Who is being unreasonable?

Hmm @TheSpoonyNavyReader I've just noticed that you op says three full time at work, one part time work and one in sixth form.

Then in your reply to me you say two kids are at home most if the day. Sixth form is usually full time IME so that's not adding up. If one dc is studying part time and has a part time job they're not going to be home that often.

Anyway I am not virtue signalling gosh no. After all I drive a petrol car a lot. I'm just too stingy to use so much shower gel when soap is cheaper and flatly refuse to waste money on kitchen roll.

If you want ways to cut your consumption there are plenty of suggestions here. But I think you just want your ways reinforced and justified. I mean you do what you want for sure.

That's a huge amount £365 a week I'm sure there are savings you can make is there much wasted food? Do you only buy brands. Cleaning materials can be cut down with white Vinager ....there is a low scent version....it's antibacterial and combined with bicarb or on its own cleans most things...stains, glass, microwaves, air fryer, limescale, fabric softener it's endless.

When I was in India every supermarket sold toilet roll and most of the Middle classes had sit down toilets and toilet roll available in their homes. I’m also not sure what you mean about most people only having one ‘wearing cloth,’ even when I was staying in the middle of a slum and when I was staying in a tribal community in the middle of the jungle those I was living with and near had more than one outfit each.

I think that in the future, people will need to live much simpler lives. Not batshit at all. Can you imagine the environmental impact if all the Indian masses suddenly started consuming hundreds of thousands of loo rolls?

OP, I think you need something to break your routine. You are leading a luxury life, and your mind is in a fixed loop of thoughts about cleanliness. Some pps have suggested OCD. Maybe (and I mean this kindly) take a long trip to somewhere like India...not much loo roll around there, just people using their left hand and water to clean their bums. Poor people there have one wearing-cloth which they wash in the river and dry in the sun. You need to break free of your own thoughts...

We're just two adults so will obviously use less than a family with kids, but I'm amazed how much shampoo and conditioner most people here are getting through.

You only need a small amount. Unless every member of the family is washing their hair every single day, a standard bottle should last much longer than a week.

Our use of other things mentioned are comparable to most

Sorry @TheSpoonyNavyReader but I don't agree. Most people don't seem to be using the amount of toiletries you use.

Personally I change sheets weekly too but I shrink from judging those who don't.

Also I'm not sure what you wanted here - lots if ppl disagree with you but apparently they are wrong. 🙄

What?

I don't have these conversations with her. She's pretty sensible about these things. And I don't judge her. You put your methods and spending on here. Were you not expecting comments?
But she does have a nose for smells. and dirt.

And you must think the majority of people you come across are dirty.

@InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow Not wishing to derail the thread but there are two of us older people in a small two bed house and our gas/electric is 150 pounds a month! Need to lie down in a darkened room literally I think

Ah Ok I have read some of your posts now @TheSpoonyNavyReader and I apologise for my clearly unclean family (!) not getting through a 12 rolls of loo paper a week. It's not something I police for others tbh but speaking for myself, I am clean and do not smell.

The towels thing is bonkers - I wash ours (everyone has their own) once a week. Between showers and baths they are hung up to dry. I agree with others - no need to wash all clothes every wear - and if you cannot see how "top and underwear" is a lot less laundry than "top, underwear, jumper and trousers", esp when multiplied by five people, then I give up tbh.

I've never used conditioner or artificial scents myself as DD has bad eczema and anything like that flares it up. We still all smell lovely, I promise. I believe laundry conditioner is not good for your clothes long term anyway.

My deodorant is not roll on, it;'s a solid stick thing. Worth a try as it's a lot longer lasting by the sounds. We have more than one loo too but I don't see why that means more loo roll tbh. More loos to clean tho haha

Everyone in our house has their own shampoo, conditioner, body wash, but no one showers every day so they all last usually a month.

Hey OP not RTFT but we are a family of five adults tho one is not here very much:

Toilet rolls - about 3 a week
Kitchen rolls - never buy, use cloths
bottles of shower gel - use soap, buy that every couple of months max, shower gel bought at Christmas
Bottles of shampoo and conditioner - about one bottle of H&S a month
Fabric conditioner - ugh never use
Washing pods - use big box powders, about 6-7 washes a week so a box of 100 washes for about £13 lasts about 3 months +
Deodorant - ? every few months
Tooth paste - again, every few months
Gas and electric per month - not sure atm but more than it was

WOW at some of these posts. 2-3 loads of laundry a day? Two bottles of shampoo a week?

@TheSpoonyNavyReader you are doing 22 washes a week? You each use a can of deodorant in a fortnight? Maybe you need to make some swaps. My deodorant is a solid stick and it lasts a lot longer than a fortnight. And 12 loo rolls a week? Are you all at home all the time? even so - that's almost two a day!

Do you wear pyjamas? I shower before bed and wear pyjamas so if I sweat it’s not going on the bed clothes, I don’t wash my bedding weekly but it smells fine.

@TheSpoonyNavyReader

£19k ... depends on what it includes I suppose, but PP that's about what I spend on groceries/toiletries etc.

I see that….if you add a cup of soda crystals along with the recommended amount of powder, that’s a brilliant water softener