04/2024 11:52

I get to school early for a child with sen who needs a car parked in a certain place for all school drops and pick ups. It’s fairly normal for autistic children to like routine and have set expectations. You don’t need to be ignorantly incorrect and judgemental about everyone and assume the child is a darling snowflake when the parent has enough additional stress going on and would much prefer an extra 30 minutes of sleep.

Everyone thinks their exception is a "good" reason though. Both my current house and my old one are/were next to primary schools and there are loads of cars parked up all over the street the school is on and all the neighbouring ones up to an hour before. It's unlikely that ALL those children have autism and need a car in a specific place. I'm sure all the other early parkers have good reasons for doing it as well, but doesn't mean people living nearby can't find it annoying/odd.

Yes we knew the primary school was there when they bought the house but I thought that would mean twenty minutes of the street being busy c. 8.45-9.05 and 3.10-3.30. Not the street being almost inaccessible with cars parked either side of the road and parents blocking drives for up to three hours every day!

Tbh it doesn't hugely affect me as I wfh so can largely avoid those times but on the rare occasions I do need to drive past its an absolute nightmare!

GasPanic · 17/04/2024 09:23

Bit strange. Maybe they just want to wait and chat to each other.

Always a bit of a mystery though with pensioners. I know some who shop at the weekend and are always complaining how busy it is, even though they could shop in the week when it is empty.

I think the brain gets so used to doing things, we shop on a Friday for example, that the idea of changing it simply does not compute, and the possibility of shopping on any other day is not something the brain can comprehend.

CutPiece · 17/04/2024 09:13

neverendingcold · 17/04/2024 06:15

What's the issue here? If they want to hang around the bus stop why shouldn't they? Teenagers do it.

Teenagers do it because they want to smoke dope and shag one another, and because they don’t own/rent their own space. I don’t think it’s anything to do with a magnetic attraction to bus stops as such.

BogRollBOGOF · 17/04/2024 09:01

I'd never thought about the people congesting parked along the road by the school 30-40 mins before pick-up as being Twirlies before. The irony is that some of them are parked further away than the walk from the avaliable free car parks.

MrsClatterbuck · 17/04/2024 07:44

quizzys · 15/04/2024 13:58

Twirlies!!! What a great phrase - for all those who give themselves oodles of time to get anywhere, not just oldies like me!

I live in Ireland, and now qualify for free travel as a Senior. At last!

I can travel anywhere in the country on bus, rail, tram - anything that moves people around. My goldie pals and me go somewhere different every fortnight, (Not Shady Pines lol) and it's a great day out. I can travel free across the Border in Northern Ireland also and am discovering that beautiful part of the island bit by bit. Lovely friendly people. There are zero restrictions on my free travel entitlement.

I am not organised though, and would be legging it to the bus at the last minute I'm afraid! Am I a TLATY then or a JUSTINTIMEY? ha ha.

I live in NI and atm only get free travel here. When 65 I will get it free in the South. Then both dh and I can get the train to Dublin free. Though I do get a discount atm. £10 return. We also can travel free without time restrictions. How do you get it free on the Luas using the ticket machines. Would love to get the Luas out to Dundrum shopping centre sometime.
Will be great when the Enterprise will operate every hour.

Thriving30 · 17/04/2024 06:57

The same people who queue outside supermarket doors with their trolleys half an hour before the store opens.

neverendingcold · 17/04/2024 06:15

What's the issue here? If they want to hang around the bus stop why shouldn't they? Teenagers do it.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 17/04/2024 06:13

Greyat · 16/04/2024 09:22

I thought all bus fares were currently capped at £2.

I don't see why it matters to you if they want to have a leisurely stroll to the bus stop, know they'll be there in good time for their bus and have a chat while they wait. Exactly what retirement should be IMO. Time to just be.

It might be only in England that singles are capped at £2, unless the Scottish and Welsh parliaments have done the same thing?

LightSpeeds · 17/04/2024 06:01

You sound like you have a big attitude problem about the elderly, in general.

What's it got to do with you how anyone else chooses to live their life or how they spend their time?!

I hope you have a warmer attitude to your own father - because you sound horrible.

Noyesnoyes · 17/04/2024 05:44

@Auburngal why don't MYOB and stop being ageist on all your threads?

You're really very obsessed with "elderly" people.

fiftiesmum · 16/04/2024 10:09

burnttoad · 16/04/2024 09:17

I have parking anxiety. I will literally not go places if parking is not guaranteed. It is a genuine fear inducing anxiety for me. I always get places crazy early as it's how I manage my stress.

Perhaps others have similar issues. Don't judge.

Yes I have parking issues as well to the point of preferring public transport - but i don't feel I am entitled to park by the gate.
I live opposite a primary school - there are zero parking restrictions in the area apart from a stretch for a few metres each side of school gate most families live within a short walk but there are parents there from 2:30 with some parking on the zigzag lines.

Greyat · 16/04/2024 09:22

Auburngal · 12/04/2024 11:49

My dad when he goes for hospital appointments like today he had to pay £2.80 - no discount. As Feb last year I paid £2.60 for a single ticket as spent two nights away.

I thought all bus fares were currently capped at £2.

I don't see why it matters to you if they want to have a leisurely stroll to the bus stop, know they'll be there in good time for their bus and have a chat while they wait. Exactly what retirement should be IMO. Time to just be.

burnttoad · 16/04/2024 09:17

fiftiesmum · 12/04/2024 11:40

Because some of them will try getting on at 9am in the hope of getting away with it.
Used to see people queuing at the post office at 8:30 for pensions and benefits.
Parents at the school gates at least half an hour early especially those who "need" to park so their darling snowflakes don't need to walk

I have parking anxiety. I will literally not go places if parking is not guaranteed. It is a genuine fear inducing anxiety for me. I always get places crazy early as it's how I manage my stress.

Perhaps others have similar issues. Don't judge.

nonumbersinthisname · 15/04/2024 21:19

Auburngal · 15/04/2024 20:13

I have been on touring holidays abroad. We are given an allocated seat on the coach. There was no need to wait outside for 20 mins and when you need to meet up to go back to hotel, another place.

I don’t know whether it was pathological earliness or fear of being left behind. Which they wouldn’t - I’ve also been on a holiday where someone hadn't adjusted their watch for the time difference and they went awol during a stop off. After waiting for 30 minutes the tour guide sent the coach to the hotel and stayed behind to find and escort the very sheepish holidaymaker back.

which was amusing in itself because we all gathered at the appointed time in reception for the evening meal but everyone was wringing their hands about whether we could go into the dining room. So I rolled my eyes and went up to reception, and they spoke enough English for me to explain the guide wasn’t there and please could they show us our tables in the dining room. I became the stand in tour guide as everyone, including hotel staff, defaulted to me, eg telling them who the vegetarians were etc. they all thought I was marvellous and brave, I thought they were all a bit wet. Grin

Auburngal · 15/04/2024 20:13

nonumbersinthisname · 15/04/2024 14:19

I’ve been on several coach holidays, and on every single one there would be a queue at the coach each morning well before the driver even got there and unlocked the bus!

i remember one holiday my friend and I looking out of our window twenty minutes ahead of time and watching them - we had time for another cuppa and a wee. Every morning we would get on the bus about two or three minutes before the requested time (on the bus at time X for a briefing and a scheduled depart at X+10) and all the Twirlies would be tapping their watches at us. We were perfectly timed and never late but we still had the reputation of holding them up. They’d waste half the time at each stop off on the itinerary queuing at the bus rather than exploring. We were on holiday, so it amused rather than annoyed us, but it was a bit wearing by the end.

I have been on touring holidays abroad. We are given an allocated seat on the coach. There was no need to wait outside for 20 mins and when you need to meet up to go back to hotel, another place.

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SmudgeButt · 15/04/2024 18:31

What if the bus comes early? What if you're there by yourself and don't see the bus coming and it whizzes past? What if something happens and you're not there to complain about it??

I don't know - I'm known to be always late so expect I'll never hit this stage.

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 15/04/2024 18:23

Aparecium · 12/04/2024 11:40

My MIL is a twirlie. It began when she had knee pain and needed a lift to the bus stop, because that was when FIL could give her a lift, but continued even after she could walk to the stop because she looked forward to the chat with the twirlie regulars.

Never heard anyone else use twirlie this way - is it a Yorkshire thing?

Yes it's a Yorkshire thing! It's all the old dears who congregate at the bus stop going "are we too early (twirly)!!!

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