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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 09:24

My husband and I are having a debate and I would like to know who is wrong. I am posting in AIBU for traffic.

We are a family of 5.

3 working full time. 1 working part time and one at Sixth form.

How many of the following do a family like ours use.

Toilet rolls
Kitchen rolls
bottles of shower gel
Bottles of shampoo and conditioner
Fabric conditioner
Washing pods
Deodorant
Tooth paste
Gas and electric per month.

And any other items that you buy weekly/monthly.

Settle a debate and help me prove my Husband wrong.

OP posts:
Islandgirl68 · 16/04/2024 18:05

Wow I am with your husband, that is a lot. And a lot of washing. We are family of 4 all now adults. I do a lot of washing, but not as much as you. And have no idea really how much we use.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 16/04/2024 17:47

BeckiBoBecki · 16/04/2024 13:48

Half your shopping bill is wine????? Half????

You’re living in fantasy land. Washing a full set of clothes every day is mental. Washing towels every time you use them is mental. Washing your hair every day and showering twice a day is MENTAL unless you’re working in a coal mine.

Yes, you’re spending a fortune unnecessarily but it’s your money, and you can do what you want with it.

But its still MENTAL.

Read it again......

I dont and have never said I wash my hair everyday, washing a top, trousers, and underwear after every wash is not excessive and I said I sometimes shower twice a day depending how hot it is and what I have done.

Not mental at all.

OP posts:
BeckiBoBecki · 16/04/2024 13:48

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 11:44

My husband thinks are shopping bill is too high but when we went through the receipts over half the bill per week was for Wine (I am not willing to give that up) beers, and personal items like shower gel, shampoo etc.

My girls both have very long hair, that they wash everyday.

Half your shopping bill is wine????? Half????

You’re living in fantasy land. Washing a full set of clothes every day is mental. Washing towels every time you use them is mental. Washing your hair every day and showering twice a day is MENTAL unless you’re working in a coal mine.

Yes, you’re spending a fortune unnecessarily but it’s your money, and you can do what you want with it.

But its still MENTAL.

Robyn847 · 15/04/2024 23:54

You wash the hand towel in the downstairs toilet that only visitors use DAILY? I don't ever put that in the wash. I just wait until it grows legs and walks to the washer by itself. 🤣🤣

FarmGirl78 · 15/04/2024 23:50

@TheSpoonyNavyReader One thing I noticed was you said in one of your posts (which I can't find) was something along the lines of you can smell when people don't shower daily. How on earth do you know this? I think your upbringing and maybe OCD is telling you this when it's not actually true. Your yardstick for what's a normal level of 'clean' has become inaccurate because you're so used to smelling washing powder rather than 'clean'.

In addition to the (undiagnosed) OCD do you think perhaps you have hyperosmia? That's a massively OTT sensitivity to smells.

Kat200669 · 15/04/2024 22:13

I do a load of washing every day. In addition towels and bedding once a week so 11 (yikes)

Toilet roll I buy on subscription from amazon. 48 rolls I think it is, every 3 months but we are family of 4. 3 bathrooms but I always have at least 18/20 rolls in stock.

Fairy washing up liquid, lasts weeks as I use the dishwasher daily.

We all shower every day. We all use 2/3 cans of deodrant each except my youngest he's 10 so doesn't use as much. I go to the gym several times a week so I have gym kit most days. If I leave anyone's sport kits I worry it smells so I do sometimes put on 3/4 of a load.

Shower gel, 2 bottles a week

Shampoo they are all men/boys one lasts a month I think. Me, I wash my hair twice a week. It's almost at my bum so that's all it gets haha I buy salon shampoo which is more expensive since but last 3 months.

Laundry capsules I buy big packs.and Comfort, I pour in to the max!! I love the smell of it on clothes etc. So I do 'waste' money there but so does my partner. At least a bottle every 7-10 days

Kitchen roll last ages. But I get the giant ones from costco. Not sure how cost effective it is to be fair but usually split a box of stuff like that with my ex husband. Weird I know.... but may partner and him get on so we do tend to split giant costco shops every few months.

I'm sorry I forgot what else you asked for. 2 adults, a teen, a 10 year old and a dog here!

nutbrownhare15 · 15/04/2024 21:57

We do buy kitchen roll but probably only one or less a month as we mostly use washable cloths which go in with the wash every couple of days. That could work quite well for your household :). I don't use fabric conditioner or scent boosters. I try to minimise the use of chemicals at home where I can.

nutbrownhare15 · 15/04/2024 21:53

I think it's worth reflecting on how much of this is your parents' views and how much is yours. You clearly do care about the environment in terms of some of your choices. Can you explore options for insulation with an energy consultant, perhaps internally? I too would recommend soap bars. I use bars for shampoo and conditioner and deodorant as well and they last ages. I don't actually shower every day as I don't always have time in the mornings and I don't need to. I just wash my face and apply new deodorant. If you reduce the amounts of what you use somewhat and encourage the kids to do the same then you'll probably get the same result and use less product.

30yearoldvirgin · 15/04/2024 21:06

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:40

I think that my environmental impact is balanced out by our Electric car and by the fact some people do a lot less washing than us.

Ew. You come across so entitled and wasteful. I despise selfish people.

MrsB74 · 15/04/2024 18:16

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 12:21

Most families I know, shower everyday and wear clean clothes every single day.
I am astonished that people do not shower everyday, wear clean clothes everyday, I can also tell if someone has not had a shower or that they are not wearing clean clothes.

as for deodorants we seem to be at the same level as most on here, a tin of deodorants every 2 weeks is normal, also our toilet roll use is about the same.

Anyone that only uses a roll a week is not getting clean down there.

It’s not the daily showering - I would argue that most do and probably twice if exercising, it’s washing the towels every time that’s ridiculous and unnecessary (if everyone has their own towels, which you have said you do). Daily hair washing is not good for your hair either, but I can only manage every other day as I don’t like having dirty hair.

Most of my clothes do go in the wash after one use, especially tops.

I think you could cut back a bit.

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 18:06

nonumbersinthisname · 15/04/2024 12:41

Victoria came to the throne in 1837, so your massive stone farmhouse is not Victorian if it was built in 1821. Anyone who could afford to buy and run such a property would know it is Regency period.

It was extended in the Victorian period, what you like me to send a picture.

OP posts:
MrsB74 · 15/04/2024 18:01

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:32

No disabilities but I do at least 25 loads of washing a week, and probably over use the washing powder and I like the clothes to smell nice.

Everyone in the house wears clean clothes everyday, bedding is washed weekly or twice a week in the summer, we have 3 super king bed, and 2 king size.
Towels are washed after every use, and we all shower/bath daily or twice a day.

I use a box of colour washing powder and a box of bio for whites each month.

Edited

I’ll never understand washing towels after every use - so excessive and unnecessary in my opinion. We don’t have a tumble drier though, so would never have space to hang up any other washing!

Manthide · 15/04/2024 14:28

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 10:32

No disabilities but I do at least 25 loads of washing a week, and probably over use the washing powder and I like the clothes to smell nice.

Everyone in the house wears clean clothes everyday, bedding is washed weekly or twice a week in the summer, we have 3 super king bed, and 2 king size.
Towels are washed after every use, and we all shower/bath daily or twice a day.

I use a box of colour washing powder and a box of bio for whites each month.

Edited

Even when there were 6 of us at home- 2 eldest are married now with children - and the youngest was in cloth nappies I never did 25 washes a week. I don't consider myself dirty but I normally do about 4 washes a week with 4 of us at home and I can't stand fabric conditioner so save a fortune there.

Manthide · 15/04/2024 14:19

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 12/04/2024 09:58

Our electric is £170 per month that does not change throughout the year.

Our gas in the winter is £400 per month.

We are lucky that we can afford it but we were going through the household costs last night and it was eye opening, at what we spent.

Wow, we wouldn't be able to afford your energy bills! We live in a 3 bed semi - pay £95 a month for gas and electricity combined by direct debit. Just refunded £180 from our energy supplier as our credit balance was getting too big. (Family 3 adults and 1 teen)

clary · 15/04/2024 13:04

Stormyweathr · 15/04/2024 12:25

I have a ocd partner so toiletries I know are excessive just wanted to give a example as a lot of people are not being very nice to you and your use is probably normal for a family your size

I am waiting for the comments tbh ha ha

I’d be surprised if many ppl thought the op’s usage was usual. Especially as they spend about 2/3 of an average person’s take-home salary on groceries and toiletries. I’m pretty average and I certainly couldn’t afford a grocery bill of £19k a year.

Sorry your partner has OCD - that must be very challenging for both of you and certainly explains some of your usage. Not that any of this is anyone’s business really (except maybe for environmental considerations)

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 15/04/2024 12:50

Fuck me.

An electric car and the fact that Malcom in Southport only washes his towels once a fortnight does not make up for this environmental shitshow

Stormyweathr · 15/04/2024 12:46

DirectionToPerfection · 15/04/2024 12:38

washing powder - 1 x 64 wash bottle per month

If there's only two of you, how?

That's at least two loads of washing per day.

Are you changing your clothes multiple times a day? Doing lots of half loads? Using too much detergent?

I do one wash daily for the clothes we wear that day, my partner has a job which means he has dirty clothes everyday too and this washing style is purely because I have a illness that wouldn’t allow me to do big loads or have large amounts to be put away at once etc this just means I can manage it a bit better

I also do towels bedding etc once a week
if it’s a nice sunny day once a week I will wash dressing gowns, throw blankets or any jackets or coats that haven’t been done in a while

its just a way of me managing washing with a illness and also working full time

nonumbersinthisname · 15/04/2024 12:41

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 12:06

Thank you for the message.

We live in a Victorian (1821) 3 storey Listed farmhouse so can not have insulation in the walls, so the heat just leaves the house.
We have the nest APP and the water is on twice a day for 2 hours each and we can also use the Boast setting for more hot water if needed.

Victoria came to the throne in 1837, so your massive stone farmhouse is not Victorian if it was built in 1821. Anyone who could afford to buy and run such a property would know it is Regency period.

DirectionToPerfection · 15/04/2024 12:39

Thanks, but we do not need to cut costs, I was trying to see that the "average use of items" was.

Your husband clearly thinks you do.

DirectionToPerfection · 15/04/2024 12:38

washing powder - 1 x 64 wash bottle per month

If there's only two of you, how?

That's at least two loads of washing per day.

Are you changing your clothes multiple times a day? Doing lots of half loads? Using too much detergent?

Stormyweathr · 15/04/2024 12:25

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 12:12

Thanks, but we do not need to cut costs, I was trying to see that the "average use of items" was.

Looking at your use, we use less per person of toilet roll than you a week the other posters will be frothing at the mouth.

I have a ocd partner so toiletries I know are excessive just wanted to give a example as a lot of people are not being very nice to you and your use is probably normal for a family your size

I am waiting for the comments tbh ha ha

TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 12:12

Stormyweathr · 15/04/2024 09:43

Two of us and we use
1 toilet roll per day
1 shower gel per week
shampoo and conditioner last about 3 weeks
washing powder - 1 x 64 wash bottle per month
fabric softener - 1 per month

I do daily washing to keep it down so whatever we wear in a day gets washed on a quick economy wash every night

bedding once a week
towels - we use two towels each per week

a few suggestions to cut costs

  • you can buy shampoo bars instead of bottles now these may last you longer
  • replace your kitchen roll with reusable cloths
  • reuse towels even if it’s every other day
  • scent boosters - they are just a waste of money and damage your machine if you are using fabric conditioner your clothes will smell nice anyway so maybe avoid these as sometimes the smell of them is overbearing anyway
  • If you are using a lot of toilet roll maybe buy a better quality one and see if the cost balances out and if you use less of the more expensive ones
Edited

Thanks, but we do not need to cut costs, I was trying to see that the "average use of items" was.

Looking at your use, we use less per person of toilet roll than you a week the other posters will be frothing at the mouth.

OP posts:
TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 12:06

Divaprincess · 15/04/2024 09:07

Mine never gets higher than £400 for both in height of winter and I have a 3 storey 5 bed house. It's about £250 now. We have thermostat set to 19 , and hot water is on for 2 hours/ day that does 4 showers , 1 bath and what we need to washing hands/ washing up. the house is pretty well insulated so we can keep temperature fairly low. I would check your nest app or similar if you have one as changing out hot water settings saved us a fortune.

Thank you for the message.

We live in a Victorian (1821) 3 storey Listed farmhouse so can not have insulation in the walls, so the heat just leaves the house.
We have the nest APP and the water is on twice a day for 2 hours each and we can also use the Boast setting for more hot water if needed.

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 15/04/2024 12:01

BubziOwl · 15/04/2024 08:29

I can only assume OP has a BO problem. I have never met anyone who needs to do that much washing just to smell clean.

I do not have BO, as a shower daily but thanks.

The washing habit is one that I got from my Mum, I also wear clean clothes daily because I like them to be clean and ironed, I cant stand worn and creased clothes that smell musty.

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HolidayAtNight · 15/04/2024 10:21

@TheSpoonyNavyReader I haven't read all the posts but have you considered getting a water softener installed within your water system? I'm not sure how they work but someone I know has had it done and it makes a huge difference to how effectively products lather and clean, and makes rinsing easier. It might mean you felt things were clean for longer, and makes e.g. rinsing conditioner out of hair a lot quicker.