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Wedding rings and DD/DSD

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TheCheekyKob · 11/04/2024 23:56

I recently had my wedding/Engagement & eternity ring valued at a jewellers for insurance purposes.

A discussion happened after and I’m not sure if I’m being unreasonable.

I made a passing comment that it was nice they were valued at more then what we realised but it didn’t really matter as I wouldn’t ever sale them and plan to pass them down to our daughter anyway eventually.

DH was confused and presumed I would pass one to his DSD and I corrected him and said no, I planned to pass all 3 to our daughter as they are my rings. We had a minor ding dong about it in which he said he didn’t think it was fair and as he paid for them he should get to decide where they go after.

I completely disagree with this as yes he may have bought them but he gave them to me! They are the rings that signify our relationship and DSD would probably flog is straight away to get a few quid.

Just for background proposes DH and DSD mum were never married or engaged.

So should I be sharing the rings?

OP posts:
LuckyPeonies · 14/04/2024 23:51

Also, is OP’s stepdaughter’s mother going to give one of her rings to OP’s daughter? If not, why is OP expected to give one of her rings to her stepdaughter?

Atsocta · 14/04/2024 23:37

Agree with you, There your rings now, do want you want with your possessions… your husband is out of order!

Missmousie · 14/04/2024 23:34

My DH is also like this, I've lost count of the number of times I've had to tell him over 42 years of marriage that anything given as a gift ( especially jewellery) becomes the property of the recipient. I wouldn't dream of telling him to whom he should leave anything I've bought him such as watches etc., they are his to do with as he wishes .
I'm also like the OP I've no intention of going any time soon , so the boot may be on the other foot !

WrenNatsworthy · 14/04/2024 23:25

AliceMcK · 14/04/2024 23:19

I have, but I want them to have something personal from me.

Nothing wrong with that x

AliceMcK · 14/04/2024 23:19

WrenNatsworthy · 14/04/2024 23:12

Why don't you put the money in a savings account for them instead?
My DM died 2 years ago, with it all being shared between myself and my step-sister. My step-dad died the year before. No jewellery was specified in the will, as assets like that are generally only written down as a special addendum, unless there was an item of individual particular value. I had all the jewellery. I gave some to my Aunts and some to my Step-Sister but nobody wanted much. I need to sell some but every time I open the case where it all is I can't bear to.

Unless you get something like sovereigns, jewellery doesn't hold it's value.

I have, but I want them to have something personal from me.

WrenNatsworthy · 14/04/2024 23:12

AliceMcK · 14/04/2024 22:46

Agree with you op, your rings your decision and I would definitely pass to my DD not DSD. Although I did give my DSD all my jewellery from my Ex-H I didn’t want it, it wasn’t valuable but her and I get on well and I asked if she wanted it and she did. None of it shes be able to wear as the rings in particular were too small but she said it reminds her of me. I’m obviously not with her Dad any more and she never liked any of his other partners. I actually think she took it all just to piss her current stepmother off.

My own DDs will get jewellery from me, with the exception of a watch I’ve said is for my oldest, it belonged to my grandmother who she is named after. They can decide themselves who gets what. I’ve started to buy a new piece every couple of years to make sure they all get a roughly equal share.

Why don't you put the money in a savings account for them instead?
My DM died 2 years ago, with it all being shared between myself and my step-sister. My step-dad died the year before. No jewellery was specified in the will, as assets like that are generally only written down as a special addendum, unless there was an item of individual particular value. I had all the jewellery. I gave some to my Aunts and some to my Step-Sister but nobody wanted much. I need to sell some but every time I open the case where it all is I can't bear to.

Unless you get something like sovereigns, jewellery doesn't hold it's value.

TheCheekyKob · 14/04/2024 23:11

Mumofferal3 · 14/04/2024 22:50

The reason why is because OP regards her kids far more implrtant than DSD.

Her attitude stinks towards her. She has told her DH that his DD will get his watch. Knowig she has a son who will more likely wear hisa DF watch, the wedding ring of DF should go to DSD. But this won't happen.

Honestly 🙄 Iv already said DH made the choice to give his wedding ring to our son. THAT WAS HIS CHOICE AND NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.

He thought I’d give one of my rings to DSD, Iv said no and pointed out he has a watch that he can give to DSD and he is now happy with this.

and yes… stated the obvious there but of course my own children come first to me. They are my children and if I don’t put them first then who will? I care for DSD very much but I would be lying if I said I had a bond with her like I do my own daughter and son.
She has a mother, she doesn’t need me to pretend to be hers too.
Its DH who has to treat them all equally. I however am allowed to give my children my belongings if I want.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 14/04/2024 23:03

Mumofferal3 · 14/04/2024 22:50

The reason why is because OP regards her kids far more implrtant than DSD.

Her attitude stinks towards her. She has told her DH that his DD will get his watch. Knowig she has a son who will more likely wear hisa DF watch, the wedding ring of DF should go to DSD. But this won't happen.

Her own kids are more important to her than her stepchild, sure.

I imagine she spoke to him about it and he agreed, rather than ‘she told him’ - as if he’s not a grown ass man capable of making his own decision. I also imagine he wants his wedding ring to go to his son, given that it symbolises the marriage of his parents. The DSD isn’t more somehow more worthy of it than his son is.

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 14/04/2024 22:55

StormingNorman · 12/04/2024 00:02

Or perhaps suggest DH buys his daughter a ring in lieu of her mum having any rings to pass on?

yup it's totally reasonable for him to earmark something of equal value / significance for DSD but no he doesn't get to say who gets your rings.

Mumofferal3 · 14/04/2024 22:50

Livelovebehappy · 14/04/2024 19:40

Why should ds get dads ring over his other daughter? Just like you’ve decided who gets your rings, let your dh decide who gets his. Might be a man’s ring, but could be formed into another piece of jewellery for his daughter (your dsd), if he chooses. But it’s his decision anyway…not yours.

The reason why is because OP regards her kids far more implrtant than DSD.

Her attitude stinks towards her. She has told her DH that his DD will get his watch. Knowig she has a son who will more likely wear hisa DF watch, the wedding ring of DF should go to DSD. But this won't happen.

AliceMcK · 14/04/2024 22:46

Agree with you op, your rings your decision and I would definitely pass to my DD not DSD. Although I did give my DSD all my jewellery from my Ex-H I didn’t want it, it wasn’t valuable but her and I get on well and I asked if she wanted it and she did. None of it shes be able to wear as the rings in particular were too small but she said it reminds her of me. I’m obviously not with her Dad any more and she never liked any of his other partners. I actually think she took it all just to piss her current stepmother off.

My own DDs will get jewellery from me, with the exception of a watch I’ve said is for my oldest, it belonged to my grandmother who she is named after. They can decide themselves who gets what. I’ve started to buy a new piece every couple of years to make sure they all get a roughly equal share.

Nosygirl01 · 14/04/2024 22:07

I don’t think it would be fair to pass jewellery from you to your dsd because she will inherit from her own mum. Is your dh going to make her share with your daughter? No he isn’t. You daughter would lose part of her inheritance and your dsd would inherit twice.

WrenNatsworthy · 14/04/2024 22:03

TheCheekyKob · 12/04/2024 00:05

She would probably take the ring to sale. All 3 equal just under 8k according to the insurance documents so she could get a few pounds for one instead of keeping it for sentimental reasons.

Ex jewellery shop worker here.
An insurance valuation is no indication of what an item will fetch when sold.
It's always the highest valuation you can get, as in order to get these things replaced they may need to be hand made etc.

If your dsd was to take the ring to a shop to sell, she'd most likely get a price based on the metal price of the day, unless the jeweller was particularly looking to sell a secondhand ring of that type (.50 carat solitaire for example ). She'd get 1/4 of the current retail price of such a ring if she were lucky.
The only way she'd get anywhere near a decent amount for it was if she sold it privately.

All that said, if you have a close relationship with DSD and wanted to make her feel special, you could leave her a ring. If you have no relationship with her then why would you?

My Dad's wife has been weird with me my entire life and I wouldn't want a ring from her.

Thecastle1 · 14/04/2024 22:01

Some of the replies on this are insane lol

Despair1 · 14/04/2024 21:58

Declaring that the ring will be going to your daughter could be seen to undermine the part your husband's daughter is in your family unit. I think this needs to be discussed sensitively to minimise misunderstandings.

TheCheekyKob · 14/04/2024 21:52

Burpie · 14/04/2024 21:40

I thought you were laughing at the idea of him buying her a ring. If not this seems like the best solution so both his daughters get nice rings and one doesn't just get a man's watch.

No. I put the laughing emoji next to the sentence ‘il have one too while he’s at it’

To make it clear it’s said in jest. It’s a joke, a bit of humour chucked in considering this thread really isn’t that deep.

OP posts:
Houseinawood · 14/04/2024 21:50

TheCheekyKob · 12/04/2024 00:02

Yes. She’s alive although she is unmarried so no rings currently.

He leaves his rings and watches to his daughter and you to yours. I assume she will inherit off mum and dad and just daughter also you and her dad. That is how it works. Just no.

what’s your will like I wouldn’t be happy I’d want my share to go to my daughter - what happens if you die and have no will - he gets everything and can cut your daughter out.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 14/04/2024 21:42

I swear 90% of MN would fail the y6 reading SATS, what with their lack of reading ability, comprehension, lack of inference skills and making shit up.

SlebBB · 14/04/2024 21:42

They were gifted to you, yours to pass on as you wish.

Burpie · 14/04/2024 21:40

TheCheekyKob · 14/04/2024 21:35

Thought the laughing face emoji would of made it obvious. Forgot half of mumsnet don’t have a sense of humour or can’t take a joke. My bad.

I thought you were laughing at the idea of him buying her a ring. If not this seems like the best solution so both his daughters get nice rings and one doesn't just get a man's watch.

AnonoMisss · 14/04/2024 21:38

RightOnTheEdge · 12/04/2024 00:07

YANBU, and if he had said that remark to me about him paying for them so he gets to decide, I'd be chucking them back at him!

Agree that is absolutely disgusting

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 14/04/2024 21:37

Lassiata · 14/04/2024 19:11

Wow, really aggressive and unpleasant to XelaM there OP. It does look weird to keep saying "sale" instead of sell, I wondered if it was a regional thing. Hardly worth namecalling over is it.

I just assumed it was an expression - “take it to sale” as in “take it to a sale room”. I’d never heard it before, but it’s hardly difficult to work out.

TheCheekyKob · 14/04/2024 21:35

Burpie · 14/04/2024 21:23

Oh so the whole post is in jest? Or are we supposed to mind read which bits are?

Thought the laughing face emoji would of made it obvious. Forgot half of mumsnet don’t have a sense of humour or can’t take a joke. My bad.

OP posts:
HotChocolateNotCocoa · 14/04/2024 21:28

What young lady is likely to wear her dads watch? Seems unfair that she gets an heirloom that gets to sit in a box whilst DD gets to parade around in gems worth a lot more and that she can use.

“Parade around in gems”? 😆😆 It’s her mother’s wedding and engagement rings. She’s hardly Alexis Carrington!

Burpie · 14/04/2024 21:23

TheCheekyKob · 14/04/2024 21:17

That was said in jest. Lighten up.

Oh so the whole post is in jest? Or are we supposed to mind read which bits are?