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Airbnb host check out demands - AIBU to ignore

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Senseonhorizons · 12/04/2024 08:17

Been staying in Airbnb for last 3 nights, out of many, many we have stayed in this is our worst experience. There are lots of positives about the place, however it is f'ing freezing. Non functional heating on one floor so bedrooms were 12 degrees and we were all so cold in the night and now are ill, may or may not be connected.

I did contact host re heating on arrival and was given a load of instructions that don't work.

I have now received list of tasks to do on check out, none mentioned in property listing. They include stripping off beds and taking all sheets and towels downstairs, emptying bins in kitchen and bathrooms and taking to bins half way down the lane.

I feel like f'off do it yourself. We paid enough for the place. I know people did it in covid with sheets etc, but there is absolutely no reason to now

AIBU to ignore their demands?

OP posts:
eastegg · 16/04/2024 19:37

Senseonhorizons · 12/04/2024 08:33

We have stayed in what feels like coming towards 100 AirBnBs over the years and never been asked to do this, and have never done so. I always make the bed, as in folding it nicely, leave the place clean and have lots of good reviews all saying how clean we left the place and welcome back anytime, so if they want to give me a bad one I wouldn't really care.

I asked for additional heaters, they did not respond to that. Said hopefully weather outside would warm up. I could not be arsed to argue and brought hot bottles and dressing gown!

I will leave 3 star review, couldn't do lower as some parts of it are lovely, but people should know about heating situation

Appreciate I’ve come late to this but the heating situation, and their response to it, was unacceptable and I would give them hell over that. Hope the weather will warm up? Cheeky effers.

But I would be an absolute angel over the other stuff so as to give your complaint more weight. With your 3 star review it sounds like you’ve got the right idea.

To pps, 12 degrees at night might be ok if it’s warmer during the day, but if the weather isn’t great and the heating isn’t working, you end up cold all the time you’re in the property. I don’t think that temperature is acceptable and warrants a complaint.

Librarybooker · 16/04/2024 19:36

Regarding mattress protectors, I can see the case for changing them fairly often and based on what condition they are in when properties are vacated. But at home, if you even bother with them, they surely only need changing about 4 times a year unless we are talking about small kids

NoisySnail · 16/04/2024 19:24

And floor crumbs and dust is the cleaning part of air bnbs. We pay a cleaning fee for that.

NoisySnail · 16/04/2024 19:08

Air bnbs can be more expensive than hotels. Hotels usually offer lots of deals below their normal room rate.
I agree people should not leave rubbish all round the place. But it is a business, you have to treat it emotionally like that, not like your own home.
I do not care what rules airbnbs have about cleaning or using the house as long as they are in the listings.

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 16/04/2024 18:11

judgementfail · 16/04/2024 09:52

For me there's a difference between not leaving a mess and cleaning.

I'm dismayed when I enter my Airbnb and find overflowing bins, rubbish and chunks of food on the floor, glasses and cups left everywhere, spills not dealt with etc. I think that's good manners not to leave that. Think, would I leave a friends house in that state. I feel personally slighted when I find my place like that. It's actually upsetting.

Floor crumbs, dust, a slightly sticky work surface, sand (we are next to the beach) some muddy footprints if it's been raining, toothpaste in the sink is all fine and part and parcel of living. I would expect to find that and it get taken care of as part of the cleaning fee

I hate to find my beds have been stripped. I don't ask and only 1 guests from nearly 100 stays have done it.

@judgementfail out of interest, do you provide the "breakfast" part of the AirBnB?

And do you have any ides why do most (IME) not provide it?

Thanks

BeachBeerBbq · 16/04/2024 18:08

felizdia · 16/04/2024 18:07

It’s not a hotel, it’s self catering…clue is in the name …so DIY of course you should strip the beds, empty the rubbish and leave the place how you found it. If you don’t want to be bothered book a hotel next time and pay 5 x the price!

The funny part is the hotels are NOT 5x airbnb anymore...

felizdia · 16/04/2024 18:07

It’s not a hotel, it’s self catering…clue is in the name …so DIY of course you should strip the beds, empty the rubbish and leave the place how you found it. If you don’t want to be bothered book a hotel next time and pay 5 x the price!

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 17:59

NoisySnail · 16/04/2024 17:51

@MarkWithaC A lunchbreak for one person is not enough time to give a place a proper clean. That is change the beds, put out clean towels, quick hoover and a very quick wipe clean window.

Well, I've no idea what the arrangement was – maybe she took a longer lunch than usual, maybe she had someone else coming to work with her. The place was certainly squeaky-clean when we arrived.
It's hardly the point anyway; my point was that a window that seems to be a bit long/end a bit late might do so for a good reason.

Danielle9891 · 16/04/2024 17:59

I thought everyone stripped the beds anyway. I even do it in hotels.

Mirabai · 16/04/2024 17:57

AnnieSnap · 16/04/2024 17:54

Stripping beds and taking out your own rubbish has been normal for decades in holiday lets. So yes, YABU!

RTT

AnnieSnap · 16/04/2024 17:54

Stripping beds and taking out your own rubbish has been normal for decades in holiday lets. So yes, YABU!

NoisySnail · 16/04/2024 17:51

@MarkWithaC A lunchbreak for one person is not enough time to give a place a proper clean. That is change the beds, put out clean towels, quick hoover and a very quick wipe clean window.

Thisismynewname23 · 16/04/2024 17:50

Senseonhorizons · 12/04/2024 08:17

Been staying in Airbnb for last 3 nights, out of many, many we have stayed in this is our worst experience. There are lots of positives about the place, however it is f'ing freezing. Non functional heating on one floor so bedrooms were 12 degrees and we were all so cold in the night and now are ill, may or may not be connected.

I did contact host re heating on arrival and was given a load of instructions that don't work.

I have now received list of tasks to do on check out, none mentioned in property listing. They include stripping off beds and taking all sheets and towels downstairs, emptying bins in kitchen and bathrooms and taking to bins half way down the lane.

I feel like f'off do it yourself. We paid enough for the place. I know people did it in covid with sheets etc, but there is absolutely no reason to now

AIBU to ignore their demands?

We always strip the beds, leave used towels and bedding together, tidy, empty bins and make sure it’s as tidy as we found it, it’s just basic good manners and consideration but we are tidy at home.

I think the whole attitude of we’ve paid enough… they mortgage, insurance, utilities will be costing a fortune, if you don’t like the price then don’t book but don’t leave it messy in retaliation.

NoisySnail · 16/04/2024 17:48

TigerTraveller · 15/04/2024 22:59

Beds and bins + leave property as you left it is normal in self-catering accommodation. Wipe down kitchen sides, bath and sink etc. That is not "cleaning" the property and takes no time at all. Get a hotel if you don't want to do this.

This is not normal. This is the sign of a cheeky owner who does not want to pay cleaners.

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 16:51

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 15:46

We were ‘fortunate’ that we happened to see a rat trying to get into the house - he lived in the BBQ so we had a strong case to say we were pissed off as we had photos - got a £500 refund but it was a lost holiday as we couldn’t relax! Apparently he is allowed cameras for security purposes…

Oh, that's shite.

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 15:46

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 15:29

Did you get a response and solution? The only reasonable thing would for the host to get rid of the cameras or not be allowed to use Airbnb any more.

We were ‘fortunate’ that we happened to see a rat trying to get into the house - he lived in the BBQ so we had a strong case to say we were pissed off as we had photos - got a £500 refund but it was a lost holiday as we couldn’t relax! Apparently he is allowed cameras for security purposes…

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 15:29

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 15:27

We raised it with air bnb ‘luxe’ as the cameras were invasive. We have teen girls that didn’t love them

Did you get a response and solution? The only reasonable thing would for the host to get rid of the cameras or not be allowed to use Airbnb any more.

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 15:27

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 15:22

I'm actually completely happy to water plants, although I prefer it if it's in the listing so I know in advance, and I always assume shoes aren't allowed in the property (I'm shoes-off at home and I don't feel relaxed if I've got them on indoors). I also stayed in one place with a wet room-style shower where they asked us to use a squeegee on the floor after showering. Fair enough.
But seven pages is very excessive, as is the special bags, how to wash individual items, coasters etc.

And the cameras Shock I hope you left a factually informative review and feedback.

We raised it with air bnb ‘luxe’ as the cameras were invasive. We have teen girls that didn’t love them

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 15:22

I'm actually completely happy to water plants, although I prefer it if it's in the listing so I know in advance, and I always assume shoes aren't allowed in the property (I'm shoes-off at home and I don't feel relaxed if I've got them on indoors). I also stayed in one place with a wet room-style shower where they asked us to use a squeegee on the floor after showering. Fair enough.
But seven pages is very excessive, as is the special bags, how to wash individual items, coasters etc.

And the cameras Shock I hope you left a factually informative review and feedback.

Polishedshoesalways · 16/04/2024 15:02

I once stayed somewhere with seven pages of instructions including - cleaning the glass shower surround after use with window wiper things, water plants (!) ridiculous list of recycling way beyond what we do at home, list of rules about shoe wearing (not allowed) bedding to be stripped put in special bags labelled coordination and carried down two flights of stairs to the front door 🤨each bed! There were five in total.
washing instructions for individual pieces of crockery and cutlery. Warnings that coasters must be used at all times everywhere or a fine will be issued or repairs bill for any damage whatever was greater. There were cameras everywhere outside but pointed towards the house which were creepy and made us feel ‘watched’ all of the time.

They provided beds but just with a cotton sheet! So if we wanted duvets we had to make them up ourselves. Used food in the freezer and cupboard 🤢

Dreadful experience!

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 12:37

Windysquall · 16/04/2024 11:49

I totally agree! Stayed at an airbnb property recently with those times. It was a 2 night break, cleaning fee £65 (it was a small chalet so wouldn’t have taken hours to clean). It actually wasn't that clean when we arrived - cobwebs on ceiling, sweet wrappers under bed etc.

I usually strip beds when I go away but this time I decided not to in protest! I did wipe surfaces and empty bins though, so wasn’t a full on protest!

I don't mind this (your own experience notwithstanding – that's obviously not acceptable).

The window gives cleaners and owners time to sort out any nasty surprises they might find. And I stayed somewhere a while ago where the host did her own post-stay cleaning, in her lunchbreak from work, so couldn't come to the flat until a certain time of day ie she needed until 3 or 4pm or whatever it was.

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 12:34

EmmaInScotland · 16/04/2024 12:09

I've always stripped beds in self catering, also means unused bedding doesn't have to be washed again, same as emptying bins & putting dishes in dishwasher. I don't do other tidying. However, I've not got kids, and there are only 2 of us, so far less hassle than with kids. On the plus, if you're the person after me, the cleaner will have time to clean more thoroughly. If they didn't say & especially if there are kids, then leaving is fine.

But, again, why should a cleaner in this scenario not have time to do a thorough job in the first place? It just sounds like owners are trying to minimise the cleaners' time spent in the place and therefore minimise what they pay them.

EmmaInScotland · 16/04/2024 12:09

I've always stripped beds in self catering, also means unused bedding doesn't have to be washed again, same as emptying bins & putting dishes in dishwasher. I don't do other tidying. However, I've not got kids, and there are only 2 of us, so far less hassle than with kids. On the plus, if you're the person after me, the cleaner will have time to clean more thoroughly. If they didn't say & especially if there are kids, then leaving is fine.

Windysquall · 16/04/2024 11:49

Lorrymum · 15/04/2024 19:58

Drives me nuts that rentals insist you leave by 10am but can't get in until 4pm. It leaves more than enough time to clean etc between clients.

I totally agree! Stayed at an airbnb property recently with those times. It was a 2 night break, cleaning fee £65 (it was a small chalet so wouldn’t have taken hours to clean). It actually wasn't that clean when we arrived - cobwebs on ceiling, sweet wrappers under bed etc.

I usually strip beds when I go away but this time I decided not to in protest! I did wipe surfaces and empty bins though, so wasn’t a full on protest!

MarkWithaC · 16/04/2024 11:38

Catza · 16/04/2024 09:01

Your post is contradictory. On one hand you say I SHOULD give precise instructions, on the other hand you say I should pay my cleaners extra and not expect the guests to do anything.
I don't expect the guests to do anything so there are no instructions for me to give. I just appreciate it when they do leave the place reasonable but if they don't, my cleaners will deal with it.

My comprehension is fine, although thank you for the snotty comment.
Your comprehension, though...

I said 'Airbnb owners'. I didn't say 'you'. For even more clarity, though, I'll reword and expand: I think everyone using Airbnb should have to put in their listing the exact details of what if any cleaning and tidying they expect guests to do.
Separately, I think it's a bit passive-aggressive of you – here I AM talking about you – to not give instructions, but then say you appreciate it if guests do some of the cleaning work themselves. And by inference that you prefer those guests to ones who haven't read your mind or don't think cleaning is part of the deal when you've paid for a holiday.

And if your cleaners sometimes don't have time to do a full deep clean because they have to do other cleaning tasks, then clearly you need to either make it very clear to guests what cleaning they should do, or allow your cleaners more time (and therefore pay them more) to do it all.

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