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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 09:24

My husband and I are having a debate and I would like to know who is wrong. I am posting in AIBU for traffic.

We are a family of 5.

3 working full time. 1 working part time and one at Sixth form.

How many of the following do a family like ours use.

Toilet rolls
Kitchen rolls
bottles of shower gel
Bottles of shampoo and conditioner
Fabric conditioner
Washing pods
Deodorant
Tooth paste
Gas and electric per month.

And any other items that you buy weekly/monthly.

Settle a debate and help me prove my Husband wrong.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 16:02

Evvyjb · 12/04/2024 15:50

No I'm sorry - they're @JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon is right!

The waste IS sickening. Imagine, if you will, someone standing by a stream and just repeatedly chucking plastic bottles in it.

Or looking at a water source and chucking used toilet tissue in it.

Or looking at a water source and throwing chemicals in it over and over again, multiple times, every day.

That is what you are doing. Not metaphorically. Literally.

Edited

What waste, we do not waste anything in the house, everything is recycled.

I love the fact that you have all jumped on me for my use of chemicals, have you heard of eco laundry fabric conditioner!

As I have said many times, I am reducing my washing habits, but most posters on here use the same shower gels, toilet rolls.

What do you use for your washing?

What car do you use, and please do not tell me to use a bike, my commute on the motorway would not be fun.

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Evvyjb · 12/04/2024 15:50

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:57

That's a reach disgusting and sickening. What must you think about people committing crimes.

I also think you should read the whole thread, I do not shower everyday twice a day, clothes washed after every wear is normal.

No I'm sorry - they're @JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon is right!

The waste IS sickening. Imagine, if you will, someone standing by a stream and just repeatedly chucking plastic bottles in it.

Or looking at a water source and chucking used toilet tissue in it.

Or looking at a water source and throwing chemicals in it over and over again, multiple times, every day.

That is what you are doing. Not metaphorically. Literally.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:57

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 12/04/2024 14:05

The waste on this thread is disgusting and sickening.

Five tissues for one nose blow, one toilet roll per person per day, towels washed each use when showering twice a day, clothes washed after each wear. No wonder the environment is a mess.

It is perfectly possible to be clean and hygienic whilst also being mindful of the impact on the environment.

That's a reach disgusting and sickening. What must you think about people committing crimes.

I also think you should read the whole thread, I do not shower everyday twice a day, clothes washed after every wear is normal.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:47

TayIor · 12/04/2024 14:43

Ok but I never said anything that to you for you to be standoffish. Anyways.

Really, ok.

I can't be bothered to quote you.

Where have I been rude to anyone?

I have said that I will stop doing so much washing and not wash towels after every use, it is just normal in my wider family to do so.

I take pride in my house being presentable, our clothes clean and smelling nice, ironed, this does not make me a monster, just as it does not make someone who does not wash everyday or have clean clothes on everyday a monster.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:46

DetOliviaBenson · 12/04/2024 14:41

We go through around 12-14 toilet rolls per week. OP do you have boys or girls? I think that's what makes the difference.

Family of 4 here, 1 works from home, 1 works nights, 1 in college other in sixth form. (1 male, 3 females).

Don't use kitchen roll.
Around 4 bottles of shower gel every 2-3 weeks. (We have our own individual bottles).
Shampoo & Conditioner - 1 of each every 1-2 weeks.
Fabric conditioner - 1 every 2 weeks.
Washing powder (I prefer powder over pods, it lasts longer). - 1 medium box every 2-3 weeks.
Deodorant - 1 per person every 2 weeks.
Toothpaste - we each have our own tubes ( different preferences) so they usually last us around 2 months.
Gas and electric - around £95 per month for both.

Thank you for your nice post.

We have 2 girls and a boy, the girls have long hair, and my son plays Rugby so trains twice a week and then plays a game on a Saturday, he plays cricket in the summer so this adds to the washing.

So your use of products is the same amount as mine really, expect the Gas and Elec. I have only told people what we use in toilet rolls and tissues yet everyone is jumping on me.

I have said that I will reduce my washing starting from today.

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TayIor · 12/04/2024 14:43

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:39

I am being as standoffish and dismissive as they are of me, I have been called names, told I have OCD, ruining the planet, my house must stink because I have a different opinion, it works both ways.

People have also assumed and made judgements on what they think when I have not even said how much shower gel we use.

I have also stated that I will reduce my washing, but hey some just have to keep on and on, with I only do 2 loads a week, which I think is not enough, but each to our own.

Ok but I never said anything that to you for you to be standoffish. Anyways.

DetOliviaBenson · 12/04/2024 14:41

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:02

12 per month, we go through 12 a week! My husband thinks this is excessive.
We go through 2 bottles of fabric conditioner a week, and a box of scent boasters.
Washing powder is at least 2 84 washes a month.
Deodorant is 2 cans each per month.
Everyone is proving my husband right.......

We go through around 12-14 toilet rolls per week. OP do you have boys or girls? I think that's what makes the difference.

Family of 4 here, 1 works from home, 1 works nights, 1 in college other in sixth form. (1 male, 3 females).

Don't use kitchen roll.
Around 4 bottles of shower gel every 2-3 weeks. (We have our own individual bottles).
Shampoo & Conditioner - 1 of each every 1-2 weeks.
Fabric conditioner - 1 every 2 weeks.
Washing powder (I prefer powder over pods, it lasts longer). - 1 medium box every 2-3 weeks.
Deodorant - 1 per person every 2 weeks.
Toothpaste - we each have our own tubes ( different preferences) so they usually last us around 2 months.
Gas and electric - around £95 per month for both.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 14:39

TayIor · 12/04/2024 14:27

You are really standoffish and dismissive in your replies, not really sure why you posted as you don't seem to be able to take what people are saying.

I wouldnt wash jeans after 1 wear, or cardigans, jumpers, tracksuits, skirts, some trousers. Underwear, tshirts, dresses yeah, but the rest is wasteful. They are not exactly dirty after 1 wash you don't have toddlers.

I am being as standoffish and dismissive as they are of me, I have been called names, told I have OCD, ruining the planet, my house must stink because I have a different opinion, it works both ways.

People have also assumed and made judgements on what they think when I have not even said how much shower gel we use.

I have also stated that I will reduce my washing, but hey some just have to keep on and on, with I only do 2 loads a week, which I think is not enough, but each to our own.

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TayIor · 12/04/2024 14:27

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:49

I have said that we only wash bedding twice a week at the height of SUMMER.

I have also said that I can see that I am wrong to do so much washing.

Please tell me what does not need to be washed after wearing something for 10 hours a day.

I work full time and have lots of hobbies, the washing machine washing the clothes, I am not scrubbing them by hand.

You are really standoffish and dismissive in your replies, not really sure why you posted as you don't seem to be able to take what people are saying.

I wouldnt wash jeans after 1 wear, or cardigans, jumpers, tracksuits, skirts, some trousers. Underwear, tshirts, dresses yeah, but the rest is wasteful. They are not exactly dirty after 1 wash you don't have toddlers.

Onelifeonly · 12/04/2024 14:26

Clothes that don't need washing daily - trousers, jumpers, hoodies, cardigans, skirts, bras. For a day at home, I'd re-wear a top unless I'd sweated into it or dropped something on it. My dcs own massive over-sized hoodies. The washing machine would be constantly on the go if they were washed everytime they were worn (barely any contact with naked skin!)

I don't use fabric conditioner and hate chemically made scented items. My dc spray themselves with all sorts but it's way over the top and at their own expense. A large bottle of shower gel lasts several weeks - it's not something I buy every week. You only need a tiny amount if you use a sponge or scrunchy. None of us wash our hair daily - every few days works fine.

Our fuel bill is through the roof but that's partly as we have a poorly insulated 3 storey end of terrace Edwardian house and also because my DH works from home and our DC are on appliances a lot - one makes money in this way.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 12/04/2024 14:21

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:49

I have said that we only wash bedding twice a week at the height of SUMMER.

I have also said that I can see that I am wrong to do so much washing.

Please tell me what does not need to be washed after wearing something for 10 hours a day.

I work full time and have lots of hobbies, the washing machine washing the clothes, I am not scrubbing them by hand.

I wouldn’t wash jeans/ trousers or jumpers after wearing them all day unless I had spilled something on them or been doing something very dirty. I wash underwear, socks and T-shirts after one wear but a jumper is fine to be re-worn a few times!

You say well if you’re doing the underwear etc anyway why not just throw in the jeans and jumpers etc? Well because then instead of doing 2 loads you can just do 1! So if you only have a half load of underwear/ T-shirts etc instead of throwing in things that could be re-worn don’t put the load on yet and wait until you have more things that actually need washing to add. You could easily reduce your loads of washing by at least a third if you re-wore things for a second day.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 12/04/2024 14:05

The waste on this thread is disgusting and sickening.

Five tissues for one nose blow, one toilet roll per person per day, towels washed each use when showering twice a day, clothes washed after each wear. No wonder the environment is a mess.

It is perfectly possible to be clean and hygienic whilst also being mindful of the impact on the environment.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:52

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 12/04/2024 13:49

I'm not sure why you started this thread, you seem very defensive, I also find it unbelievable that just by cutting down towel washing you will reduce to 2 loads per person per week.

You've also not considered what I said about over using products, if you have a 3 minute shower with a 10p sized blob of shower gel (as I did this morning, availed myself of gym showers last night) you wouldn't be getting through it at the rate you are.

If you overuse laundry products because you like the smell, are you also over using shampoo, handsoap, shower gel, air freshener etc, reduction of all of these things will reduce your spend. Equally 12 toilet rolls a week is crazy, we get through a couple so even doubling that it would only be 4 , 5 to be generous. Again are you excessive in using toilet paper because it links to your beliefs around cleanliness? These attitudes will have also been passed on to your children making them high consumers too.

Of course it will not reduce to 2 loads of washing per person a week, but it will reduce my washing lots. it may reduce it by 2-3 loads a day.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:49

TayIor · 12/04/2024 13:44

Family of 4 similar ages, we do 1 wash per day!! 25 washes a week, I suspect you all have too many clothes. Also, every item doesn't need washing immediately after 1 wear! Bedding twice a week wow! Do you have time for anything else in life other than the laundry??

I have said that we only wash bedding twice a week at the height of SUMMER.

I have also said that I can see that I am wrong to do so much washing.

Please tell me what does not need to be washed after wearing something for 10 hours a day.

I work full time and have lots of hobbies, the washing machine washing the clothes, I am not scrubbing them by hand.

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MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 12/04/2024 13:49

I'm not sure why you started this thread, you seem very defensive, I also find it unbelievable that just by cutting down towel washing you will reduce to 2 loads per person per week.

You've also not considered what I said about over using products, if you have a 3 minute shower with a 10p sized blob of shower gel (as I did this morning, availed myself of gym showers last night) you wouldn't be getting through it at the rate you are.

If you overuse laundry products because you like the smell, are you also over using shampoo, handsoap, shower gel, air freshener etc, reduction of all of these things will reduce your spend. Equally 12 toilet rolls a week is crazy, we get through a couple so even doubling that it would only be 4 , 5 to be generous. Again are you excessive in using toilet paper because it links to your beliefs around cleanliness? These attitudes will have also been passed on to your children making them high consumers too.

Wavywoo · 12/04/2024 13:49

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:32

No disabilities but I do at least 25 loads of washing a week, and probably over use the washing powder and I like the clothes to smell nice.

Everyone in the house wears clean clothes everyday, bedding is washed weekly or twice a week in the summer, we have 3 super king bed, and 2 king size.
Towels are washed after every use, and we all shower/bath daily or twice a day.

I use a box of colour washing powder and a box of bio for whites each month.

Edited

I respectfully suggest that you are doing an excessive volume of laundry. Things can be used and worn more than once. This could be a very easy budgeting win if you dial it down a bit.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:46

Evvyjb · 12/04/2024 13:39

Good lord.

We shower daily. Change bedding + towels once a week. Fresh shirt/top/underwear every day (and other things if smelly). But we also..

  • use maybe a loo roll a week between us (bum guns)
  • go through maybe a fabric conditioner bottle every 2 months
  • washing up liquid every 3 months
  • dishwasher on every other day
  • soap rather than shower gel
  • shampoo lasts at least 6 weeks (wash hair every 3/4 days)
  • refillable products wherever possible
  • no kitchen roll/single use household wipes

Our house is definitely clean, as are we. I'm APPALLED by your usage...

So there are 2 of week compared to 5 of us.

Hair washed everyday for my girls they go to our gym daily and horse ride.

I wash my hair every other day, unless going out.

My use of washing up liquid is probably the same as you every 6 weeks, dishwasher on daily.

As I have said my laundry will now be reduced,.

I am unsure of why you are APPALLED, what we use is on par with most posters.

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TayIor · 12/04/2024 13:44

Family of 4 similar ages, we do 1 wash per day!! 25 washes a week, I suspect you all have too many clothes. Also, every item doesn't need washing immediately after 1 wear! Bedding twice a week wow! Do you have time for anything else in life other than the laundry??

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:42

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 12/04/2024 13:26

I do what I thought was a lot of washing, 7/8 loads a week , 2 adults 1 child. DH and I both go to the gym 3/4 times a week, DS has school, a sport or activity with uniform every day after school barring one, and clean pyjamas every night.
Bedding never needs washing twice a week unless someone is ill/incontinent , towels do not need washing after every use. This is massively increasing your utility bills and spend on cleaning products. Showering twice a day is excessive too, I went to the gym last night, sorted and washed my hair, got up this morning and had a quick splash under the shower but no need to wash hair again.
I would imagine if you're over using washing powder you also over use shower gel, shampoo etc. I agree you have OCD traits and your rigidity to these responses further supports that.
You asked if you or your husband were correct, he is. The amount of products and energy you use is excessive.

I have now said countless times, I can see that I should reduce my amount of washing and we can wash the towels once a week, our bedding was only washed twice a week in the height of summer.

I have said that we sometimes shower twice a day, if needed not everyday! Yet you have had a shower twice in say 15 hours just like us on somedays.

So you do 7/8 loads of washing a week once I have cut down on the towels I will be washing the same amount as you per person.

My husband is the one that wants the heating kept on all day as this is more cost effective, as the temp does not drop in the house.

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RichardsGear · 12/04/2024 13:41

I think the OP is on a wind up, quite frankly.

Evvyjb · 12/04/2024 13:39

Good lord.

We shower daily. Change bedding + towels once a week. Fresh shirt/top/underwear every day (and other things if smelly). But we also..

  • use maybe a loo roll a week between us (bum guns)
  • go through maybe a fabric conditioner bottle every 2 months
  • washing up liquid every 3 months
  • dishwasher on every other day
  • soap rather than shower gel
  • shampoo lasts at least 6 weeks (wash hair every 3/4 days)
  • refillable products wherever possible
  • no kitchen roll/single use household wipes

Our house is definitely clean, as are we. I'm APPALLED by your usage...

RichardsGear · 12/04/2024 13:39

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:04

Do you not get joy from seeing your house look nice, your children's clothes ironed and clean.

As I have pointed out I think that I do, do too much washing and I will start washing the towels less, the bedding will be once a week, unless it is the height of summer (which I am doing now). Clothes will be the same, as I cant honestly see why you do not just throw everything in.

Well you've got other people making the house look nice and the clothes and bedding all ironed so it's easy to feel joyful. When you've got an ironing pile like the leaning tower of Pisa you'd start thinking about cutting down on laundry.

craigth162 · 12/04/2024 13:38

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:02

12 per month, we go through 12 a week! My husband thinks this is excessive.
We go through 2 bottles of fabric conditioner a week, and a box of scent boasters.
Washing powder is at least 2 84 washes a month.
Deodorant is 2 cans each per month.
Everyone is proving my husband right.......

170 washes a month seems excessive. Thats nearly 6 loads a day

GuttingHouse2024 · 12/04/2024 13:34

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:27

Where have a said that I am not doing my part, I know for a fact that me doing an online shop is better than someone going out in their diesel car to get their shopping.

My habits are usual expect my washing (which I have stated numerous times I will reduce) I am on a par with most other posters in our use of toilet roll, shower gel, shampoo.

Your use of the word shit really was not needed and believe me most people shower daily and use products.

Again there is your obsessive belief that any one saying you over consume or wash too much is unclean!!! It is so rude. Listen to yourself. Almost everyone is saying they also shower once a day and ARE clean but don’t feel need to use so much products. It’s not the personal care that’s the problem it’s the overuse of products! And I’m pretty sure as shit sure that the word shit is okay to use on MN.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 13:27

GuttingHouse2024 · 12/04/2024 13:21

Everyone plays their part. A large family with a hilltop house with cleaners, own gym, food deliveries, EV and soy candles plays their part as much as a single bloke in a bed sit. China has its part to play no one would deny that but presumably YOU cannot change China but you sure as shit can change your own habits and those of your children. Everyone can do their bit. Everyone.

Where have a said that I am not doing my part, I know for a fact that me doing an online shop is better than someone going out in their diesel car to get their shopping.

My habits are usual expect my washing (which I have stated numerous times I will reduce) I am on a par with most other posters in our use of toilet roll, shower gel, shampoo.

Your use of the word shit really was not needed and believe me most people shower daily and use products.

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