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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 09:24

My husband and I are having a debate and I would like to know who is wrong. I am posting in AIBU for traffic.

We are a family of 5.

3 working full time. 1 working part time and one at Sixth form.

How many of the following do a family like ours use.

Toilet rolls
Kitchen rolls
bottles of shower gel
Bottles of shampoo and conditioner
Fabric conditioner
Washing pods
Deodorant
Tooth paste
Gas and electric per month.

And any other items that you buy weekly/monthly.

Settle a debate and help me prove my Husband wrong.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 10:26

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 12:09

So everyone is saying that I wash the clothes too much, but everyone says that they would not was a jumper after every wash, but if you are going to wash your underwear, bra, socks, t-shirt why not just pop in your trousers and jumper, most jumpers are cotton so can be thrown into the washing machine.

My wool jumpers like my cashmere are hand washed, these would be used twice.

Well, I separate my washing a bit more than that but you are still washing too much.

If you separated your clothes and didn't throw clothes in too often there's enough of you to make up wash loads so no-one would run out but you'd do way less washing than you do now.

Try it for a month and check your bills. You'll be amazed and the planet will thank you

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 10:23

GuttingHouse2024 · 12/04/2024 12:03

Sorry I just read you do hang on dry days which is obviously good. I also do not mind spider penises in my washing overnight.

Do your children do any of the washing? It must be very time consuming and I wonder if they had to do their own if they’d rethink just chucking clean towels in the wash.

They don't need to rethink it

They just get told towels (unless dirty) get washed once a week

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 10:18

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 11:08

I feel that clothes that I have worn all day are not clean, my opinion yours are different.

Scent boaster only cost £5 a week so not excessive, if I was spending £100 a month that would be excessive.

You're not going to listen so this is pointless

What bothers me is that your children will think that this kind of excess is normal

And it's not.

shepherdsangeldelight · 13/04/2024 10:16

I suspect some of what OP experienced with her own parents at least is family background. Particularly if you were from a poorer background there was a big focus on "keeping up appearances" in terms of making sure your house was always clean and tidy and your children were also scrubbed and wearing clean, well presented clothes. An unspoken (or maybe spoken) view that you were a better person if you did these things (and to prevent others looking down on you).

I remember my mother being absolutely horrified when she found out my neighbour had given me some of her child's old (very good condition) school uniform. She was convinced that the neighbour would be looking down at me as someone who wasn't able to send their child to school in appropriately presentable clothes without "charity". Whereas both neighbour and I just saw it as good sense. She was similarly horrified when she found out I bathed my 2 children together when they were little and sometimes then used the water myself later - considering that sharing bath water to be a indicator that I was from a poorer quality household.

I suspect, OP, it's really worth you considering why you feel as you do about cleanliness.

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 10:16

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:40

I think that my environmental impact is balanced out by our Electric car and by the fact some people do a lot less washing than us.

That's an absolutely ridiculous argument

Some people are poor/more socially aware/sensible than us so it's all ok

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2024 10:14

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:32

No disabilities but I do at least 25 loads of washing a week, and probably over use the washing powder and I like the clothes to smell nice.

Everyone in the house wears clean clothes everyday, bedding is washed weekly or twice a week in the summer, we have 3 super king bed, and 2 king size.
Towels are washed after every use, and we all shower/bath daily or twice a day.

I use a box of colour washing powder and a box of bio for whites each month.

Edited

Well there's some of your answer

Clean clothes every day is bonkers. T-shirts yes, but skirts/trousers/dresses/knitwear can be aired and worn again later on.

Changing beds twice a week is also unnecessary unless excessive sweating.

You're using towels on clean bodies so also wasteful, so clean ones twice a day is madness and so environmentally wrong I don't know wear to start. And I assume you don't all do manual work?

And scent boosters are a con.

I actually think (and it's very unfair to think like this I know) that if you can afford to burn money and resources like this you could find more productive uses for your money

shepherdsangeldelight · 13/04/2024 10:07

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 06:13

I would also say not knowing about scent boasters is a good IQ test they are in every supermarket, and even advertised on MN.

Do you walk around with your eyes closed.

I've never seen them either.
Like, I suspect, most people, I only go in the laundry aisle when I run out of washing powder which is about once every 3 months. And I go straight into the aisle, pick up the washing powder and then leave the aisle - I don't peruse other products to see what's newly in.
And frankly, I don't care that much about washing beyond wanting clean clothes.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 09:47

jannier · 13/04/2024 09:28

Obviously if you all shower twice a day you would use more.....you can reduce it by using the nylon shower scrubs
Do you wash your hair too? If so that might strip the natural oils anyway so not ideal.

We don't shower twice everyday, I said sometimes its twice a day.

I have also said that we would reduce the amount of towels we wash, I have not put the towels in the washing machine this morning.

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jannier · 13/04/2024 09:28

Obviously if you all shower twice a day you would use more.....you can reduce it by using the nylon shower scrubs
Do you wash your hair too? If so that might strip the natural oils anyway so not ideal.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 07:29

Firefly1987 · 13/04/2024 04:25

I have OCD and when I was a kid I was like your daughter-counting, checking etc. but now it's all about washing hands and contamination (I do still like to keep things lined up but don't check things anymore) I also do a lot of laundry but I'm trying to cut down and I've never washed towels after each use (but would if I happened to drop it on the floor or stuff like that). I also waste products and use way too much soap and shampoo and spend too long in the shower excessively washing.

I don't feel like something bad will happen if I don't do these things or I'll get sick but I do things until they feel "right" to me. I think you sound similar maybe? So it could very well be you have OCD.

Thank you for your kind and considered post.

I may have OCD, and have been raised by my parents to be clean and tidy at all times, they and I would never wear clothes that have been previously worn, as that would be seen as dirty (in their eyes).

I get the "right" feel, but it could be that it is ingrained in me and I need to understand what could be excessive and what could be seen as prefect, in my eyes. I always have to be seen as the perfect host, when the kids were younger they would always have to be dressed nicely in what I would say was tasteful clothes. Reading that back I can see that I could have OCD.

It is certainly food for thought.

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InWalksBarberalla · 13/04/2024 07:25

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 06:13

I would also say not knowing about scent boasters is a good IQ test they are in every supermarket, and even advertised on MN.

Do you walk around with your eyes closed.

Well I'm not in the UK and I asked my DH who does all the grocery shopping and he hasn't seen them. But he doesn't hang out in the cleaning aisle of the supermarket any lomger than he needs to because of its horrendous smell.

MN advertising is targeted so clearly I'm not the target audience for unnecessary household chemicals.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 06:13

InWalksBarberalla · 13/04/2024 02:18

This thread is the first time I've heard of laundry scent boosters. I think they make a good IQ test.

I would also say not knowing about scent boasters is a good IQ test they are in every supermarket, and even advertised on MN.

Do you walk around with your eyes closed.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 13/04/2024 06:09

EmilyTheCriminal · 13/04/2024 04:45

It absolutely is not.

Your electric car took energy to make and ship, and the electricity you use also has to be produced somehow.

I know your post isn't about the environmental impact but don't try and kid yourself. You have a massive carbon footprint with all that laundry and over consumption.

That was a very tongue in check comment!

As I have said I will be reducing our washing and not washing towels so much or clothes.

My husband had no problem with the amount of laundry I was doing he was more concerned about how much shampoo, conditioner and shower gel, we were using and we seem to be on par with others with that usage.

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EmilyTheCriminal · 13/04/2024 04:45

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:40

I think that my environmental impact is balanced out by our Electric car and by the fact some people do a lot less washing than us.

It absolutely is not.

Your electric car took energy to make and ship, and the electricity you use also has to be produced somehow.

I know your post isn't about the environmental impact but don't try and kid yourself. You have a massive carbon footprint with all that laundry and over consumption.

Firefly1987 · 13/04/2024 04:25

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 12:37

I have always used to different washing powders, one for colours and one for whites, they sell them for colours and whites.

Every hotel I have stayed in you get fresh towels everyday.

I may have OCD, one daughter has been diagnosed but her OCD is making sure everything lines up, doing things in twos, maybe I do but I hate the thought of any of my family not being seen as clean. I get joy out of seeing a line full of washing, the bedding all crisp, ironed and fresh.

Edited

I have OCD and when I was a kid I was like your daughter-counting, checking etc. but now it's all about washing hands and contamination (I do still like to keep things lined up but don't check things anymore) I also do a lot of laundry but I'm trying to cut down and I've never washed towels after each use (but would if I happened to drop it on the floor or stuff like that). I also waste products and use way too much soap and shampoo and spend too long in the shower excessively washing.

I don't feel like something bad will happen if I don't do these things or I'll get sick but I do things until they feel "right" to me. I think you sound similar maybe? So it could very well be you have OCD.

Codlingmoths · 13/04/2024 03:47

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 12:37

I have always used to different washing powders, one for colours and one for whites, they sell them for colours and whites.

Every hotel I have stayed in you get fresh towels everyday.

I may have OCD, one daughter has been diagnosed but her OCD is making sure everything lines up, doing things in twos, maybe I do but I hate the thought of any of my family not being seen as clean. I get joy out of seeing a line full of washing, the bedding all crisp, ironed and fresh.

Edited

Doesn’t every hotel you stay in now have a note saying if you put this sign out we will change your towels but won’t you think of the environment? It feels like that’s been every single hotel for at least a decade now (and I have never put the sign out)

InWalksBarberalla · 13/04/2024 02:18

This thread is the first time I've heard of laundry scent boosters. I think they make a good IQ test.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 18:15

workworkwork123 · 12/04/2024 18:10

TheSpoonyNavyReader I'm sure there's many posters who use just as much or more but don't want to get jumped on for admitting so, but it is what it is. I recycle, by eco friendly where possible but if my DC need to wipe their backsides they need to use loo roll, I'm not going to ration out 1 square per wipe.

They would really leap on if they saw my weekly food shopping bill and list Blush

There's 4 of us here full time then DSC. My toddler is potty training so many accidents, wet bedding and the dog makes her fair share of mess too

I am not even going to share my shopping list or bill, it would make some spin.

I am glad that its just not me that does not give a flying about the about of toilet paper we use, it is also 100% recycled.

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workworkwork123 · 12/04/2024 18:10

TheSpoonyNavyReader I'm sure there's many posters who use just as much or more but don't want to get jumped on for admitting so, but it is what it is. I recycle, by eco friendly where possible but if my DC need to wipe their backsides they need to use loo roll, I'm not going to ration out 1 square per wipe.

They would really leap on if they saw my weekly food shopping bill and list Blush

There's 4 of us here full time then DSC. My toddler is potty training so many accidents, wet bedding and the dog makes her fair share of mess too

SpringOfContentment · 12/04/2024 17:15

I think you've heard the comments on washing towels, jumpers and trousers a little less often (FWIW, I agree with your bedding frequency - I love clean sheets, and will change them twice a week in summer when I can line dry).

We have 1 less adult than you:
Toilet rolls 4 a week (but the big, double rolls)
Kitchen rolls 1 a month
bottles of shower gel 2 a month (plus bar soap that lasts forever)
Bottles of shampoo and conditioner. Maybe one or 2 a month on average. I'm the only one who uses conditioner - one every 3 months.
Fabric conditioner None
Washing pods 28 a month
Deodorant A bottle lasts me about a month. The rest use sporadically (DH not at all - he truly doesn't need it)
Tooth paste I'm always bloody buying toothpaste. Maybe 2 tubes a week?
Gas and electric per month. Was 215. Just switched to Octopus tracker, and down to about 180.

DelphiniumBlue · 12/04/2024 16:43

I’m amazed at some of this! We’re currently 4 adults, shower gel lasts ages, we don’t use fabric conditioner, and I get a box of 30 Smol laundry capsules a month, and occasionally have to top that up. 2
dont use deodorant at all, I use a stick one that lasts for probably 2-3 months. Toothpaste lasts at least a month ( one in each of 2 bathrooms.
Toilet paper- we use a box of 48 about every 3 months.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 16:41

Alainlechat · 12/04/2024 16:37

Ok 2 adults 3 late teens with long hair

Toilet rolls 6 big ones but a lot more if they are the home bargains type
shampoo 1.5 bottles per week
conditioner maybe slightly less
10 washes per week
Not more than one toothpaste 125ml
Dishwasher 1-2 per day
No fabric conditioner due to eczema
Electric - loads Summer and Winter say 150 per month
Gas about 50 in Summer and a good 150/200 per month in winter.
No idea why so much electric..

We are not using the big toilet rolls yet as they do not fit onto our toilet roll holders so they will have to be changed and Waitrose still have the normal sized tubes.
Other than the washing, which I will change as I can see that I am doing too much, not that much different.

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Alainlechat · 12/04/2024 16:37

Ok 2 adults 3 late teens with long hair

Toilet rolls 6 big ones but a lot more if they are the home bargains type
shampoo 1.5 bottles per week
conditioner maybe slightly less
10 washes per week
Not more than one toothpaste 125ml
Dishwasher 1-2 per day
No fabric conditioner due to eczema
Electric - loads Summer and Winter say 150 per month
Gas about 50 in Summer and a good 150/200 per month in winter.
No idea why so much electric..

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 16:36

workworkwork123 · 12/04/2024 16:28

Toilet rolls 9-12 a week
Shower gel 2 a week minimum
Shampoo and condition 1 each a week
Fabric softener 1 large a week
Pods roughly 24 a week minimum (my machine is on 2-3 times a day minimum thanks to a potty training toddler)
Deodorant maybe 4 a month
Toothpaste 1 a week
Gas at the minute £50'a month
Electric is 190 a month

Oh my goodness you will be tarred with the same brush as me!! Sickening and disgusting!

Glad its not just me that uses what I do, how many are in your family?

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workworkwork123 · 12/04/2024 16:28

Toilet rolls 9-12 a week
Shower gel 2 a week minimum
Shampoo and condition 1 each a week
Fabric softener 1 large a week
Pods roughly 24 a week minimum (my machine is on 2-3 times a day minimum thanks to a potty training toddler)
Deodorant maybe 4 a month
Toothpaste 1 a week
Gas at the minute £50'a month
Electric is 190 a month