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Joe Wicks says junk food causes ADHD

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RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 09:25

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

I politely disagree with Joe. I have a very health conscious friend who cooks from scratch, plenty of vegetables and a Mediterranean diet as recommended by all healthcare professionals and has two children. One has ADHD and one doesn’t.

Has Joe jumped the shark on this one?

Joe Wicks blames ultra-processed junk for explosion of kids with ADHD

The nation's favourite work-out guru, nicknamed the Body Coach warned 'every child' now appears to have an ADHD diagnosis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

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BananaforScale · 12/04/2024 17:09

Joe Wicks is as thick as mince but up to this point at least had the common sense not to wade into subjects he knows fuck all about.

SweetFemaleAttitude · 12/04/2024 17:08

Joe is hard of thinking. Very smug, but can't read a room.

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/04/2024 17:06

Funkyslippers · 12/04/2024 14:14

He doesn't need qualifications to say what he said, ie it seems as if every child has a diagnosis (I admit, an exaggeration) or that there may be some link between processed/junk food and behavioural issues, which I strongly agree with. I don't need to have qualifications to say that either. He's definitely not talking bollocks. It's about time parents took responsibility for their children's diets

He is absolutely unqualified to speculate about ADHD.

Its not a behavioural disorder, it's neurodevelopmental. That's a pretty basic distinction to get wrong.

Parents of ND children take more responsibility in any event - because they have no other choice.

ASighMadeOfStone · 12/04/2024 17:06

JadeSeahorse · 12/04/2024 16:09

I wouldn’t pay attention to anything this guy said.

During covid he made out he was being so altruistic with his keep fit videos when it was just a means to earn a ton of money. No issue with him earning the money if he is honest about his motives but he always makes out it is to help the general public as if he is doing it for free.🙄

He makes my skin crawl.🤮

And all the newspaper articles about how he made 7 million during Covid but once we weren't locked down anymore his profits slipped to 3 or something tragic.

In fairness, his advertising revenue from the lockdown videos went to charity, but by god he made sure we knew about it. The 7 million profit came from his other gigs.

@Everanewbie as others have said, he said, clearly and loudly, that "every child has a diagnosis these days" Just imagine if that were anyone other than Saint Joe. "they're all adhd these days, didn't exist in my day, it's because you all feed them shit because you don't know any better" THAT'S what he said. That's what he inferred. And the fact that ADHDUK has had to issue a statement about it shows that actual experts not only understood what he was saying, but know it was untrue.

And it's not just the Mail where the story has appeared. It's a very lazy trope to simply "ah, well, you will read the Mail"

PeaceOnThePorch · 12/04/2024 16:59

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:49

He was being interviewed verbally and used a figure of speech. "Every child" in this context means "a higher proportion". I'm virtually certain he isn't being literal. He merely points out that bad diets exacerbate behavioural problems which I really don't see as controversial. What I see here is an OP that says "JW says bad diet causes ADHD" and a tonne of posters just wade in with their insults and fail to a) investigate what he actually said, and b) make a reasoned argument for what they agree/disagree about what he said.

Again, by saying ‘every child’, he was being goady. And he said ADHD diagnosis can be stemmed back to diet, which isn’t true.

He isn’t qualified to speak on this issue and has made himself look ill informed and silly, but maybe he feels that’s worth it for the attention it brings him.

Keychangeoff · 12/04/2024 16:59

Funkyslippers · 12/04/2024 14:14

He doesn't need qualifications to say what he said, ie it seems as if every child has a diagnosis (I admit, an exaggeration) or that there may be some link between processed/junk food and behavioural issues, which I strongly agree with. I don't need to have qualifications to say that either. He's definitely not talking bollocks. It's about time parents took responsibility for their children's diets

You don’t need qualifications to say anything. It doesn’t make what you say any less ridiculous though. Many stupid people say a lot of stupid things. No qualifications needed.

DanielGault · 12/04/2024 16:58

Jessieshome · 12/04/2024 16:46

What on earth does 'jump the shark mean'?

Never knew there was so much hatred for Joe Wicks!

But also, I would never read the Daily Mail or trust anything it prints!

Taking the piss in American speak 😉

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:52

Jessieshome · 12/04/2024 16:46

What on earth does 'jump the shark mean'?

Never knew there was so much hatred for Joe Wicks!

But also, I would never read the Daily Mail or trust anything it prints!

Its a reference to the TV series Happy Days. After several seasons, they really ran out of ideas, and a character called The Fonze did a jump on a jetski, over a shark.

The phrase has come to mean that someone has run out of ideas and has come out with something completely bizarre in order to stay relevant and get attention.

Damnyourheadshoulderskneesandtoes · 12/04/2024 16:50

Oh how interesting, I'd also like to know Joes thoughts on vaccines, said no one ever.

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:49

He was being interviewed verbally and used a figure of speech. "Every child" in this context means "a higher proportion". I'm virtually certain he isn't being literal. He merely points out that bad diets exacerbate behavioural problems which I really don't see as controversial. What I see here is an OP that says "JW says bad diet causes ADHD" and a tonne of posters just wade in with their insults and fail to a) investigate what he actually said, and b) make a reasoned argument for what they agree/disagree about what he said.

Keychangeoff · 12/04/2024 16:47

Aah bless. Is Joe using his years as a doctor to make these claims or his over inflated sense of ego and confidence ?

Jessieshome · 12/04/2024 16:46

What on earth does 'jump the shark mean'?

Never knew there was so much hatred for Joe Wicks!

But also, I would never read the Daily Mail or trust anything it prints!

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 16:42

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:33

I accept that, but what I don't accept is that people on here have deliberately misrepresented what he said, insulted him, insulted his family and not at all engaged in what he has said.

I just read it he said 'every child's has a diagnosis. That's clearly untrue. Most of my DD's friends do not have diagnoses. He talks about sugar causing his behavioural issues - yes, could be true. But ADHD is a developmental disorder it's not a 'behaviour issue'. So it seems at best muddled at worst rubbish what he has said.

Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 12/04/2024 16:42

Food makes a massive difference to my ADHD daughter, but she has ADHD whether she eats a rainbow of healthy fresh veg or snorts a line of rainbow drops.

E133 blue is the one that really makes her doolally. She is 7 and refuses to eat it because she doesn't like the way it makes her feel.

Diet, sport, exercise and mindfulness have been the best help for her so far. We've not tried meds yet.

DanielGault · 12/04/2024 16:38

Samcro · 12/04/2024 09:28

he is a dip stick

You're being far too polite 😂 he should, as they say, 'stay in his lane'.

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 16:37

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/04/2024 16:08

Technically, when he was awarded his honorary doctorate from the university where he originally gained a batchelor's in Sports Science, which would include units on nutrition and research skills/methodology/etc.

Can't imagine that the chaotic household he grew up (heroin addict father and mother with mental illness that require hospitalisation) and attending a non-grammar school (in an area with very strong grammars and independent choices) which would have significantly greater numbers of children with poorer behaviour, SEND and lower academic ability was the best start to life, either. But he got the GCSEs, the post 16 qualifications and the degree, nonetheless.

For all the snotty putdowns, he's not unqualified, has achieved significantly even before you take into account things like raising 2 million quid for charity in one go and has the right to an opinion about health, behaviour and fitness as it is his job and has been since he (quite sensibly) decided that a career as a PE teacher wasn't what he wanted - working as a TA tends to do that to people.

But what's that got to do with neurodiversity? I'm not sure a degree in Sports science covers developmental disorders?

FloofCloud · 12/04/2024 16:35

PrincessFionaCharming · 12/04/2024 16:02

Lots of defensive people on this thread 👀

Because when people who know nothing of any scientific research start throwing dumbass comments around, should firstly know their place, junk food = unhealthy diet, excess fat .... but have zero knowledge about very complex issues in the medical research field.
People are intolerant of kids enough as it is who have ND issues and we need to takes steps forwards, not open their stupid diatribe - causation doesn't equate to correlation

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:33

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/04/2024 16:30

I think that's unfair.

The nature of some neurodevelopmental disorders means that often children will simply refuse to eat a wider range of tastes and textures and can have a very restricted diet.

When dd was younger she would projectile vomit when encouraged to eat fruit for example. Fights about food can cause meltdowns in nd children to the extent that they develop eating disorders and/or self harm.

Sometimes any calories are better than none. Unless people are raising children with additional they don't understand the issues involved.

I accept that, but what I don't accept is that people on here have deliberately misrepresented what he said, insulted him, insulted his family and not at all engaged in what he has said.

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/04/2024 16:30

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 15:52

My suspicion is that these very tame comments from JW touch a nerve with parents who feed their children junk food and really don't like the thought that this may unduly affect their behaviour and exacerbate (not cause) ADHD symptoms. They lash out at the person pointing out an uncomfortable truth rather than having an introspective moment to see if low hanging fruit may have a positive impact.

I think that's unfair.

The nature of some neurodevelopmental disorders means that often children will simply refuse to eat a wider range of tastes and textures and can have a very restricted diet.

When dd was younger she would projectile vomit when encouraged to eat fruit for example. Fights about food can cause meltdowns in nd children to the extent that they develop eating disorders and/or self harm.

Sometimes any calories are better than none. Unless people are raising children with additional they don't understand the issues involved.

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 16:21

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 16:13

Oh yes, neuro diversity is caused by junk food. Presumably that our mother's ate while we were in the womb.

Funnily enough my BF has ADHD as do her 2 DC. She is the healthiest eater I know. To the extent her DC are too embarrassed to eat their packed lunch at school!!!

Christ, that's not what JW said.

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 16:13

Oh yes, neuro diversity is caused by junk food. Presumably that our mother's ate while we were in the womb.

Funnily enough my BF has ADHD as do her 2 DC. She is the healthiest eater I know. To the extent her DC are too embarrassed to eat their packed lunch at school!!!

JadeSeahorse · 12/04/2024 16:09

I wouldn’t pay attention to anything this guy said.

During covid he made out he was being so altruistic with his keep fit videos when it was just a means to earn a ton of money. No issue with him earning the money if he is honest about his motives but he always makes out it is to help the general public as if he is doing it for free.🙄

He makes my skin crawl.🤮

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/04/2024 16:08

Iamacatslave · 12/04/2024 09:33

When did Joe Wicks become Dr Joe Wicks?

Technically, when he was awarded his honorary doctorate from the university where he originally gained a batchelor's in Sports Science, which would include units on nutrition and research skills/methodology/etc.

Can't imagine that the chaotic household he grew up (heroin addict father and mother with mental illness that require hospitalisation) and attending a non-grammar school (in an area with very strong grammars and independent choices) which would have significantly greater numbers of children with poorer behaviour, SEND and lower academic ability was the best start to life, either. But he got the GCSEs, the post 16 qualifications and the degree, nonetheless.

For all the snotty putdowns, he's not unqualified, has achieved significantly even before you take into account things like raising 2 million quid for charity in one go and has the right to an opinion about health, behaviour and fitness as it is his job and has been since he (quite sensibly) decided that a career as a PE teacher wasn't what he wanted - working as a TA tends to do that to people.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 12/04/2024 16:08

Oh, I thought it was standing under electricity pylons that caused it. Or was that frizzy hair?

Funkyslippers · 12/04/2024 16:03

ASighMadeOfStone · 12/04/2024 15:55

Or maybe some of us have been aware of him and his will do anything to stay in the limelight for some years now.

Always a whiff of not so quiet desperation about him. Changes area of expertise every time he slips off the radar, makes ridiculous generalisations, etc.

But, tbf, it's his attitude to women and their bodies that's particularly repulsive.

Can you link to any sources re his attitude to women etc? I actually haven't seen much of him in the limelight for ages so he can't be that desperate. I think he's done an awful lot of good towards attitudes to exercise, balanced diets, mental health etc