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Joe Wicks says junk food causes ADHD

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RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 09:25

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

I politely disagree with Joe. I have a very health conscious friend who cooks from scratch, plenty of vegetables and a Mediterranean diet as recommended by all healthcare professionals and has two children. One has ADHD and one doesn’t.

Has Joe jumped the shark on this one?

Joe Wicks blames ultra-processed junk for explosion of kids with ADHD

The nation's favourite work-out guru, nicknamed the Body Coach warned 'every child' now appears to have an ADHD diagnosis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/04/2024 23:19

Ooooooh this sort of thing gives me the rage!

We hardly eat any particularly processed food at all. DS has ADHD.

Yes you have to be careful with what children who have ADHD eat, as protein helps them to regulate, Omega 3 taken regularly has been proven to help their concentration, and too much sugar is problematic for them. But it doesn’t cause the actual condition.

Tessisme · 20/04/2024 23:16

Christ Almighty @Nelfif I really hope you're lying about working in mental health🤣🤣

Whytoodee · 20/04/2024 22:38

I think ultra processed food and sweeteners can make symptoms worse in some people ... And these are found in healthy and unhealthy foods. It's not about good or bad diets it's about what companies put in the food. Many healthy kids things have harmful sweeteners in them... "Sugar free" squash, juice, yogurts etc. The sugar tax backfired. Now there's sweeteners in everything and some people think they can have more because it's "healthy". These ultra processed ingredients can contribute to the symptoms of many physical and mental conditions so it's not blaming anyone to say in some they can affect (not cause!) adhd

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2024horizons · 15/04/2024 22:05

There are factors in our systems that can help ADHD symptoms. Diagnosis and medication is part of what helps, but there are other parts too - diet, sleep, behaviour, environment, all help or hinder symptoms.

DanielGault · 15/04/2024 17:10

RiffRaffBananas · 15/04/2024 17:05

Cook book? You don’t say!

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RiffRaffBananas · 15/04/2024 17:05

Cook book? You don’t say!

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Conkersinautumn · 15/04/2024 14:04

Oh look he says this and just happens to have a cookbook coming out. Complete snake oil salesman seedy.

Isitautumnyet23 · 13/04/2024 23:26

As others have said, he’s an influencer with no medical qualifications or experience at all. Hopefully he realises how ridiculous he’s been with his opinion.

I dont think anyone can take issue with him generally promoting a good diet and exercise for everyone (stick to what you actually know Joe).

Mirabai · 13/04/2024 23:23

Sugar makes my ADHD worse as does screen time. Big time.

Tessisme · 13/04/2024 22:52

I’m definitely open to ND being caused or inflated by environmental factors.

Despite the fact that the vast majority of neurodivergent children have one or both parents who are similarly affected? Why be 'open to' something that is simply nonsense? You may as well be open to magic spells instead of medicine.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/04/2024 22:35

GoodnightAdeline · 13/04/2024 22:18

I’m definitely open to ND being caused or inflated by environmental factors.

Screen time makes ADHD symptoms worse, it makes SPD symptoms a LOT worse. It’s not a secret that high sugar foods cause hyperactivity and that food affects mood and mental health via gut bacteria.

Oh and the sugar causes hyperactivity myth has been completely debunked.

Crack another book.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/04/2024 22:34

GoodnightAdeline · 13/04/2024 22:18

I’m definitely open to ND being caused or inflated by environmental factors.

Screen time makes ADHD symptoms worse, it makes SPD symptoms a LOT worse. It’s not a secret that high sugar foods cause hyperactivity and that food affects mood and mental health via gut bacteria.

Your reckons don't count for much. You just hand wave away the very clear genetic factors, or are you ignorant of them? Formal heritability is around 70-80% which is very high.

If I ate shit, did no exercise, sought my dopamine with games not work and didn't try at all, my symptoms might be worse. So might DD's. But shit food didn't cause my ADHD (hippy mum, no junk allowed, homemade 'ketchup' FFS) or DD's (BF, all natural weaning, my dad called me a sugar Nazi).

Crack a book.

GoodnightAdeline · 13/04/2024 22:18

I’m definitely open to ND being caused or inflated by environmental factors.

Screen time makes ADHD symptoms worse, it makes SPD symptoms a LOT worse. It’s not a secret that high sugar foods cause hyperactivity and that food affects mood and mental health via gut bacteria.

VeryScathingWimpod · 13/04/2024 22:17

Unabletomitigate · 12/04/2024 09:34

I think he might be on to something.

If anyone is interested check out Georgia Ede and Chris Palmer.

If you believe that drugs (chemical compounds that we ingest) can affect the brain, then surely the food we eat (chemical compounds we ingest) can affect the brain. Not every drug effects everyone the same, not every food effects everyone the same.

It's not going to have caused a developmental difference to my brain when I was born in the late 70s though really, is it? Not a vast amount of junk food on the go compared to now. 🙄

He's spouted some total crap, quite a lot of influencers/z list nobodies and also news outlets seem to like using ADHD headlines as click bait, never mind the actual people affected.

Wanks.

SmokeyWigwams · 13/04/2024 22:11

It's possible, but we really don't know enough to be sure. Neurodevelopmental disorders are normally a complex combination of genetics and environmental factors.

UndertheCedartree · 13/04/2024 22:08

AndSoFinally · 12/04/2024 13:19

I'm a psychiatrist.

He's not entirely wrong (although he's right for the wrong reasons)

Junk food, video games, screen time, and any other high reward/instant gratification type activity causes a huge dump of dopamine into the brain.

Over time the brain will start to down regulate and remove its dopamine receptors so it's not constantly over stimulated.

A lack of dopamine or the ability to detect it is essentially the root cause of ADHD. Except ADHD itself is probably neuro developmental rather than acquired.

It is perfectly possible to give yourself an ADHD type syndrome by doing these things for long periods, but we wouldn't necessarily think of it as ADHD as such.

It would very likely be reversible if you stopped doing all the high stimulus things, but extreme exposure during childhood may well mean the brain is irreversibly changed from what it would otherwise have looked like.

And as someone else said, these things would definitely make pre-existing ADHD worse

(Yes, I realise this is an incredibly over simplified version!)

That's the point I'm making we are born with our neuro diversities. You can't just 'catch' one, bad diet or not. And I'm assuming the professionals who diagnose us know the difference between 'an acquired ADHD type condition' and actual ADHD.

What Joe is talking about is how food can affect behaviour. And most people would be on board with that. But he is saying you can 'catch' a developmental disorder through food which is incorrect and frankly insulting.

Next he'll be saying my DC are autistic because they had the MMR vaccination.

HebburnPokemon · 13/04/2024 21:46

Most the kids in Britain must have ADHD then.

Beetlebumz · 13/04/2024 21:44

Ignorant git

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/04/2024 15:08

Just ignore it @LoveSandbanks

Like you I took loads of parenting classes, read everything, worked hard because DD with ADHD needed that. She was diagnosed very early because she has boy classic ADHD thankfully. Most girls struggle because they present so differently.

SEN parents can't win. DD now has so many coping strategies and masks so well at school that people don't believe she has ADHD. I am one of the 'parents who say their child has it because it's trendy'. If we hadn't worked so hard, and allowed her to be herself out of school, we'd be the 'lazy parents whose child is just disruptive and ADHD is an excuse'.

And on the laziness accusation that people love so much. My lovely friend said, when her fuckwad DH tried to give me parenting tips, "Terry works twice as hard as us for half the results". Her kid was a biddable thing. You'd put her down, she'd stay there. If she ran off, she's come back. DD was a wall-of-death, Tasmanian Devil. Never ever still. At that point the choices are:

  1. Constant criticism and 'no'
  2. Work harder than any parent works to distract, mould, humour, counsel, entertain, encourage, exercise and try to control with no criticism, because their rejection sensitivity coupled with their behaviour means you fail one of their needs all the time.
  3. Parent normally and their behaviour is unacceptable and you just live with the judgement.

It's not 'lazy'. 3's the level all the non-SEN parents meet. It's just for our children, that's woefully inadequate. And when we don't meet the requirements of number 2, we're arseholes. Mean teachers and other parents want to see 1. But that's where a lot of kids with ADHD end up with anxiety and depression. Constantly being told they are bad and wrong.

All the parents with kids with ADHD on this thread, thanks. Flowers Good job. Have a cup of tea. You earned it.

Flapearedknave · 13/04/2024 13:16

He can get in the bin and then fuck off some more.

Who the fuck does he think he is?